Drive Image 2002 with slow transfer rates...

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Hello Rod,

now I have the latest 4 in 1 driver for my EPOX 8K3A-Board.

But I'm afraid of installing it.
I've read something about that it might happen to be necessasry to new
install the Windows.

Are you experianced in such things?

Michael
 
Hello Rod,

Now I have installed the latest 4 in 1 servicepack form epox.
But the result in sobering. No increase in speed.

Now I don't know what else could be done.

Best wishes,

Michael
 
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| | > In article <[email protected]>,
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| > >It was about putting the parameter /ide=ON after the PQDI command.
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| > /ide:yes worked for me with DI2002. Made a huge difference.
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| What is the correct syntax: "/ide=on" or "/ide:yes"
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| Or doesn't it matter?
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| Greetings,
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| Michael
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| > --
| > A. Top posters.
| > Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
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When I went through the same thing your going through the syntax for:

DI 2002: /ide=on

DI 5: /ide=yes

All my systems have had VIA chipsets with various versions of their infamous
4n1 drivers.

Without going through the whole thread again are you using compression and
the check disk for errors options? As I recall those made quite a
difference. Especially the check disk for errors option on large
partitions.

The number you see as the transfer rate is an average. Therefore if you do
a check for errors option before the transfer your "average" transfer speed
will be way down. This is because the time to do the error checking is
calculated into the average transfer speed.

As I recall my transfer "time" for about 6GB without compression and no
error checking was about 5 minutes. That's with 7200 RPM ATA100 HDDs.
 
Michael Westphal said:
What is the correct syntax: "/ide=on" or "/ide:yes"
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Either is supposed to work, but I can confirm that "/ide=yes" (not
"ide:yes", sorry) worked for me. At least, that's what I have written
on my DI2002 floppy.
 
you do mean I should download a newer driver for my system?
Yes.

What is "VIA 4 in 1 chipset"?
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Its the driver thats a 4 in 1 driver.
Is that what I have?
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You certainly have a VIA chipset motherboard.
They are rather notorious for quirky stuff with
the hard drive subsystem performance.
 
Now I have installed the latest 4 in 1 servicepack form epox.
But the result in sobering. No increase in speed.
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Now I don't know what else could be done.
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Ask PowerQuest. Its likely a known problem with
those VIA chipsets. They may have a fix for that problem.
 
You have a VIA chipset *spit*. It's possible that high-speed DMA
transfers won't happen until the (Windows) 4-in-1 drivers have loaded.
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Trouble is that they wont even be used when doing the imaging from
DOS and thats necessary for imaging the boot drive with DI 2002.
Because PQDI runs under DOS, it may be assuming a
'standard' IDE chipset when the /ide:yes parameter is
invoked, and if it doesn't recognise the chipset, doesn't
apply any speed-up tweaks to preserve data security.
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Or isnt even using DMA at all in that situation most likely.

Certainly worth asking powerquest about that problem.
 
Now I have installed the latest 4 in 1 servicepack form epox.
But the result in sobering. No increase in speed.
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My brain fart there. That wont help when imaging at the DOS level,
because those drivers wont be being used, they're Win drivers.

Try creating an image of the non boot partition at the
Win level, just to see if that does give a decent thruput.

If it does, you could have a very small bootable Win
partition that you boot when you want to image the main
Win partition. Clumsy, but it may give decent thruput.

I'd still ask PowerQuest because they may have
a patch for PQI or something just for that problem.
 
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| |
| >>> It was about putting the parameter /ide=ON after the PQDI command.
|
| >> /ide:yes worked for me with DI2002. Made a huge difference.
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| > What is the correct syntax: "/ide=on" or "/ide:yes"
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| > Or doesn't it matter?
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| It doesnt seem to matter, but you should try the one you havent used.


Not to belabor a point, but the syntax certainly did matter on my Soyo/VIA
chipset motherboard.

As you suggest, try both.
 
Hello Bishoop,


DI options have been set on high compression on both my friends and my
computer.

I don't know the option check disk for errors.
Is this in DI 2002?



best wishes,

Michael
 
| Hello Bishoop,
|
|
| DI options have been set on high compression on both my friends and my
| computer.
|
| I don't know the option check disk for errors.
| Is this in DI 2002?
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|
|
| best wishes,
|
| Michael
|

There are 3 options in DI2002 that will slow down the "average" transfer
speed or more correctly the total time to complete the image.

1. Check for the system errors
2. Verify disk writes
3. Verify image contents

You find these on the Options page where you set the compression level,
password, etc.

Not to say that these are bad options to have enabled, but if you're going
to compare results against other systems you have to take this into account.
 
There are 3 options in DI2002 that will slow down the "average" transfer
speed or more correctly the total time to complete the image.
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Thats your problem, he was clearly discussing the
transfer speed, not the total time to complete the image.
1. Check for the system errors
2. Verify disk writes
3. Verify image contents
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None of those affect the transfer rate that
he sees is radically different on the two PCs.
You find these on the Options page where
you set the compression level, password, etc.
Click to expand...
Not to say that these are bad options to have enabled, but if you're going
to compare results against other systems you have to take this into account.
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Not with the transfer rate.
 
With Norton Ghost and an average PC (say 2.0Ghz or so), and modern drives,
you should be able to get about 2000MB/minute (2GB/min). You'll get slightly
less with NTFS, slightly more with FAT32.

Keep the hard drives on seperate IDE cables. Always use Ghost's
PartitonToPartition or DiskToDisk options in order to maximize speed.
(Partition To Image is slower).

Once you've had 2Gb/min, 580MB/min will seem terrible.
 
Many thanks for making my juices going!

I habe appr. 210 MB/min.

And it seems terrible!

With best wishes!

Michael
 
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