Copy info from IDE drive to SATA drive

Zel Dolinsky · Jun 19, 2006

Hello:

I have a new machine running XP and it has an 80GB SATA drive. I want to
take my old drive 10GB which has an IDE connection out of my old computer
98SE and put it in new machine and copy files from the IDE drive to the SATA
drive. Can this be done per SATA ---> IDE connections in the new machine
and is there anything else of importance to know in doing this. Thank you
very much for your help.

Rod Speed · Jun 19, 2006

Zel Dolinsky said:
I have a new machine running XP and it has an 80GB SATA
drive. I want to take my old drive 10GB which has an IDE
connection out of my old computer 98SE and put it in new
machine and copy files from the IDE drive to the SATA drive.
Can this be done per SATA ---> IDE connections in the new machine
Yes.

and is there anything else of importance to know in doing this.

Not really. Just put it on the cable that has the optical drive on it,
replacing the optical drive temporarily if there is only one drive connector.

Set the boot sequence in the bios so it doesnt boot off the IDE drive.

You can also connect the old and new PCs using
a lan, that can be easier to do mechanically.

Arno Wagner · Jun 19, 2006

Previously Zel Dolinsky said:
Hello:

I have a new machine running XP and it has an 80GB SATA drive. I want to
take my old drive 10GB which has an IDE connection out of my old computer
98SE and put it in new machine and copy files from the IDE drive to the SATA
drive. Can this be done per SATA ---> IDE connections in the new machine
and is there anything else of importance to know in doing this. Thank you
very much for your help.

Should work. Partitions may shift around and you need to select the SATA
as boot drive in the BIOS.

Arno

Horst Franke · Jun 21, 2006

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

Yes.

Hi Zel, why?
New computers also have IDE ports - so there's no need do go
via SATA connections. An 80 pin IDE cable would do.

Not really. Just put it on the cable that has the optical drive on it,

Hi Rod, what has this to do with optical drives?
Neither IDE nor SATA are optical connections!
Horst

Horst Franke · Jun 21, 2006

In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

Should work. Partitions may shift around and you need to select the
SATA as boot drive in the BIOS.

Hi Arno, WHY?
SATA on a new PC is already bootable and connecting the old
IDE HD would ever be possible as a secondary device!
New PCs also have an IDE connector. No need for an adapter.
Horst

J. Clarke · Jun 21, 2006

Horst said:
In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

Hi Zel, why?
New computers also have IDE ports - so there's no need do go
via SATA connections. An 80 pin IDE cable would do.

Hi Rod, what has this to do with optical drives?
Neither IDE nor SATA are optical connections!

Then howcum most of the CD and DVD drives sold have IDE connectors?

Horst Franke · Jun 21, 2006

In news:[email protected] J. Clarke typed:

Then howcum most of the CD and DVD drives sold have IDE connectors?

Sorry John, did not understand Your slang.
Please repeat in pure english.
Yes, the CD/DVD drives I know use IDE connectors.
Optical connections would require extra costs on adapters.
Horst

Rod Speed · Jun 22, 2006

Horst Franke said:
Rod Speed wrote

Hi Zel, why?
New computers also have IDE ports - so there's no need do go
via SATA connections. An 80 pin IDE cable would do.

Hi Rod, what has this to do with optical drives?

That was just one way of indicating which cable to put that
drive on, if he didnt know how to work out where to plug it.

Neither IDE nor SATA are optical connections!

No one ever said they are.

Arno Wagner · Jun 22, 2006

Previously Horst Franke said:
In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

Hi Arno, WHY?

Pretty obvious. If you have more than one bootable device, the BIOS
may but need not choose the SATA device as the first.

SATA on a new PC is already bootable and connecting the old
IDE HD would ever be possible as a secondary device!

There is no intrinsic preference between ATA and SATA,
i.e. ATA need not be secondary. In fact on a pretty new
ASUS board I have ATA is before SATA unless you specify
it otherwise.

Arno

J. Clarke · Jun 22, 2006

Horst said:
In news:[email protected] J. Clarke typed:

Sorry John, did not understand Your slang.
Please repeat in pure english.
Yes, the CD/DVD drives I know use IDE connectors.
Optical connections would require extra costs on adapters.

No slang. CD, DVD, PD, and MO are all considered to be optical storage
devices. This relates to the method by which the data is written to and
read from the disk, not to the interface.

Horst Franke · Jun 22, 2006

In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:

That was just one way of indicating which cable to put that
drive on, if he didnt know how to work out where to plug it.

