Corrupted partition table

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, why?

Because it is. Novel concept for you no doubt.

An OS needs an "bootable drive"!

No it doesnt.

Please explain Your objections.

Plenty of boot managers can boot non bootable drives.

The NT/2K/XP family is quite happy to boot
a logical drive inside an extended partition.

This is HW matter!

Wrong, as always. Its actually a file system detail.

Boot-Flag is common knowledge!

Pity you mangled the story completely. Plenty of boot
managers can boot partitions that dont have a Boot-Flag.

No doubt, but only ONE drive can be selected!

Wrong, as always. Most modern bios allow you to specify a boot
order and the bios will go thru the list until it finds a bootable drive.
You are welcome to have more than one bootable drive in the system
and that happens all the time with a bootable CD in the OPTICAL DRIVE.

What should the Bios select on multiple choices?

What has been specified in the boot order list.

Only ONE can be valid! This is a NOGO!

Wrong, as always.

Rubbish. A NEW-Install reflects *no previous selections*!

Depends on what you mean by an reinstall. Many use
that term to refer to what MS calls an install in place.

NO never.

Fraid so,

This is only an OS/BIOS function! A HD never decides this!

I never said that the HD decides anything!!!

Only via BIOS You can select the bootable device!

Wrong again, a boot manager can allow the user to select what to boot.

There's even one that allows a system to
boot the CD when the bios cant do that.

And WHERE is Your opposition/statement?

See above.

And again! What ist Your opposition/statement?

Most obviously when the install cant even see the drive anymore.

How should we discuss, if You don't state any personal ideas?

I do that.

This is slang that I don't understand - sorry.

There isnt a single bit of slang in that particular sentence.

Please repeat in pure English.

That is pure english.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

OK Rod, but this has somewhat nothing to do with a HD problem!

You dont know that either if that was the
symptoms he saw when the system was dying.

Also there is a Bios option to disable a Floppy recognition.

Irrelevant to whether it may well be the symptoms of the system dying.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, then the PC is "dead"!

But not necessarily permanently. It may well be possible to
fix the problem that prevents the install from seeing the drive.

You will never be able to set up a system, when the HD will not be recognized by the
BIOS!

Wrong, as always. There are plenty of situations where the drive cannot
be seen by the bios but where the booted XP CD can see the drive.

Ok, then we will provide him with detailed infos what to do.

We already did, long before you even showed up.

And that is an absolutely classic example of the problem with your
stupid approach to quoting. You left out the first para in that set of
quotes and my comment made no sense without that.

 

[Horst Franke]

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

Plenty of boot managers can boot non bootable drives.

Hi Rod, now I see what You mean.
You mixed up bootable devices against bootable partitions!
What boot managers can do is a totally different thing.

Wrong, as always. Most modern bios allow you to specify a boot
order and the bios will go thru the list until it finds a bootable
drive.

ACK. But these drives must have the "bootable flag".
BIOS will never boot any other partition -
like a boot manager might do.

Depends on what you mean by an reinstall. Many use
that term to refer to what MS calls an install in place.

Sorry, I reflected NEW, which means "first" format the C-drive.
Thus there will be no other other partitions on the BOOT drive.

Please differentiate between boot devices and boot manager
selectable partitions. That's the difference I mean.
Horst

 

[Horst Franke]

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Hi Rod, yes it lookes like he saw that.
But a floppy is somewhat different to a HD drive.

You dont know that either if that was the
symptoms he saw when the system was dying.

ACK. But the interface is very different = Floppy NE hard drive.
Even the busses/IRQ are different.
Horst

 

[Horst Franke]

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

But not necessarily permanently. It may well be possible to
fix the problem that prevents the install from seeing the drive.

Hi Rod, ACK but not for the bootable device seen by BIOS.

Wrong, as always. There are plenty of situations where the drive
cannot be seen by the bios but where the booted XP CD can see the
drive.

Sorry, but I learned this is only true for "other" drives.
But the bootable drive must always have to be seen by the BIOS.

[Use of other tools]

We already did, long before you even showed up.

Ok and why did this question then reappear?

And that is an absolutely classic example of the problem with your
stupid approach to quoting. You left out the first para in that set of
quotes and my comment made no sense without that.

Sorry that's true.
But I answer only current postings - not any somewheres.
If the question on extra tools arose again, then what?
Please do not expect me to have read all others.
This is valid only for a support man but not for a by time reader.
Horst

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, now I see what You mean.

No you dont.

You mixed up bootable devices against bootable partitions!

Wrong, as always.

What boot managers can do is a totally different thing.

Wrong, as always.

ACK. But these drives must have the "bootable flag".

