Catalysts 3.6 OUT!

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Well we have stable drivers (at least they have been for me), now we just
need a stable version of MMC that doesn't hog every resource on the PC!
Only took them a few years for the driver, i won't expect MMC to improve
anytime soon :o(

David
 
What's MMC?

Chris Smith

David Walker said:
Well we have stable drivers (at least they have been for me), now we just
need a stable version of MMC that doesn't hog every resource on the PC!
Only took them a few years for the driver, i won't expect MMC to improve
anytime soon :o(

David
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JAD said:
3.6 has made improvements in basic TV/DVD functions / Vs resources,
for me.....BUT DAMN IT I wish ATI would stop printing what appears to be
the proper order in which to install these,(e.g. 1.2.3.) but not so!, once
again its seems to be wdm driver,no boot, drivers, reboot, control panel
(if you want). why do I constantly get a 'no wdm inf file installed' even
though everything seems to function perfectly. Is this not the proper order
of installation? When I install just the drivers, then reboot, I get
'unknown hardware' and no install, this results in a unknown hardware entry
in device manager after cancelling(or was I to search automatically, this
doesn't seem to be the proper sequence of events however).
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Yes, it has me really confused that in earlier Cat packages, WDM drivers
were included in the download and install list, but 3.5 and 3.6 just ignore
them.

Actually the 3.5 page first didn't have them, then it did, then it didn't.
Of course, following the instructions given on the latest page results in
removing existing display driver and control panel, installing new driver
etc this works OK, but trying a clean install without adding earlier WDM
drivers does NOT work.

A word of explanation from ATI would be helpful.

Laurence
 
Laurence Wilmer said:
Yes, it has me really confused that in earlier Cat packages, WDM drivers
were included in the download and install list, but 3.5 and 3.6 just ignore
them.

Actually the 3.5 page first didn't have them, then it did, then it didn't.
Of course, following the instructions given on the latest page results in
removing existing display driver and control panel, installing new driver
etc this works OK, but trying a clean install without adding earlier WDM
drivers does NOT work.

A word of explanation from ATI would be helpful.

Laurence
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This time the "all-in-one" driver is 16MB, so presumably it _is_ the
complete set now.

But as far as the correct order is concerned, I tried ATi's new
recommendation for the 3.6s - started with the display driver installation
and wouldn't you know - it crashed. So I uninstalled again, cleaned my
system up again, and went back to the tried and true method - capture
driver, don't reboot, display driver, reboot, control panel, reboot. Worked
fine. So it looks like the ATi site people, as usual, are on something we'd
have to pay a lot of money for, and as for the orifice they're ingesting it
through...

patrickp
 
Just installed 3.6 and Tribes2 is totally messed up in OpenGL.
Using Direct the fps are half of the Open GL rates so thats not an option.
Back to 3.5 and everything is perfect.
 
Jack,

If you have the ATI Control Panel installed, could you check something
for me on your setup (since you just did what I want to try).

Right click on the ATI Control Panel, select ATI Programs and tell me
what's listed on your setup.

I have: DVD, LaunchPad, File Player, Library, TV, Remote, Video CD, and
CD Audio

I use to have problems with some of these apps getting messed up in this
particular listing (requiring a registry edit to fix) whenever I
uninstalled the ATI Control Panel. This system is rock solid, everything
works like a champ, and I don't want to feck anything up (but I do have
a disk clone so I'm real tempted to give this all-in-one driver bundle a
shot)...

Thanks a lot!

Larry
 
Larry...I don't quite understand your directions...I have the ATI Control Panel installed but I sure can't right click on it or find the ATI Programs...

Under the Start Menu if I click on Programs and go to the ATI Multimedia Center listing I have ATI Remote Wonder, CD Audio, Configuration, DVD, File Player, Launch Pad, TV and Video CD. On Launch Pad I have Player, VCD, CD, DVD, TV and Library.

My Control Panel shows Catalyst 3.6 and all the new drivers as does dxdiag.

Again, I did not uninstall anything...just clicked on the Bundled download and rebooted when all was finished. Every thing appears fine and working well.

Jack
Jack,

If you have the ATI Control Panel installed, could you check something for me on your setup (since you just did what I want to try).

Right click on the ATI Control Panel, select ATI Programs and tell me what's listed on your setup.

I have: DVD, LaunchPad, File Player, Library, TV, Remote, Video CD, and CD Audio

I use to have problems with some of these apps getting messed up in this particular listing (requiring a registry edit to fix) whenever I uninstalled the ATI Control Panel. This system is rock solid, everything works like a champ, and I don't want to feck anything up (but I do have a disk clone so I'm real tempted to give this all-in-one driver bundle a shot)...

