can't view video - please help

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PCR wrote:
| N. Miller wrote:
|| On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:11:23 -0500, PCR wrote:
||
||> Adam wrote:
||
||>| Anyone know what I need to do in order to view the following video
||>| ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm
||>|
||>| It just spins in a circle for me.
||
||> I get a message...
||>
||> "A script in this movie is causing Adobe Flash Player 9 to run
||> slowly. If it continues to run, your computer may become
||> unresponsive. Do you want to abort the script?"
||>
||> If I click "yes", it will just spin the circle. If I click "no",
||> Kerio Firewall puts up a message...!...
||>
||> "'Internet Explorer' from your computer wants to connect to
||> 96.17.106.12, port 1935"
||>
||> Kerio asks for permission, but, before I can answer-- Flash crashes!
||> Here is the DrWatson report...!...
||
|| <Dr. Watson report redacted>
||
||> I don't like a site that causes Kerio to ask permission! The ARIN
||> WHOIS report on 96.17.106.12 is...
||>
||> OrgName: Akamai Technologies
||> OrgID: AKAMAI
||
|| Akamai runs a number of localized content server farms. Very useful
|| for companies who don't want to maintain their own bandwidth. Pay
|| Akamai for just the bandwidth that they need at any given time, and
|| Akami puts the content on regional server farms. You get the content
|| from the closest farm to you.
|
| I suspected Akamai was legit when the first Google page on it said
| nothing of nasty doings. Thanks for the detail about what it is used
| for. Sounds like -- legit as it may be -- it can be put to ill use
| depending on the content a site has uploaded to it. But a nasty site I
| guess can do its dirty work with or without making use of Akamai for
| storage/transmission. But I'm STILL not sure I like connecting to one
| site-- & having IT connect me to another!
|
|| Kerio asks permission because you aren't going to the host site, but
|| to a localized mirror. That is not a weakness in the site, but the
|| strength of Kerio; it only trusts IP addresses you specify. For load
|| balancing servers, as run by Akamai, you really have no choice. Trust
|| the entire Akamai server farm, or forget about using sites which
|| prefer to pay less for scalable bandwidth service from Akamai than
|| for dedicated bandwidth of their own.
|
| I've sworn to MEB & others to someday fully understand my Kerio rules.
| However, I've got to do my taxes soon & that day must continue to
| wait. As far as IE, the only rule I've got that specifically mentions
| it is...
|
| Protocol: TCP
| Direction: Outgoing
| Local Endpoint
| Port Type: Any port
| Application: c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe
| Remote Endpoint
| Address Type: Any address
| Port Type: Single port
| Port number: 80
| Rule Valid: Always
| Action: Permit
| Log when rule matches: Checked
| Display an alert: Unchecked
|
| I believe that is the rule that allows me to use FTP type sites. I
| suppose, if Akamai had used its port 80 instead of port 1935, it could
| have had its will with my IE, also supposing it was using the TCP
| protocol. (I didn't notice which protocol was attempted.)

The protocol attempted indeed was TCP. This time I had time to permit
the connection to Akamai-- but Flash Player quickly crashed just the
same. I will try the new version of the player as suggested elsewhere.
But if these things are going to play as slow as they do on my Dial-Up
46666 bps connection-- it probably isn't worth it anyhow!


|| --
|| Norman
|| ~Shine, bright morning light,
|| ~now in the air the spring is coming.
|| ~Sweet, blowing wind,
|| ~singing down the hills and valleys.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
 
PCR wrote:
| Rick Chauvin wrote:
|| ||
|| [....]
||> ... But mine -- Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r124 --
||> I think is as high as I can go.
|| [...]
||
|| Actually it's 151 now (v9.0.151.0)
||
|
http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Adobe-releases-Flash-Player-9-0-151-0-after-all--/news/111902
||
|| or
||
|| http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb08-24.html
||
|| or
||
|| offline install download page for direct downloads
||
|
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb406791&sliceId=1
||
|| Here's the Direct Download for us IE users
|| v9.0.151.0 (today anyway)
||
|
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/installers/current/9/install_flash_player_9_ax.exe
|
| Alright. I'll take this shortly, if it will come. Thanks. Last I
| looked, the highest for my Win98SE was the one I've got.
|
|| At a quick glance I see the release notes says it's even v9.0.152.0
|| now, but downloads as 151.. hmmm, well, anyway even though you use in
|| on W98SE, I still prefer to use the v9 series on WXPro as well
||
|| Adams flash link works fine here,
|
| Well-- maybe the newer version is necessary, then.