Wrong, as always.

BIOS will never boot any other partition -
like a boot manager might do.

Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim that you
carefully deleted from the quoting and I have restored.

You never said a word about the BIOS.

Sorry, I reflected NEW, which means "first" format the C-drive.

No it doesnt.

Thus there will be no other other partitions on the BOOT drive.

Wrong, as always.

Please differentiate between boot devices and boot manager selectable partitions.

Go and **** yourself.

That's the difference I mean.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, yes it lookes like he saw that.
But a floppy is somewhat different to a HD drive.

Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim.

ACK. But the interface is very different = Floppy NE hard drive.

Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim.

Even the busses/IRQ are different.

Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, ACK but not for the bootable device seen by BIOS.

Wrong, as always.

Sorry, but I learned this is only true for "other" drives.
But the bootable drive must always have to be seen by the BIOS.

Wrong, as always. Its possible to have the install install
NTLDR etc on a drive that can be seen by the BIOS and
have that boot a drive that cannot be seen by the BIOS.

[Use of other tools]

We already did, long before you even showed up.

Ok and why did this question then reappear?

The thread continued after you showed up.

Sorry that's true.
But I answer only current postings - not any somewheres.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

You aint called Horstshit for nothing.

If the question on extra tools arose again,

It didnt.

then what?

You get to make a spectacular fool of yourself all over again.

Please do not expect me to have read all others.

You shouldnt have commented unless you had done,
and that is another reason for including the context in
the quoting, so fools like you wont ignore the context.

This is valid only for a support man but not for a by time reader.

Repeat in pure english.

 

[Plenn]

While you two appear to be enjoying yourselves i'd just like to add that i
took the HDD to a professional shop to get a quote and they ran some tests
and said they couldn't recover my data from it cheaply. They recommended a
hardcore corporate data recovery place that charges upwards of $1000 or
more. I threw the disk away.

 

[Rod Speed]

While you two appear to be enjoying yourselves i'd just like to add that i took the HDD
to a professional shop to get a quote and they ran some tests and said they couldn't
recover my data from it cheaply. They recommended a hardcore corporate data recovery
place that charges upwards of $1000 or more.

Doesnt mean that they got it right, thats unlikely.

I threw the disk away.

Mad, you had nothing to lose if you were going to do that.

 

[Horst Franke]

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Wrong, as always.

Hi Rod, Do You also have another statement
and append/reflect to the pure matter?
Horst

 

[Horst Franke]

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Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim.

Hi Rod, again.
Is this the only wording You know ;-(
Horst

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, Do You also have another statement
and append/reflect to the pure matter?

Yep, I sometimes tell people to shove their head up a dead bear's arse.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, again.
Is this the only wording You know ;-(

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[Horst Franke]

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

Yep, I sometimes tell people to shove their head up a dead bear's
arse.

Hi Rod, thanks for Your "qualified" statement.
Will check with "abuse/newsmaster" of Your server.
Horst

 

[Horst Franke]

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Sorry, but You disqualified Yourself as upgrowing revolving kid.
Do't know the US expression, but I think You'll understand.
If You made it to a highschool then try to make harder.
Otherwise You will be soon at a very down level.
Your current statement do not qualifiy You for foreign exchange.

Horst

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, thanks for Your "qualified" statement.

Will check with "abuse/newsmaster" of Your server.

He'll just tell you to go and **** yourself.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Sorry, but You disqualified Yourself as upgrowing revolving kid.

Repeat in pure english.

Do't know the US expression,

Or anything else at all, either.

but I think You'll understand.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

If You made it to a highschool then try to make harder.

Made it WAY past that thanks, child.

Otherwise You will be soon at a very down level.

Repeat in pure english.

Your current statement do not qualifiy You for foreign exchange.

Wrong, as always.

 

[Horst Franke]

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:
Hi Rod, You even are not able to understand my last statement? ;-(

Or anything else at all, either.
Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

Sorry no more discussions possible, as You tell You don't
understand English expressions or even try to understand!

Made it WAY past that thanks, child.
Repeat in pure english.

YOU will never be qualified for foreign studies!
Your personal knowledge level needs very much updates.
At the moment You are NOT QUALIFIED to leave the states!

First of all, I saw more qualifications by You, but know You
dissappointed me by presenting NON qualified statements!

And even Your "Wrong, as always" will be of no help.
Sorry You try to overcome Your non knowledge by stating
"knowledgable" phrases but having not any based idea.
I would NEVER accept You as a foreign US student.
Your basic knowledge has too much deficites.
Please try to complete Your knowledge and then try it again
in about four years. Currently You are "not applicable".
Horst