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Serves you right. They burn you twice yet you go back for more? I
bet you keep buying GM cars, too.
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Wrong. I'm in Europe, and i have Renault. What's this story about GM anyway?
When i watch US movies, all i can see is GM cars, GM cars...only GM cars. Do
you americans have nothing else than GM?

Regarding IBM...i've had 3 IBM drives before (850M, 1.2G and 9.1 G) and all
worked (some still do) perfectly. I believe IBM is very good in drives, they
just had one design flaw. That's why i think if they yould admit their
error, most people would still have faith in IBM. It's normal to make
mistakes now and then. If you search, new IBM drives are sill among the best
in all reviews. All drives die, so i guess anyone you choose it's like
playing a lottery. It's just in some companies you have better odds to be
good.

Oh...about serving me right...true. But not because of IBM drive, but
because i was stupid enough to run my PC without ANY backup images. I
learned my lesson and it won't happen again.
 
SleeperMan said:
Wrong. I'm in Europe, and i have Renault.
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Even worse. 8)
What's this story about GM anyway?
When i watch US movies, all i can see is GM cars, GM cars...only GM cars. Do
you americans have nothing else than GM?
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Ford, of course. But a few decades ago, about half the cars on the
planet were made by GM. They've really went downhill, although they
still are the world's largest vehicle manufacturer.
Oh...about serving me right...true. But not because of IBM drive, but
because i was stupid enough to run my PC without ANY backup images. I
learned my lesson and it won't happen again.
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Now if you'll just stop buying Renaults... 8)
 
Even worse. 8)


Ford, of course. But a few decades ago, about half the cars on the
planet were made by GM. They've really went downhill, although they
still are the world's largest vehicle manufacturer.
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Ford...yeah, sure. I've heard of it... my friend used to have it...he said
it was the worst car he ever had...now he owns a Renault...
Now if you'll just stop buying Renaults... 8)
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You GOTTA be kidding...i bet you don't even knew this factory before...you
don't have it in USA anyway.
 
SleeperMan said:
You GOTTA be kidding...i bet you don't even knew this factory before...you
don't have it in USA anyway.
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Not kidding at all. They used to sell Renault in the US. The quality
and design were "not impressive" to put it kindy, and they were chased
out of this market.

Are you in France? Seems to me the only people who buy French cars
are the French. 8)
 
Not kidding at all. They used to sell Renault in the US. The quality
and design were "not impressive" to put it kindy, and they were chased
out of this market.
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I agree that design in the past was kinda funny...to be honest, i think
design right now is kinda funny, too...too futuristic...i have 3 years old
car and i like it.

Checkout this link

http://rk.avtomobilizem.com/galerija/megane_a/18.jpg

where you see it.
Are you in France? Seems to me the only people who buy French cars
are the French. 8)
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Nope. I think in Whole Europe you can find many such cars. I even think
France is not the one with most sold cars...
But one of those is manufactured in my country (Slovenia - where is it
again? :-))
 
SleeperMan said:
Ford...yeah, sure. I've heard of it... my friend used to have it...he said
it was the worst car he ever had...now he owns a Renault...


You GOTTA be kidding...i bet you don't even knew this factory before...you
don't have it in USA anyway.
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We used to. Peugeot as well. I don't recall any Citroen dealers but there
were some of those cars around too.

Not sure why they left the American market--I suspect that they didn't want
to go through the effort of meeting US safety and emission standards.
 
We used to. Peugeot as well. I don't recall any Citroen dealers but
there were some of those cars around too.

Not sure why they left the American market--I suspect that they
didn't want to go through the effort of meeting US safety and
emission standards.
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Who knows. I just remember that one my friend just bought brand new Renault
(big, expensive one) and then sbout 6 months later he got the job in Canada.
He had to sell the car because service and parts are just not available in
Canada or USA. Second thing is that European cars are smaller than US ones.
About emission we could talk about. All that US cars with enormous engines
and consumption...in Europe average consumption is 6-8 litres per 100 km
(that would be 1.5-2 gallons per 70-80 miles).
 
J. Clarke said:
We used to. Peugeot as well. I don't recall any Citroen dealers but there
were some of those cars around too.

Not sure why they left the American market--I suspect that they didn't want
to go through the effort of meeting US safety and emission standards.
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Well, considering it's by FAR the world's largest car market, it's
well worth the effort (read: lots of money to be made), IF what you
have to sell is competitive. For car manufacturers, the inability to
sustain a viable US presence is a major "defeat".
 
