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Thanks for replying, I've changed my setting back to advanced user. Maybe
(shooting in the dark) they have been able to collect more data from your
exact issue and since mine has been set for Basic user they aren't seeing my
issue. I'm glad yours is resolved. Are you fairly sure it was the last
update that did it? Have you been tweaking settings? The reason I ask, is
you may have unknowingly resolved it yourself (just thinking out loud).
Thanks again
Oh yeah, I was highlighting data to share, as usual holding and dragging
left mouse button, using Ctrl C to copy highlighted data, as right clicking
to copy doesn't work within Defender. Then I would right click inside post
reply form and I did have the paste option. Hope that made sense.
Kevin
(shooting in the dark) they have been able to collect more data from your
exact issue and since mine has been set for Basic user they aren't seeing my
issue. I'm glad yours is resolved. Are you fairly sure it was the last
update that did it? Have you been tweaking settings? The reason I ask, is
you may have unknowingly resolved it yourself (just thinking out loud).
Thanks again
Oh yeah, I was highlighting data to share, as usual holding and dragging
left mouse button, using Ctrl C to copy highlighted data, as right clicking
to copy doesn't work within Defender. Then I would right click inside post
reply form and I did have the paste option. Hope that made sense.
Kevin
Old Rebel said:Mine is clearly allowed and our Defenders appear to be identical. The McAfee
task handler files, however, seem to be different. I am not sure I know how
to paste info from software explorer, but mine is mcmnhdlr.exe
version 10.0.0.20 - 15,1552 bytes.
Allowed - Spynet voting not applicable.
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Kevin I said:Really? Looks like I'm solo now. Still showing not classified on mine.
I've tried forcing update from defender, went to windows updates, etc. says
I have latest. I've rebooted. I've pasted mine here, can you compare your
version to mine?
Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1051.0
Engine Version: 1.1.1303.0
Signature Version: 1.14.1361.6
File Name: mcmnhdlr.exe
Display Name: McAfee VirusScan
Description: McAfee VirusScan Command Handler
Publisher: McAfee, Inc.
Digitally Signed By: NOT SIGNED
File Type: Application
Startup Value: "c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcmnhdlr.exe" /checktask
File Path: c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcmnhdlr.exe
File Size: 143360 Bytes
File Version: 9, 1, 0, 10
Date Installed: 1/1/2005 5:13:15 PM
Startup Type: Registry: Local Machine
Location: Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Classification: Not yet classified
Ships With OS: No
SpyNet Voting: In Progress
You can see above "Not yet classified"
I'm beginning to wonder if this problem isn't unique to a few. Think of all
the folks out there that run Mcafee and have possibly installed Defender, and
there is only a couple of folks complaining. At this point if my scans
weren't completing successfully I would consider completely uninstalling both
and reinstalling just to see but I think I'll wait a little longer as your
message gives a glimmer of hope.
Kevin
Old Rebel said:I believe the question is now moot. With todays Defender updates, it appears
that the McAfee task handler is now ALLOWED software. My scheduled virus scan
ran without a hitch tonight, right after I noticed the change in
classification.
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:
Steve,
My ignorance showing, not sure what you mean by "notification of unknown
threats" I can't find tthat option in those specific words. I'm assuming it
has to do w/ Tools/General settings/Default Actions for high medium low.
Mine are all set to Signature Default. Am I on right track? Or way off base?
I'm set as a general user so I may be missing some options you're seeing.
I'm willing to experiment but you may need to be a little more descriptive w/
me. Thanks for your reply!
Kevin
:
Does the problem go away if you turn off notification of unknown threats?
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Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
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Maybe your right, Plun, about the overall situation. The claim is that
Vista
will be complete with One Care but will permit users to choose 3rd party
security applications. I guess we will have to wait to see if that really
works. But this one small issue between Defender and the McAfee task
scheduler seems easy enough to fix; it only requires that the specific
application be reclassified in Defender as known and permitted. Now I can
understand why some Norton users feel like Microsoft is tyring to
eliminate
the competition. Deliberate or not, it gives the appearance of
exclusivity.
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:
Hi
Well, this is a "mess" and everyone knows it.
Just wait and see, I believe that all security vendors
have all "tickets" between them and tries to figure out
how to solve it. Of course McAfee support engineers installs every
standard configuration with also WD installed and complain directly to
MS. WD is a "threat" for every security vendor and One Care.
I am rather sure that we will have to choose "One security package"
soon, there is no room for small vendors with special protection or
mixed protections from different vendors, just a mess.
One Care will be one, Symantec, TM and McAfee others, the rest will be
out if they don´t make complete stand alone packages.
So this is for sure a challenge and WD is one piece in the "puzzle".
But for me it´s really easy to see this development but maybe I´m
wrong ? (with Vista it´s an even more complicated situation how to
build an security application or standard application)
I don´t belive that any MVP can solve this situation..........
regards
plun
I have been going blind reading these newsgroups using IE6. I just came
back
using Firefox and I can finally see!!! Have the MVP's abandoned this
newsgroup? Apparently nobody wants to address the issue of conflicts
between
Defender and McAfee scheduler. If I have to uninstall one of them, if
will
be Defender!!!
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:
Well
Beta or not for IE7, I believe this only is a "laywer" challenge for
MS
Redmond to solve ie a small amount of "sleepy" websites with special
solutions but their laywers can go to Redmond and complain, "business
critical disturbance"
With One Care there is a totally different issue beacuse One Care is
"Intrusive"......
IMHO
regards
plun
Remember that IE7 is still in beta the same with windows live
onecare,
windows live safety center and windows defender. I have IE7 and the
only
issue is with McAfee but the engine is still running in the
background and
protecting my computer from viruses and malware.
:
I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many
problems with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to
install
them now. I'll do that when they are released as a final product -
if
they work. I notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I
suppose as soon as Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be
pushed
to upgrade. Some other new vulnerability may conveniently come
along to
help push us. Maybe I shoud replace all of Windows with something
else
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:
Hi
To get yourself a much better protection it´s really important to
upgrade to IE7..... it´s also a great browser !
Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a
lot of
much better solutions to avoid malware.
The problem I´ve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls
cure
it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but
that
is
only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie
handling.
If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out
but
now we have the problem with business critical applications and
laywers
running to Redmond with complaints........... or "don´t eat it"
problems
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx
regards
plun
I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between
Defender and
scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft
tell
folks to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious
that
those of us who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for
IE7 is
getting old. --
Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it!
:
If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an
issue
between McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows
Defender and I don't have any conflicts with McAfee and
Defender so
far
:
There have been several thread related to issues between
Defender and
McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to
Microsoft or any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to
resolve
the conflicts? We were asked to provide more information, and
we
did:
Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST
By: Tommy In:
microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note!
3/24/2006
7:46 PM PST
By: Old Rebel In:
microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
