Cleaning Canon nozzles - i950 bubble jet.

[DD]

Where does all the ink go when you perform a cleaning or deep cleaning
operation on the Canon i950? The instructions say that Deep cleaning
uses a lot of ink but there is no mention of where it ends up!
Anyone know?

DD

 

[B.B. from N.B.]

Where does all the ink go when you perform a cleaning or deep cleaning
operation on the Canon i950? The instructions say that Deep cleaning
uses a lot of ink but there is no mention of where it ends up!
Anyone know?

DD

On the I850 there is a ink overflow reservoir that periodically needs to be
cleaned or the printer stops working.

I am taking my 850 to a Canon repair shop tomorrow to clean it out.

 

[DD]

How did you get to know about that? I have searched everywhere for some
information about this subject!

DD

 

[beezer]

Where does all the ink go when you perform a cleaning or deep cleaning
operation on the Canon i950? The instructions say that Deep cleaning
uses a lot of ink but there is no mention of where it ends up!
Anyone know?

DD

If you look by the bottom rollers that lay just below the head there
is a sponge strip that runs along the bottom.. Only a small strip is
exposed.

Excess ink is absorbed in this sponge from cleaning and overspray of
the paper edge. . it is quite possible to blot up a bulk of it before
it becomes full. I am not postive but i believe that when the sponge
becomes saturated all the way to the left, that may set off the full
reservoir indicator and then requiring service.

Mine seems to be faintly wet for about 1/4 of the length. Kinda like a
lightly wet ink stamp pad.

See how far along to the left you can blot ink with a paper towel. If
its pretty wet, you might want to try just blotting or wicking up the
ink. It may save a trip for servicing.

I never run the head cleaning manually myself. I never had a reason
to. My printer seems to take care of itsself just fine.

 

[DD]

If you look by the bottom rollers that lay just below the head there
is a sponge strip that runs along the bottom.. Only a small strip is
exposed.

Excess ink is absorbed in this sponge from cleaning and overspray of
the paper edge. . it is quite possible to blot up a bulk of it before
it becomes full. I am not postive but i believe that when the sponge
becomes saturated all the way to the left, that may set off the full
reservoir indicator and then requiring service.

Mine seems to be faintly wet for about 1/4 of the length. Kinda like a
lightly wet ink stamp pad.

See how far along to the left you can blot ink with a paper towel. If
its pretty wet, you might want to try just blotting or wicking up the
ink. It may save a trip for servicing.

I never run the head cleaning manually myself. I never had a reason
to. My printer seems to take care of itsself just fine.

That was a good bit of information, I will do as you suggest when I
have the time and inclination. I have only had the printer for a few
months and have not had reason to use it much until now. I was printing
some snow scenes [Yes we do get snow in Australia - in some parts!],
anyway, the snow printed pink then when I printed another after filling
the photo cyan tank, guess what? It printed light blue! To cut a long
story in half, it turned out to be a fault in the print program I was
using.
In an effort to find out what the cause was, I used the nozzle cleaning
and deep cleaning a lot more than I should have.

Thanks...

DD

 

[B.B. from N.B.]

How did you get to know about that? I have searched everywhere for some
information about this subject!

DD

The information is on the Canon website but as I mentioned I have an I850
and the information might be different for the I960.

 

[Michael]

On the I850 there is a ink overflow reservoir that periodically needs to be
cleaned or the printer stops working.

There's huge pad at the bottom of the printer and a big sponge, called
the "waste ink tank"

And it DOES NOT have to be cleaned. Never.

I am taking my 850 to a Canon repair shop tomorrow to clean it out.

Not wise of you to do that.

 

[PC Medic]

On the I850 there is a ink overflow reservoir that periodically needs to be
cleaned or the printer stops working.

I am taking my 850 to a Canon repair shop tomorrow to clean it out.

I am assuming you refer to the Waste Ink Tank (not a tank in reality) and am
not sure where you got your information, but this does NOT need periodic
cleaning. With normal use it is rare one should ever need to have this type
service done during the life of the printer. I have had several of their
printers and never had to perform this. I have a S520 (low end) and even it
after nearly two years and numerous 700+ page jobs has never given a
problem.

If service is needed in the Waste Ink area the printer will trigger an error
code to indicate this. Don't waste your time or money.

 

[PC Medic]

to

The information is on the Canon website but as I mentioned I have an I850
and the information might be different for the I960.

All models have similar function and NONE should need service on this under
normal circumstances. If it does, the printer will flash an error code
indicating it and that is the ONLY time service should be performed.

 

[PC Medic]

If you look by the bottom rollers that lay just below the head there
is a sponge strip that runs along the bottom.. Only a small strip is
exposed.