Update: I'm sure there was a benifit to taking the newer version for
safety reasons. However, it is no cure at the BBC site...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm

Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r151 attempted to execute an invalid
instruction.

Module Name: FLASH9G.OCX
Description: Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r151
Version: 9,0,151,0
Product: Shockwave Flash
Manufacturer: Adobe Systems, Inc.

Application Name: Iexplore.exe
Description: Internet Explorer
Version: 6.00.2800.1106
Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

The other site...
....continues to work-- but slow as before on my Dial-Up 50,666 bps!

|| but don't forget in the trusted zone
|| settings, both ActiveX and Scripts need to be enabled.
|
| I have no trusted sites. In the Internet Zone...
|
| ActiveX
| Download signed ActiveX controls................ Prompt
| Download unsigned signed ActiveX controls.. Disable
| Init & script ActiveX controls not marked as safe.. Disable
| Run ActiveX controls & plugins...................... Enable
| Script ActiveX controls marked safe for scripting.. Enable
|
| Scripting
| Active Scripting............................ Enable
| Allow paste operations via script... Enable
| Scripting of Java applets............... Enable
|
| I think my settings are fine, because the one Bill posted...
|
|
| ...which, I guess, is the same video, does begin to work. It's so
| slow -- looking more like still images -- that I grew too impatient to
| see whether eventually it would crash. After clicking for "high
| quality", indeed it did crash-- but differently! DrWatson was unable
| to trap it. It was a crash of IE-- not of Flash Player!
|
|| Rick
||
||>
||>
||> --
||> Thanks or Good Luck,
||> There may be humor in this post, and,
||> Naturally, you will not sue,
||> Should things get worse after this,
||> PCR
||> (e-mail address removed)
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
 
PCR said:
Bill wrote:
| |> Adam wrote:
|> | |> |> Adam wrote:
|> |> | Anyone know what I need to do in order to view the following
|> |> | video ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm
|> |> |
|> |> | It just spins in a circle for me.
|> |>
|> |> I get a message...
|> |>
|> |> "A script in this movie is causing Adobe Flash Player 9 to run
|> |> slowly. If it continues to run, your computer may become
|> |> unresponsive. Do you want to abort the script?"
|> |>
|> |> If I click "yes", it will just spin the circle. If I click "no",
|> |> Kerio Firewall puts up a message...!...
|> |>
|> |> "'Internet Explorer' from your computer wants to connect to
|> |> 96.17.106.12, port 1935"
|> |>
|> |> Kerio asks for permission, but, before I can answer-- Flash
|> |> crashes! Here is the DrWatson report...!...
|> |>
|> |> "Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r124 attempted to execute an invalid
|> |> instruction.
|> |>
|> |> Module Name: FLASH9F.OCX
|> |> Description: Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r124
|> |> Version: 9,0,124,0
|> |> Product: Shockwave Flash
|> |> Manufacturer: Adobe Systems, Inc.
|> |>
|> |> Application Name: Iexplore.exe
|> |> Description: Internet Explorer
|> |> Version: 6.00.2800.1106
|> |> Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
|> |> Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation"
|> |>
|> |> I don't like a site that causes Kerio to ask permission! The ARIN
|> |> WHOIS report on 96.17.106.12 is...
|> |>
|> |> OrgName: Akamai Technologies
|> |> OrgID: AKAMAI
|> |> Address: 8 Cambridge Center
|> |> City: Cambridge
|> |> StateProv: MA
|> |> PostalCode: 02142
|> |> Country: US
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> (e-mail address removed)
|> |>
|> |
|> |
|> | It turns out that pretending to shutdown ZoneAlarm worked for
|> | only a very brief period. It does not work consistently.
|> | I don't understand it. Adobe Flash Player can be troublesome.
|> | Youtube seems better.
|>
|> There seems to be two things going on at...
|> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm
|>
|> It causes firewall squawking, & it has a Flash Player script that is
|> bad enough to crash Flash. I think the site is poorly written or
|> expects a higher Flash Player version. But mine -- Adobe Flash
|> Player 9.0 r124 -- I think is as high as I can go.
|>
|> The squawking is related to...
|> http://www.akamai.com/
|> Just clicking that link causes Kerio to ask permission...!...
|>
|> 'Internet Explorer' from your computer wants to connect to
|> 96.17.106.39, port 1935
|>
|> The site seems to work anyhow after denying it. I think it's
|> probably a legit site-- but I don't like it!
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> (e-mail address removed)
|>
|
|
| Flash can be a pain in the neck. I like it hassle-free ...
|

