DOS file manager that runs from a floppy?

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I wouldn't mind having a DOS file manager that handles long file
names and runs from a floppy. This would be useful when I have to
do work in DOS but can't remember the correct DOS commands.
Anybody know of such a thing?
 
I wouldn't mind having a DOS file manager that handles long file
names and runs from a floppy. This would be useful when I have to
do work in DOS but can't remember the correct DOS commands.
Anybody know of such a thing?
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Long file names are not available in DOS. Only Windows.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
I wouldn't mind having a DOS file manager that handles long file
Long file names are not available in DOS. Only Windows.
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I thought there were some DOS file managers that could handle long
file names.
 
Take a look here... http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/index.htm
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This is very interesting, especially for people who want a minimum win98
system, or shellers and other customization freaks.
Or if you want to learn how win9x works.

I have spent a couple of hours exploring the links the above url leads to.

DOS 7.10 is a LFN DOS system and win98 which can be used at will, with the
explorer from win95 if you like.

For MS-DOS 7.10 itself, about 2-5MB HD space is required (depending on the
install method).
For Mini-Windows 98 GUI, about 15MB HD space is required.
(In another link somebody cut it down to 7MB)
For Mini-Windows 3.1 GUI, about 3MB HD space is required.

I am not sure what to use this for.. maybe a super fast and super clean
win98 system, or a DOS system with win98 and win3 support.

By adding dll:s and other parts of a win98 installation it is possible to
create a completely customized version of win98, and include only the parts
you really want to use.

Add Litestep and Powerpro for a more complete customized system.
 
Bjorn Simonsen said:
For a short explanation, see
<http://google.com/groups?&as_umsgid=kk2dmv4le3t87kj53f8vpofrltgirpl91l@
4ax.com>

Links to LFN emulators here: <http://sta.c64.org/lfnemu.html>.
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Actually the statement made in the linked post is inaccurate. From RBI
list:
*************************************************************
INT 21 - MS-DOS 7.20 (Win98) - EXTENDED-LENGTH FILENAME OPERATIONS
AX = 43FFh
BP = 5053h ('PS')
CL = function
39h "mkdir" create directory
DS:DX -> ASCIZ pathname
56h rename file
DS:DX -> ASCIZ filename of existing file (no wildcards)
ES:DI -> ASCIZ new filename (no wildcards)
Return: CF clear if successful
AX destroyed
CF set on error
AX = error code (03h,05h) (see #01680 at AH=59h/BX=0000h)
Note: these functions are equivalent to INT 21/AH=39h and INT 21/AH=56h,
but with a maximum path length of 128 characters instead of 67;
unlike INT 21/AX=71xxh, these functions are available under bare
DOS and not just in a Windows DOS box
SeeAlso: AH=39h,AH=56h,AX=7139h,AX=7156h
*************************************************************

Available to any programmer who would like to make a program LFN capable
under MSDOS7.20. No TSR's required!
HK
 
LegMan said:
Take a look here... http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/index.htm
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Perhaps someone could elighten me on this. Is this software not pirated?
Even if you already own a copy of this version of DOS, you cannot
legally run it on more than one machine. I suppose creating a dual boot
system one Win'98 and the other DOS 7.10 might be okay, but I wouldn't
assume anything else to be legal.
HK
 
LegMan wrote in said:
Take a look here... http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/index.htm
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An alternative (AFAIK on the right side of legal) for those
with know-how and willing to experiment;
OpenDOS 7.01 <ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/OpenDOS.701>
with patches (LFN etc) from <http://www.drdosprojects.de/>.
Read latter page (and files) for info/how-to, known bugs etc.
See recent annoucment from author of drdos-projects in:
<http://google.com/groups?&[email protected]>

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Actually the statement made in the linked post is inaccurate. From RBI
list:
*************************************************************
INT 21 - MS-DOS 7.20 (Win98) - EXTENDED-LENGTH FILENAME OPERATIONS
AX = 43FFh
BP = 5053h ('PS')
CL = function
39h "mkdir" create directory
DS:DX -> ASCIZ pathname
56h rename file
DS:DX -> ASCIZ filename of existing file (no wildcards)
ES:DI -> ASCIZ new filename (no wildcards)
Return: CF clear if successful
AX destroyed
CF set on error
AX = error code (03h,05h) (see #01680 at AH=59h/BX=0000h)
Note: these functions are equivalent to INT 21/AH=39h and INT 21/AH=56h,
but with a maximum path length of 128 characters instead of 67;
unlike INT 21/AX=71xxh, these functions are available under bare
DOS and not just in a Windows DOS box
SeeAlso: AH=39h,AH=56h,AX=7139h,AX=7156h
*************************************************************