No one ever said they are.

Hi Rod, yes, You did!That's Yourself in Horst

Horst Franke · Jun 22, 2006

In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

Pretty obvious. If you have more than one bootable device, the BIOS
may but need not choose the SATA device as the first.

Hi Arno, NO!
There's only ONE bootable device via "bootable" attribut!
You may select a sequence within BIOS, but ever only ONE device!
Horst

Horst Franke · Jun 22, 2006

In news:[email protected] J. Clarke typed:

No slang. CD, DVD, PD, and MO are all considered to be optical
storage devices. This relates to the method by which the data is
written to and read from the disk, not to the interface.

Sorry John but I know, nowadays we talk about interfaces!
So "optical" specifies a separate interface, regardless
of the method used for recording the data on the media.
An optical interface uses SP/DIF, fiber optics and so on.
I don't count IDE devices on that.
Horst

Arno Wagner · Jun 22, 2006

Previously Horst Franke said:
In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

Hi Arno, NO!
There's only ONE bootable device via "bootable" attribut!

That is completely untrue. Check your information. Do you
perhaps confuse this with partitions?

You may select a sequence within BIOS, but ever only ONE device!

Huh? What is that supposed to mean?

Arno

Horst Franke · Jun 22, 2006

In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

That is completely untrue. Check your information. Do you
perhaps confuse this with partitions?

Hi Arno, do You have any HW background?
If You want to boot from any drive, it MUST have the "BOOT-FLAG"
in a primary master partition.
Other partition types (another master or extension partition with
logical drives will not be recognized).
Please explain Your objection vs. other partitions.
There can only be ONE bootable partition!

Huh? What is that supposed to mean?

There can only be ONE bootable device per system, identified by
the Boot-Flag. More would make no sense, as the BIOS would not
be able to identify the one to be used among others!
This is pure logic!
Horst

Rod Speed · Jun 22, 2006

Horst Franke said:
In news:[email protected] J. Clarke typed:

Sorry John but I know, nowadays we talk about interfaces!

Not necessarily.

So "optical" specifies a separate interface, regardless
of the method used for recording the data on the media.

Wrong, again.

An optical interface uses SP/DIF, fiber optics and so on.
I don't count IDE devices on that.

Your pig ignorance is your problem.

Rod Speed · Jun 22, 2006

Horst Franke said:
Rod Speed wrote

Hi Rod, yes, You did!

No I didnt!!

That's Yourself in news:[email protected]!

Pity it says absolutely NOTHING about the CONNECTION.

Rod Speed · Jun 22, 2006

Horst Franke said:
Arno Wagner typed

Hi Arno, NO!

FRAID SO!!

There's only ONE bootable device via "bootable" attribut!

Wrong, yet again.

You may select a sequence within BIOS, but ever only ONE device!

Wrong, yet again.

Most bios allow you to set a sequence of drives to attempt to boot
from and it will move thru the list until it finds one that is actually bootable.

There is no problem with having more than one
hard drive which has a bootable attribute in the list.

Rod Speed · Jun 22, 2006

Horst Franke said:
Arno Wagner wrote

Hi Arno, do You have any HW background?
Irrelevant.

If You want to boot from any drive, it MUST have the "BOOT-FLAG" in a primary master
partition.

Pity about your claim about ONE in the first line.

Other partition types (another master or extension partition with logical drives will
not be recognized).

Wrong again. Some systems can boot
logical drives within extended partitions fine.

Please explain Your objection vs. other partitions.
There can only be ONE bootable partition!

Wrong, as always.

There can only be ONE bootable device per system,

Wrong, as always.

identified by the Boot-Flag. More would make no sense, as the BIOS would not be able to
identify the one to be used among others!

Wrong, as always. Most modern bios have a boot order list
and the bios goes thru that list looking for a bootable device.
You're welcome to have more than one bootable device and
vitually all systems have that when there is a bootable CD
in the OPTICAL DRIVE.

This is pure logic!

Its pure drivel, actually.

J. Clarke · Jun 22, 2006

Horst said:
In news:[email protected] J. Clarke typed:

Sorry John but I know, nowadays we talk about interfaces!
So "optical" specifies a separate interface, regardless
of the method used for recording the data on the media.
An optical interface uses SP/DIF, fiber optics and so on.
I don't count IDE devices on that.

The term "optical drive" refers to a storage device that uses optical
techonlogy for data storage. I've never heard a fibre-channel drive called
an "optical drive", it's a magnetic drive with an optical interface.