That video (which I suppose is the same one) does begin to work without
any Flash Player message or Kerio warning. It is very slow on this
Compaq 7470 with Win98SE-- more like a series of still images of Big
Ben! After a few moments, I clicked for "high quality". Then it crashed
to the IE Report Tool. I did not send the report.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
Click to expand...

Yes, it's the same video as far as I can tell.
I have DSL so speed is not a problem, except for "high quality".
If you're using dial-up, speed might be icky.
 
[....]
I have no trusted sites. In the Internet Zone...
Click to expand...

I meant of course using the Trusted Zone ability which is added by
MS's own PowerTweaks install, for its convenience of adding websites to it
with one click, otherwise all else is in the Internet Zone where things are
set very strict. You know all that though.
ActiveX
Download signed ActiveX controls................ Prompt
Download unsigned signed ActiveX controls.. Disable
Init & script ActiveX controls not marked as safe.. Disable
Run ActiveX controls & plugins...................... Enable
Script ActiveX controls marked safe for scripting.. Enable

Scripting
Active Scripting............................ Enable
Allow paste operations via script... Enable
Scripting of Java applets............... Enable
Click to expand...


Yep, that's how mine is set for all the sites put in the Trusted Zone.

That bbc link Adam posted works fine for me but on XP and I've not tried
SE. It's a 20 mb file at low quality or 70 mb in high quality, and so of
course it's not practical to watch it with dialup.

You can download the video file itself, or cop it out of your TIF folder,
or use a get_video... program, etc, etc.

Your You Tube link works for me too, but again it's a very large download
on HQ so on slow connections it takes a LOT of time to cache it.

Okay, just wanted to pop in, thanks, bye now.

Rick

[....]
 
Rick Chauvin wrote:
| |
| [....]
|
|> I have no trusted sites. In the Internet Zone...
|
| I meant of course using the Trusted Zone ability which is added by
| MS's own PowerTweaks install, for its convenience of adding websites
| to it with one click, otherwise all else is in the Internet Zone
| where things are set very strict. You know all that though.
|
|> ActiveX
|> Download signed ActiveX controls................ Prompt
|> Download unsigned signed ActiveX controls.. Disable
|> Init & script ActiveX controls not marked as safe.. Disable
|> Run ActiveX controls & plugins...................... Enable
|> Script ActiveX controls marked safe for scripting.. Enable
|>
|> Scripting
|> Active Scripting............................ Enable
|> Allow paste operations via script... Enable
|> Scripting of Java applets............... Enable
|
|
| Yep, that's how mine is set for all the sites put in the Trusted Zone.

OK. I thought that was fine. Of course, avast! will scan all the TIFs
coming in. So, I feel I am safe enough set like that in the Internet
Zone.

| That bbc link Adam posted works fine for me but on XP and I've not
| tried SE.