Excess ink is absorbed in this sponge from cleaning and overspray of
the paper edge. . it is quite possible to blot up a bulk of it before
it becomes full. I am not postive but i believe that when the sponge
becomes saturated all the way to the left, that may set off the full
reservoir indicator and then requiring service.

While you are partially right this particular sponge absorbs ink from
overspray while performing borderless prints, but does not during a cleaning
cycle. It also does not have any part in triggering a Waste Ink error as
that is an entirely differnt part in the printer with its own method of
detecting need for service.

Mine seems to be faintly wet for about 1/4 of the length. Kinda like a
lightly wet ink stamp pad.

See how far along to the left you can blot ink with a paper towel. If
its pretty wet, you might want to try just blotting or wicking up the
ink. It may save a trip for servicing.

Certainly not a recommended practice. Again, has nothing to due with service
error indicators and attempting this may infact cause problems should you
get ink on the rollers (causing vertical lines on your print outs) or on the
encoder strip (destroying any chance of a succesful head alignment without
service).

I never run the head cleaning manually myself. I never had a reason
to. My printer seems to take care of itsself just fine.

As it is designed to do!

 

[PC Medic]

If you look by the bottom rollers that lay just below the head there
is a sponge strip that runs along the bottom.. Only a small strip is
exposed.

Excess ink is absorbed in this sponge from cleaning and overspray of
the paper edge. . it is quite possible to blot up a bulk of it before
it becomes full. I am not postive but i believe that when the sponge
becomes saturated all the way to the left, that may set off the full
reservoir indicator and then requiring service.

Mine seems to be faintly wet for about 1/4 of the length. Kinda like a
lightly wet ink stamp pad.

See how far along to the left you can blot ink with a paper towel. If
its pretty wet, you might want to try just blotting or wicking up the
ink. It may save a trip for servicing.

I never run the head cleaning manually myself. I never had a reason
to. My printer seems to take care of itsself just fine.

That was a good bit of information, I will do as you suggest when I
have the time and inclination. I have only had the printer for a few
months and have not had reason to use it much until now. I was printing
some snow scenes [Yes we do get snow in Australia - in some parts!],
anyway, the snow printed pink then when I printed another after filling
the photo cyan tank, guess what? It printed light blue! To cut a long
story in half, it turned out to be a fault in the print program I was
using.
In an effort to find out what the cause was, I used the nozzle cleaning
and deep cleaning a lot more than I should have.

As a general rule when experiencing your type problem the first thing to
check would be the Nozzle Check.
If all test patterns are complete (refer to manual), then printhead and or
cleanings are not the issue and cleanings is simply a waste of ink. If the
patterns are incomplete 3-4 cleanings max is all that should be needed. If
under warranty, call for possible replacement printhead.

Next step would be to verify that inks are installed in proper positions
paying special attention that photo ink is not in a regular ink position.

Still have problems, check driver settings and if using a color profile in
your application then do not set a color profile in the driver. Best to
leave the driver on auto.

Then try a different image. If the photo being printed is from a digital
camera thats 'white balance' setting was slightly off, the image may look
fine on monitor, but print with a pink or blue hue.

Try the image on plain paper. This is especially important when using 3rd
party inks or papers as the driver settings are optimized for Canon inks and
specialty papers. It is not unusual for the chemical content to react
differently with some paper emulsions and result in a color shift.

 

[B.B. from N.B.]

I am assuming you refer to the Waste Ink Tank (not a tank in reality) and am
not sure where you got your information, but this does NOT need periodic
cleaning. With normal use it is rare one should ever need to have this type
service done during the life of the printer. I have had several of their
printers and never had to perform this. I have a S520 (low end) and even it
after nearly two years and numerous 700+ page jobs has never given a
problem.

If service is needed in the Waste Ink area the printer will trigger an error
code to indicate this. Don't waste your time or money.

Actually, it turned out to be a bad printhead that was causing the error
message. I was reading the number of flashes of orange incorrectly.

I did take it to a service center. They replaced the printhead on warranty
and it is now printing fine again.

They also told me that the waste overflow almost never needs to be cleaned
or serviced.

 

[B.B. from N.B.]

"B.B. from N.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message

There's huge pad at the bottom of the printer and a big sponge, called
the "waste ink tank"

And it DOES NOT have to be cleaned. Never.


Not wise of you to do that.

Why would it not be wise to bring my printer to a service center if it isn't
printing?

Who better to take care of it?

 

[PC Medic]

to

Why would it not be wise to bring my printer to a service center if it isn't
printing?

Who better to take care of it?

I am curious to hear this response myself ???

 

[Ron Cohen]

On the I850 there is a ink overflow reservoir that periodically
needs

to

I am curious to hear this response myself ???