Available to any programmer who would like to make a program LFN capable
under MSDOS7.20. No TSR's required!
HK
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Have you tried it after booting up into DOS and not just a DOS window?
I've created DOS programs using interrupts such as the one you mention
and the functions only work in a DOS window. After booting into "true"
DOS on Win 9X/ME, all you can get are short files names, in my
experience.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
I thought there were some DOS file managers that could handle long
file names.
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There is DRDOS 7 which is a free 'new' DOS; it handles long filenames.It
works ok for me.

Dave
 
Have you tried it after booting up into DOS and not just a DOS window?
I've created DOS programs using interrupts such as the one you mention
and the functions only work in a DOS window. After booting into "true"
DOS on Win 9X/ME, all you can get are short files names, in my
experience.
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In DOS 7.2, I'm not completely sure which version of Windows this came
with, either Win'98 or Win'98SE this should work. I play around with it
a bit in under Win'98'SE, DOS boot, and as I recall they seemed to work
fine. It's been some time though. I've never had any problems with RBI
list, and it appears to be the standard by which other references are
measured. I would consider it interrupt programming gospel.
HK
 
H-Man said:
Perhaps someone could elighten me on this. Is this software not pirated?
Even if you already own a copy of this version of DOS, you cannot
legally run it on more than one machine. I suppose creating a dual boot
system one Win'98 and the other DOS 7.10 might be okay, but I wouldn't
assume anything else to be legal.
HK
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MSDOS 7.1 only came with Windows 98 ;-)
 
Long file names are not available in DOS. Only Windows.
For a short explanation, see
<http://google.com/groups?&[email protected]>

Links to LFN emulators here: <http://sta.c64.org/lfnemu.html>.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
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Thanks. I checked out these links, and the other links in this
thread, and have to admit, find them a bit bewildering. I don't
know much about DOS, which is why I was looking for a graphic shell.

What I need would come on a bootable floppy, would load the
required DOS files needed to run itself, then would load a nice
little graphic file manager program so that I could drag and drop
files, or copy them, without having to worry about screwing up
long file names. And it would display the long file names, making
it easy to know what was what. Would provide easy button access to
basic DOS functions.

This would be a very useful floppy.
 
Just as a matter of interest what "disk image program" s are
available ? Anyone got any recommendations please ?
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I had a diskimage extractor mentioned for the freeware wish list. I don't
know what happened to that request.
But there doesn't seem to be any one freeware related utilty to do that I'm
aware of.
But the program i've "used" is WinImage(shareware)
There are previous copies but I'm not sure if they are still shareware or
pirated.
http://www.doslife.com/ calls it abandon ware but....
 
As far as dealing with longfilenames in REAL DOS,
the little freeware package of tools that includes
LDIR.EXE (google for it) does indeed provide
a listing of programs with their longfilesnames out to
the right border, the left border being the 8.3
curtailings.
 
As far as dealing with longfilenames in REAL DOS,
the little freeware package of tools that includes
LDIR.EXE (google for it) does indeed provide
a listing of programs with their longfilesnames out to
the right border, the left border being the 8.3
curtailings.
 
John Fitzsimons wrote in said:
Just as a matter of interest what "disk image program" s are
available ? Anyone got any recommendations please ?
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EMT4Win <http://dvalot.free.fr/emtcopy.htm>
(not used this one my self, but seen others recommend it)

Floppy images:

FloppyImage <http://www.rundegren.com/software/floppyimage/>
(but it seems this site have exceeded its web quote...
try later)

For writing there is also:
NTRawWrite 1.0.1:
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntrawrite/>
RawWrite 0.7 for NT & 95
<http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm>

For Dos floppy stuff, have a look at:
<http://members.cox.net/dos/disk.htm#floppyutil>
(links may not be current)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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