Thanks a lot!

Larry

Nevada Jack wrote:

I downloaded the bundled package of 16 mb's. Clicked on the file, it did
the entire install asking for a single reboot at the end of the install. No
uninstall of Display and no individual installs. Works fine with all the
latest drivers and 3.6 Catalyst listed in Control Panel.

Jack
 
Jack,

Sorry for the confusion. In the system tray (lower right-hand corner of
the screen), do you have a red/white ATI icon? If the ATI Control panel
is installed correctly, you should. Mine shows up next to the Volume
icon and a Norton AV icon.

If you right click this red/white ATI Control panel icon (system tray
icon), you should see options displayed in a popup menu.

I went ahead and installed the latest bundle and EXACTLY to my
suspicion, the install of everything works as you indicated but upon
reboot, there is NO longer a listing of ATI Programs in the popup menu
if you right click on the red/white ATI Control panel icon displayed in
the system tray!!!

ATI is always half ass about things. I even tried re-installing the ATI
Control panel, no dice; ATI Programs is broken in this menu (this
problem has been around for a while).

I guess I shouldn't complain because the drivers are stable, and the
installation was a breeze; no uninstalling!!

The fix action to add the ATI Programs to the ATI Control icon is easy
using a registry editor. If you're interested, I can post the
instructions...I love this feature because this is where I usually
launch the TV player or the Library...

Larry
 
Yes, I for one would like the registry information for getting the system
tray icon pop up back (that is the programs flyout). Thanks.

Helen


Jack,

Sorry for the confusion. In the system tray (lower right-hand corner of the
screen), do you have a red/white ATI icon? If the ATI Control panel is
installed correctly, you should. Mine shows up next to the Volume icon and a
Norton AV icon.

If you right click this red/white ATI Control panel icon (system tray icon),
you should see options displayed in a popup menu.

I went ahead and installed the latest bundle and EXACTLY to my suspicion,
the install of everything works as you indicated but upon reboot, there is
NO longer a listing of ATI Programs in the popup menu if you right click on
the red/white ATI Control panel icon displayed in the system tray!!!

ATI is always half ass about things. I even tried re-installing the ATI
Control panel, no dice; ATI Programs is broken in this menu (this problem
has been around for a while).

I guess I shouldn't complain because the drivers are stable, and the
installation was a breeze; no uninstalling!!

The fix action to add the ATI Programs to the ATI Control icon is easy using
a registry editor. If you're interested, I can post the instructions...I
love this feature because this is where I usually launch the TV player or
the Library...

Larry

Nevada Jack wrote:

Larry...I don't quite understand your directions...I have the ATI Control
Panel installed but I sure can't right click on it or find the ATI
Programs...

Under the Start Menu if I click on Programs and go to the ATI Multimedia
Center listing I have ATI Remote Wonder, CD Audio, Configuration, DVD, File
Player, Launch Pad, TV and Video CD. On Launch Pad I have Player, VCD, CD,
DVD, TV and Library.

My Control Panel shows Catalyst 3.6 and all the new drivers as does dxdiag.

Again, I did not uninstall anything...just clicked on the Bundled download
and rebooted when all was finished. Every thing appears fine and working
well.

Jack
Jack,

If you have the ATI Control Panel installed, could you check something for
me on your setup (since you just did what I want to try).

Right click on the ATI Control Panel, select ATI Programs and tell me what's
listed on your setup.

I have: DVD, LaunchPad, File Player, Library, TV, Remote, Video CD, and CD
Audio

I use to have problems with some of these apps getting messed up in this
particular listing (requiring a registry edit to fix) whenever I uninstalled
the ATI Control Panel. This system is rock solid, everything works like a
champ, and I don't want to feck anything up (but I do have a disk clone so
I'm real tempted to give this all-in-one driver bundle a shot)...

Thanks a lot!

Larry

Nevada Jack wrote:

I downloaded the bundled package of 16 mb's. Clicked on the file, it did
the entire install asking for a single reboot at the end of the install. No
uninstall of Display and no individual installs. Works fine with all the
latest drivers and 3.6 Catalyst listed in Control Panel.

Jack
 
Laurence Wilmer said:
Bundle? What bundle? I just had to go and look again, as I didn't see any
bundle before and yes! And waddya know a WDM driver!
Weird - that happened with 3.5 (Chimpanzees at work again in this area, or
its my browser?).
Must download copies of it all quick, in case needed in future...

