change physical address of Ethernet Adapter

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The second comp is just a temporary situation. I am in a process of moving
from one PC to another, no point to install a router if there other ways -
and this is what I am trying to find out here
 
Well, as an aside subject, for security reasons I wouldn't connect to
the internet without going through a NAT router, passing through NAT is
probably one of the biggest security measures that you can take when
connecting to the internet.

John
 
smlunatick said:
Some ISPs detect the MAC address and lock their service access to that
specific one. Routers usually have a feature which allows you to
"copy" this MAC address onto the WAN port.
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Was true when ISPs attempted to enforce the use of a single computer
connected to their service. As routers became more prevalent, they lost
that control since it is trivial for routers or operating system to
define any WAN-side MAC address they want. Now they just lock in on the
MAC address for the cable modem when you provision your modem to
validate your use of their service. The OP should not be attempting to
change the MAC address of their cable modem.
 
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many users don't use it, including many OE-using MVPs).
 
John John - MVP wrote:

My telco would never try a
stunt like that, as I said they are more business oriented.
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Your telco must be someone other than Bell. I wouldn't put anything past
them after their latest shenanigans ... opening packet headers and
throttling based on traffic type not only their own (Sympatico)
customers but those of third-party ISP's who are forced to use Bell's
backbone.
 
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I'd get that WinXP SP1 box fully-patched at Windows Update before worrying
about the physical address of Ethernet Adapter if I were you, d00d!

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b

NB: Computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
security updates, Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows
Update website will not be available after 12 April 2010 until SP3 is
installed.
 
aa said:
is there a way to change physical address of Ethernet Adapter which shows up
in ipconfig /all like 00-11-2F-00-11-2D ?

My Internet provider uses this address to set something on their end
manually. For the moment I am testing another computer and every time I
switch between the two computers I have to call the provider
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Just a thought, since you didn't make it clear: Is the adapter in the
original machine integrated into the MB or is it a plug-in card? If it's
the latter of course, you could simply switch it between machines for
the duration of your testing. (Bit of a chore but not *too* bad and
better that calling the isp each time).
 
John said:
Well, as an aside subject, for security reasons I wouldn't connect to
the internet without going through a NAT router, passing through NAT is
probably one of the biggest security measures that you can take when
connecting to the internet.
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I'll second that ... and a basic router isn't exactly expensive these
days, especially from Craigslist (assuming you can find one amongst the
Chinese spam/scam).
 
Sid said:
John John - MVP wrote:



Your telco must be someone other than Bell. I wouldn't put anything past
them after their latest shenanigans ... opening packet headers and
throttling based on traffic type not only their own (Sympatico)
customers but those of third-party ISP's who are forced to use Bell's
backbone.
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We 'were' Aliant which was formerly NBTel, in its days NBTel was one of
the most advanced telco in the world. About a year ago Bell purchased
Aliant but so far the service for business customers remains solid, I
hope it lasts because we certainly know that Bell has a very poor
reputation when it comes to customer service, we found that out when
they purchased the Aliant wireless division about 2 or 3 years ago.

As for traffic shaping (throttling) they aren't the only ones to do it,
Rogers has also been engaging in these same shenanigans.

John
 
> I'll second that ...
and a basic router isn't exactly expensive these
days, especially from Craigslist (assuming you can find one amongst the
Chinese spam/scam).
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It's not just a cost, it is time to buy it, space on the desk and an exctra
electrical socket - I already have too many of these
 
PA Bear said:
From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106

I'd get that WinXP SP1 box fully-patched at Windows Update before worrying
about the physical address of Ethernet Adapter if I were you, d00d!
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My question was not about the best operating system, d00dy
 
Sid Elbow said:
Just a thought, since you didn't make it clear: Is the adapter in the
original machine integrated into the MB or is it a plug-in card? If it's
the latter of course, you could simply switch it between machines for
the duration of your testing. (Bit of a chore but not *too* bad and
better that calling the isp each time).
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These are two standard destops of the same model and swapping the adapters
cards is possible, but as u rightly pointed out, calling ISP is easier
 
VanguardLH said:
Device Manager
Select your NIC
In its properties, change its network address.
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Tried to follow your instructions on my w2k sp4. There is no NIC there. If
you mean network adapters, yes there is VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter,
but its properties show niether its network address not a buttim to change
it
 
John said:
As for traffic shaping (throttling) they aren't the only ones to do it,
Rogers has also been engaging in these same shenanigans.
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Absolutely .... but Rogers is doing it to its own customers (most of
whom have the obvious option). Bell otoh isn't confining throttling to
its Sympatico customers but is also doing it to individual customers of
the third-party ISP's who purchase bandwidth on the Bell-owned (but
originally funded partly by the taxpayer) infrastructure.

While it might be legitimate for Bell to limit the overall bandwidth
used by those ISP's at the wholesale level (depending on their legal
agreements with the ISP's), to interfere on an individual user basis
with the clients of those ISP's smacks of monopoly-abuse, anti-trust and
limiting competition (with Bell). Let's face it, Bell ultimately
controls the overall rates the ISP's can charge; the major service
differential those ISP's can offer on a competitive basis is (was)
bandwidth.
 
aa said:
It's not just a cost, it is time to buy it, space on the desk and an exctra
electrical socket - I already have too many of these
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I know what you mean - and it's not just sockets per se. Most of my
equipment is in the two back bedrooms on the top floor of my house. The
whole area is fed off one electical circuit!
 
These are two standard destops of the same model and swapping the adapters
cards is possible, but as u rightly pointed out, calling ISP is easier
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..... actually, I was pointing out that *swapping netcards* is arguably
easier than calling the isp each time (going through the call-in menu,
waiting on hold, listening to the isp telling you they have better
things to do than keep changing mac addresses for you and then waiting
while they do it). Most people just leave the covers off the machines
while testing so it only takes a minute or so (literally) to swap cards.
Heck, you don't even *have* to put the card retaining screw in each time
on a temporary basis.
 
Sid Elbow said:
I know what you mean - and it's not just sockets per se. Most of my
equipment is in the two back bedrooms on the top floor of my house. The
whole area is fed off one electical circuit!
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There is a handy gadget called 'kill a watt' which could help you verify
whether your worst fears about this potential overload are justified. It
plugs into a socket and you can plug one thing into it; I plug in a multi
outlet strip so I can see the load of all the stuff one might have on a
circuit. When plugged into a socket, it can display one thing at a time
ranging from voltage, Watts, Volt-Amps, frequency, power factor,
hours/minutes since powered-up, and Kilowatt hours used since powered up.
Fry's Electronics has priced it from about $15 to about $30 within the last
12 months.

I find it very handy to find out how much load is being placed on each
outlet and the total for each circuit breaker. I also find it handy to know
how much the voltage drops as more load is placed on each outlet. It should
not drop more than a few volts for large loads like a 1200-watt blow dryer;
I have found sockets/light switches with improperly tightened electrical
connections with these techniques.

There is also a higher priced 'kill a watt EZ', which I find more difficult
to use for simply seeing how much load there is on a circuit.

-Paul Randall
 
aa said:
VanguardLH wrote ...


Tried to follow your instructions on my w2k sp4. There is no NIC
there. If you mean network adapters, yes there is VIA Rhine II Fast
Ethernet Adapter, but its properties show niether its network address
not a buttim to change it
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Not all network interface cards/controllers (NIC, aka network adapter)
support software control over what the OS reports as the MAC address for
the device. Apparently yours does not. So go the router solution
mentioned by others where you can either clone the MAC address of one of
your intranet hosts (i.e., the one that got provisioned with your ISP
and is the current one to which they will allow use of their resources).
 
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