Here's one.
It would depend upon the cost and/or if the service is covered by warranty.
This was in reference to an i850 (replaced by the i560). A quick search
shows a new i560 can be purchased on Amazon for $78.84 or Newegg.com for
$76.99 - both with free shipping. I've seen them locally at Office Depot and
Sam's for less than that and then a rebate was also available which really
cuts the cost. Subtract the value of the OEM ink tanks included with the new
printer and you have the net cost of the printer which would be somewhere
around $35.00 before any rebates. Also to consider is the distance and/or
cost of shipping or driving to the service center along with the length of
time it is expected to be in the shop. Just my thoughts.

Ron Cohen

 

[PC Medic]

Here's one.
It would depend upon the cost and/or if the service is covered by warranty.
This was in reference to an i850 (replaced by the i560). A quick search
shows a new i560 can be purchased on Amazon for $78.84 or Newegg.com for
$76.99 - both with free shipping. I've seen them locally at Office Depot and
Sam's for less than that and then a rebate was also available which really
cuts the cost. Subtract the value of the OEM ink tanks included with the new
printer and you have the net cost of the printer which would be somewhere
around $35.00 before any rebates. Also to consider is the distance and/or
cost of shipping or driving to the service center along with the length of
time it is expected to be in the shop. Just my thoughts.

If a service center replaced an i850 with an i560 that was a service center
issue, not a Canon issue. An i850 would be replaced (if needed) with an i860
not an i560. Now if the printer in this example was under warranty, a call
to Canon I am sure would have corrected this.
Also, your method for determining the net 'value' of the hardware is quite
flawed. It may look good on paper, but is not the way things work.

 

[Michael]

I am curious to hear this response myself ???

SATISFIED ?!?

 

[Michael]

Why would it not be wise to bring my printer to a service center if it isn't
printing?

1. If you would pay attention to what people write on this group, you
would know the answer. OK, in case you still don't know, I'll tell
you: you can reset the waste ink tank counter by pressing the buttons
on the printer in the right order (I published the procedure in one of
my previous posts).
So, no need to take the printer to the service.

2. Mo0st of these cases happen when the printer is out of warranty. So
you have to pay for it; how much? Depending on where you live from 10$
to 100$.

3. People in most service centers don't care about printers they
service and with such advanced machines like Canon's printers it is
very likely that they will screw sth up, which is very easy to do.

4. Not changing the pads (the waste ink tank), doesn't affect the
quality of the printouts.

5. Waste ink tank is basically for Canon to keep it's service centers
running.

Who better to take care of it?

Printer takes care of itself the best. Just replace the ink tanks, be
sure to print sth at least once a month and everything should be OK.

Mike

 

[PC Medic]

"PC Medic" <[email protected]> wrote in message

SATISFIED ?!?

If you refer to your direct response to the OP, not particularly. Your
response is that of a very uninformed individual and a perfect example of
why folks should always double check the advice received here in the
newsgroups before proceeding to save themselves some grief.

 

[PC Medic]

"B.B. from N.B." <[email protected]> wrote in message

1. If you would pay attention to what people write on this group, you
would know the answer. OK, in case you still don't know, I'll tell
you: you can reset the waste ink tank counter by pressing the buttons
on the printer in the right order (I published the procedure in one of
my previous posts).
So, no need to take the printer to the service.

Perhaps wise not to pay attention to such advice. That is of course unless
you do not care for the printer or your desk.
I have seen on more than one occasion the results of those foolish enough to
simply reset the warning indicator without first performing the needed
service. Tell me, do you just reset your 'Check Engine' and 'Air Bag'
warning indicators on your vehicle also?

2. Mo0st of these cases happen when the printer is out of warranty. So
you have to pay for it; how much? Depending on where you live from 10$
to 100$.

$10 (or even more) would be worth it to keep an i950 PROPERLY operational.

3. People in most service centers don't care about printers they
service and with such advanced machines like Canon's printers it is
very likely that they will screw sth up, which is very easy to do.

Yes, you have demonstrated that some can easily screw up a perfectly good
printer.
Perhaps if you only use an 'AUTHORIZED' service center which has the service
manuals and procedures for each model, you will get correct service
performed.

4. Not changing the pads (the waste ink tank), doesn't affect the
quality of the printouts.

Ahh, but you can in fact be sorely mistaken here. Bad purge means heads do
not clean properly which means possible streaking in printouts or premature
failure of the prunthead. Of course the damage that is possible to the top
of your desk is also a good reason not to follow such shoddy advice.

5. Waste ink tank is basically for Canon to keep it's service centers
running.

You do of course realize that ALL printers have the same sort of mechanism
and that it is required for obvious reasons?

Printer takes care of itself the best. Just replace the ink tanks, be
sure to print sth at least once a month and everything should be OK.

So why do we print 'sth' once a month.
Simple fact is this is about your only correct statement. The printer does
generally take care of itself and with the exception of poor print quality
or a service/error indicator, no user intervention should be required.