Done - notice that instructions (on running the bundle) say "Un-install
previous version of display driver" with no mention of Control panel, WDM.
Is that what you tried ie leaving old WDM, CP and installing this new bundle
over the top of them?

Thanks for the heads up, Patrick.
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I always do a totally clean install. Once you get your own method worked
out, it doesn't take long.

patrickp
 
patrickp said:
This time the "all-in-one" driver is 16MB, so presumably it _is_ the
complete set now.

But as far as the correct order is concerned, I tried ATi's new
recommendation for the 3.6s - started with the display driver installation
and wouldn't you know - it crashed. So I uninstalled again, cleaned my
system up again, and went back to the tried and true method - capture
driver, don't reboot, display driver, reboot, control panel, reboot. Worked
fine. So it looks like the ATi site people, as usual, are on something we'd
have to pay a lot of money for, and as for the orifice they're ingesting it
through...

patrickp
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I just tested installing the 3.6 software bundle, without uninstalling
anything first, and
- the install went fine, error-free
- DX9 diagnostics (and my awkward DX9 apps) ran just fine
- BUT (usual stress test) - captured some TV avi, tried to play it again,
and MMC locked up. End all tasks, try to load the captured file and no
display on playing it.

So now I know that not uninstalling first fouls up TV capture. Do I want to
experiment further? No! reloaded my Ghost backup, restored my working system
with 3.5 display 8.1 MMC.

Laurence
 
Just performed the "stress test" you mentioned and no problems capturing or
playing back AVI file.

Jack
 
Beg your pardon...MMC does freeze up when I use the MMC Player to play the
AVI Capture file. Same AVI file plays fine in MS Media 9 player.

Guess I will reload in the old fashion way, although I do not use MMC
usually to playback anything...have preference set to Media Player 9.

Jack
 
Nevada Jack said:
I downloaded the bundled package of 16 mb's. Clicked on the file, it did
the entire install asking for a single reboot at the end of the install. No
uninstall of Display and no individual installs. Works fine with all the
latest drivers and 3.6 Catalyst listed in Control Panel.

Jack
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I did the same thing and it worked well also. Why did it take the ATI fools
this long to think of this--the single download/installer? Either there's
some obscure motivation that isn't apparent, or they're massively
incompetent. But judging by the way MMC "works", I'd say the latter.

Six years from now they'll incorporate into the download, an UNinstaller to
automatically remove your old driver. It will take massive research and
billions of dollars to accomplish. Idiots.
 
Not a problem with the AVI Capture but with playing it back on the ATI
Player.

Jack


JAD said:
No problem here with MPG,AVI capture, but i have the 'WDM inf not installed'
error My remote needed to be reinstalled, the buttons default config for
"TV in focus" was gone.........Going to see now if the ..power management
problem is gone....screen blank only and no TV untill reboot problem.


Nevada Jack said:
Beg your pardon...MMC does freeze up when I use the MMC Player to play the
AVI Capture file. Same AVI file plays fine in MS Media 9 player.

Guess I will reload in the old fashion way, although I do not use MMC
usually to playback anything...have preference set to Media Player 9.

Jack


Nevada Jack said:
Just performed the "stress test" you mentioned and no problems
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capturing
or
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PM problem is still present UG!

JAD said:
No problem here with MPG,AVI capture, but i have the 'WDM inf not installed'
error My remote needed to be reinstalled, the buttons default config for
"TV in focus" was gone.........Going to see now if the ..power management
problem is gone....screen blank only and no TV untill reboot problem.


Nevada Jack said:
Beg your pardon...MMC does freeze up when I use the MMC Player to play the
AVI Capture file. Same AVI file plays fine in MS Media 9 player.

Guess I will reload in the old fashion way, although I do not use MMC
usually to playback anything...have preference set to Media Player 9.

Jack


Nevada Jack said:
Just performed the "stress test" you mentioned and no problems
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capturing
or
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sorry should have elaborated : all is well with capture- TV / playback on
ATI mmc(fileplayer)

Nevada Jack said:
Not a problem with the AVI Capture but with playing it back on the ATI
Player.

Jack
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No
I did the same thing and it worked well also. Why did it take the ATI fools
this long to think of this--the single download/installer? Either there's
some obscure motivation that isn't apparent, or they're massively
incompetent. But judging by the way MMC "works", I'd say the latter.
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The reason is because, until recently, most folks had dial-up access and
couldn't stay on long enough to get the whole 16MB file at once. The number
of DSL/Cable users has reached critical mass and so you'll find more and
more sites are going to cater to us.

Tom Lake
 
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