Does NAV 2006 work with Vita?

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Well, we use Symantec for corporate (I'm more reluctant to use their word -
enterprise, as being humble is a rare nice quality to keep) products as
well, JFI.

But the decision is separated from my personal choice.

It's very interesting and also joyful to see people got into personal
attacks but obviously they have no ideas for the person at all. LOL

But for whatever you tried to correct, it couldn't make up for your earlier
false accusations for which if you could at least list some facts to back up
your statements, you won't be so upset now. :)

But I do apologize for my part for "assuming" you meant the "home" product,
LOL.

In our own environment, an expert with lots lots lots.... of experinces
usually won't make statement like that.

Have a good day. LOL




Robert Moir said:
xfile said:
Well, again.

As I already mentioned, it may not be the full story.

But I wonder how do you know if the company is equally supporting
other partners?

Do you have any inside story as the some kind of evidence at least I
could provide?

You don't need "inside stories". The information is available quite
publically. Sophos (another fairly major player in the AV market, though
one you might not have heard of as they deal with commercial / business
products more than home) have made public statements that essentially
confirms the version of the story I outlined.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Sophos_on_Symantecs_Vista_Complaints/1159472882

The fact that other compaines clearly HAVE managed to produce software
that runs on Vista is fairly self evident in and of itself. It's also odd
that the companies that appear most concerned about this issue are the
ones who have the biggest slices of the home market and hence the most to
lose if products like OneCare take off.
I use NIS and reckon it has many problems but no more than most
complimented Zone Alarm for which I purchased and used for a week and
then returned.

I'm no fan of ZA either.

[snip]
NIS surly is not best program but it does a fine job for me.

If it works for you, thats all that matters. I've always advised people to
find a solution that makes them feel happy.
Do you have any recent experience on using the software that you
discredited or it's just your assumption?

I've had a lot of experience with a lot of antivirus products over the
years, both the home versions of products and the 'enterprise' versions
for large business. Including Norton AV. Including McAfee. Including lots
of others. And yes, recent experience.
 
BTW, I do thank you for sharing the article, as said, like to learn from
different sources.

Just hope you did that earlier. LOL

Robert Moir said:
xfile said:
Well, again.

As I already mentioned, it may not be the full story.

But I wonder how do you know if the company is equally supporting
other partners?

Do you have any inside story as the some kind of evidence at least I
could provide?

You don't need "inside stories". The information is available quite
publically. Sophos (another fairly major player in the AV market, though
one you might not have heard of as they deal with commercial / business
products more than home) have made public statements that essentially
confirms the version of the story I outlined.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Sophos_on_Symantecs_Vista_Complaints/1159472882

The fact that other compaines clearly HAVE managed to produce software
that runs on Vista is fairly self evident in and of itself. It's also odd
that the companies that appear most concerned about this issue are the
ones who have the biggest slices of the home market and hence the most to
lose if products like OneCare take off.
I use NIS and reckon it has many problems but no more than most
complimented Zone Alarm for which I purchased and used for a week and
then returned.

I'm no fan of ZA either.

[snip]
NIS surly is not best program but it does a fine job for me.

If it works for you, thats all that matters. I've always advised people to
find a solution that makes them feel happy.
Do you have any recent experience on using the software that you
discredited or it's just your assumption?

I've had a lot of experience with a lot of antivirus products over the
years, both the home versions of products and the 'enterprise' versions
for large business. Including Norton AV. Including McAfee. Including lots
of others. And yes, recent experience.
 
xfile said:
In our own environment, an expert with lots lots lots.... of
experinces usually won't make statement like that.

Have a good day. LOL

I'm happy enough with my name and reputation in security / anti-malware.

When your company hires me to write a report and pays my consultation fees,
I'll start to worry about producing reports that are up to your standard. On
my own dime and in my own time, I'm not terribly worried about meeting
someone elses standards, or even my own 'at work' ones.

Incindentally, if we're talking about business now, then "it worked ok for
me" isn't much of a professional standard for defending a position either. I
notice you didn't rush to produce anything other than personal observations
in your reply.
 
xfile said:
Hi,

A simple search for "Vista" on Symantec's site could give you at least this:

Products purchased under our service plans, such as Norton Antivirus 2006
and Norton Antivirus 2007, are eligible for Microsoft® Windows Vista™
compatibility update subject to production release of the Windows Vista
operating system within the service period. Users will be informed via
LiveUpdate and within the website if compatibility updates are available.

The answer that you're looking for could be Yes or Not Yet.
Why not run LiveUpdate and/or check tech support for yourself since sources
of more reliable information are given?

Why would LU tell me a Vista update is available if I am not running Vista?
 
Quoted from your source:

"BetaNews approached Sophos, which is a Microsoft "Gold Partner," and a
member of a group that Symantec's Trollope characterized yesterday for the
AP as receiving privileged information first, at the expense of rivals.
(Symantec was a certified partner with Microsoft earlier this year, and that
relationship does not appear to have been officially terminated, despite
recent circumstances.)"

That's why I said: But I wonder how do you know if the company is equally
supporting other partners?

There is nothing wrong for "differential" treatments and it's a common
practice for a company having "lots" of partners, vendors, suppliers, or
customers.

The only question is the basis of differential treatments - but don't get me
wrong, I'm NOT saying MS has any wrongdoings here, I am just saying that's
something a company needs to consider for planning any differential
treatment programs.

Back to my point - there are many reasons for something to happen (in this
case, incompatibility of Symantec's products with Vista at this stage), and
we can only see some surfaced and don't know the rest.

It will be a haste conclusion to say which company is at fault - as you did.

Using myself as an example, I only question the two specific "practices"
(namely, WGAN and Vista EULA's transfer limitation) of this company, and did
I make any other general accusations or comments about the company or its
products or brought in anything irrelevant to the issue?

That is the attitude that I was referring to.

Finally, "it worked ok for me" - only referring to my own experiences with
regard of a personal product (NIS or NAV 2006 titled in the subject) which
may not apply to others. I'm sorry but I don't see anything wrong for
making a conservative statement in stead of a generalization.

FYI, I will not respond anything since it's off the topic.
 
One final note:

I should have also mentioned, even differential treatment is one of the
reasons, it may not be the ONLY reason and there might be other
possibilities and reasons, just we don't know yet.
 
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