SleeperMan said:
I agree that design in the past was kinda funny...to be honest, i think
design right now is kinda funny, too...too futuristic...i have 3 years old
car and i like it.

Checkout this link

http://rk.avtomobilizem.com/galerija/megane_a/18.jpg

where you see it.
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Ouch! Do you have a picture of it before the crash? 8)
Nope. I think in Whole Europe you can find many such cars. I even think
France is not the one with most sold cars...
But one of those is manufactured in my country (Slovenia - where is it
again? :-))
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Well, you know we Americans are notoriously bad at geography... It's
all still Russia to me... 8)
 
Ouch! Do you have a picture of it before the crash? 8)


Well, you know we Americans are notoriously bad at geography... It's
all still Russia to me... 8)
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LOL !!!
 
SleeperMan said:
Who knows. I just remember that one my friend just bought brand new
Renault (big, expensive one) and then sbout 6 months later he got the job
in Canada. He had to sell the car because service and parts are just not
available in Canada or USA. Second thing is that European cars are smaller
than US ones. About emission we could talk about. All that US cars with
enormous engines and consumption...in Europe average consumption is 6-8
litres per 100 km (that would be 1.5-2 gallons per 70-80 miles).
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It's not a matter of quantity of emissions, it's a matter of different
standards.

I'd like to see a source supporting the contention that the _average_ fuel
consumption for cars in Europe is 35-40 MPG.

Bear in mind that the Germans and Swedes have not abandoned the US market,
just the Italians (except at the extreme high end) and French and to some
extent the British--there are plenty of European cars available in the US.
And the "enormous engines" are for the most part a thing of the past.
 
Well, considering it's by FAR the world's largest car market,
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Nope, not if you consider the EU to be one market it aint.
it's well worth the effort (read: lots of money to
be made), IF what you have to sell is competitive.
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And it never has been for Citroen.
For car manufacturers, the inability to sustain
a viable US presence is a major "defeat".
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Bullshit. Many have the sense to realise that its never
going to amount to much of a market FOR THEM.
 
It's not a matter of quantity of emissions, it's a matter of different
standards.

I'd like to see a source supporting the contention that the _average_
fuel consumption for cars in Europe is 35-40 MPG.

Bear in mind that the Germans and Swedes have not abandoned the US
market, just the Italians (except at the extreme high end) and French
and to some extent the British--there are plenty of European cars
available in the US. And the "enormous engines" are for the most part
a thing of the past.
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I'm glad to hear this...however, this is not entirely true (at least here).
Big engines with biiiig power are more and more common (like Mercedes S600
etc). Who knows, why those two left US market. Here Italian cars do have bad
reputation (like easy break, low quality etc), while French are some kind of
middle class cars.
 
SleeperMan said:
I'm glad to hear this...however, this is not entirely true (at least
here). Big engines with biiiig power are more and more common (like
Mercedes S600 etc). Who knows, why those two left US market. Here Italian
cars do have bad reputation (like easy break, low quality etc), while
French are some kind of middle class cars.
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The S600 has a 5.5 liter engine. The 1976 Lincoln sitting in my driveway
has a 7.5 liter. For a while Cadillacs came with 8 liter engines. Many
American cars had 5.5 liter engines--the Chevrolet version was known as the
"Mouse Motor" because of its small displacement. The Mercedes engine is
more powerful--both the Lincoln and the Cadillac were in a very mild state
of tune--but it is most assuredly not an "enormous engine" by American
standards.
 
The S600 has a 5.5 liter engine. The 1976 Lincoln sitting in my
driveway has a 7.5 liter. For a while Cadillacs came with 8 liter
engines. Many American cars had 5.5 liter engines--the Chevrolet
version was known as the "Mouse Motor" because of its small
displacement. The Mercedes engine is more powerful--both the Lincoln
and the Cadillac were in a very mild state of tune--but it is most
assuredly not an "enormous engine" by American standards.
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Niiiice...8 liter.... woooow
 
SleeperMan said:
I'm glad to hear this...however, this is not entirely true (at least here).
Big engines with biiiig power are more and more common (like Mercedes S600
etc). Who knows, why those two left US market. Here Italian cars do have bad
reputation (like easy break, low quality etc), while French are some kind of
middle class cars.
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ALWAYS with some extremely weird ideas about how to do things.

Frog cars have always been like that.
 
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