My belief is it won't work on SE with IE. MM got it to work with
Firefox.

| It's a 20 mb file at low quality or 70 mb in high quality,
| and so of course it's not practical to watch it with dialup.

I guess. Yet, some videos on some sites do work well enough to watch--
or, at least, that's how I recall it. Haven't seen a watchable one in
quite a while, though-- but I don't really go looking for them. Yea,
that's right, if I can find/get one out of TIFs, it works really nice.

| You can download the video file itself, or cop it out of your TIF
| folder, or use a get_video... program, etc, etc.
|
| Your You Tube link works for me too, but again it's a very large
| download on HQ so on slow connections it takes a LOT of time to cache
| it.
|
| Okay, just wanted to pop in, thanks, bye now.

All right. I'm sure the security adjustments of v.151 made all of this
worthwhile for me. Thanks to you, Chauvin.

| Rick
|
| [....]
|> I think my settings are fine, because the one Bill posted...
|>
|>
|> ...which, I guess, is the same video, does begin to work. It's so
|> slow -- looking more like still images -- that I grew too impatient
|> to see whether eventually it would crash. After clicking for "high
|> quality", indeed it did crash-- but differently! DrWatson was unable
|> to trap it. It was a crash of IE-- not of Flash Player!
|
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> (e-mail address removed)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
 
Bill wrote:
| |> Bill wrote:
|> | |> |> Adam wrote:
|> |> | |> |> |> Adam wrote:
|> |> |> | Anyone know what I need to do in order to view the following
|> |> |> | video ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | It just spins in a circle for me.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I get a message...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "A script in this movie is causing Adobe Flash Player 9 to run
|> |> |> slowly. If it continues to run, your computer may become
|> |> |> unresponsive. Do you want to abort the script?"
|> |> |>
|> |> |> If I click "yes", it will just spin the circle. If I click
|> |> |> "no", Kerio Firewall puts up a message...!...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "'Internet Explorer' from your computer wants to connect to
|> |> |> 96.17.106.12, port 1935"
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Kerio asks for permission, but, before I can answer-- Flash
|> |> |> crashes! Here is the DrWatson report...!...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r124 attempted to execute an invalid
|> |> |> instruction.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Module Name: FLASH9F.OCX
|> |> |> Description: Adobe Flash Player 9.0 r124
|> |> |> Version: 9,0,124,0
|> |> |> Product: Shockwave Flash
|> |> |> Manufacturer: Adobe Systems, Inc.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Application Name: Iexplore.exe
|> |> |> Description: Internet Explorer
|> |> |> Version: 6.00.2800.1106
|> |> |> Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
|> |> |> Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation"
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I don't like a site that causes Kerio to ask permission! The
|> |> |> ARIN WHOIS report on 96.17.106.12 is...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> OrgName: Akamai Technologies
|> |> |> OrgID: AKAMAI
|> |> |> Address: 8 Cambridge Center
|> |> |> City: Cambridge
|> |> |> StateProv: MA
|> |> |> PostalCode: 02142
|> |> |> Country: US
|> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> (e-mail address removed)
|> |> |>
|> |> |
|> |> |
|> |> | It turns out that pretending to shutdown ZoneAlarm worked for
|> |> | only a very brief period. It does not work consistently.
|> |> | I don't understand it. Adobe Flash Player can be troublesome.
|> |> | Youtube seems better.
|> |>
|> |> There seems to be two things going on at...
|> |> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7806756.stm
|> |>
|> |> It causes firewall squawking, & it has a Flash Player script that
|> |> is bad enough to crash Flash. I think the site is poorly written
|> |> or expects a higher Flash Player version. But mine -- Adobe Flash
|> |> Player 9.0 r124 -- I think is as high as I can go.
|> |>
|> |> The squawking is related to...
|> |> http://www.akamai.com/
|> |> Just clicking that link causes Kerio to ask permission...!...
|> |>
|> |> 'Internet Explorer' from your computer wants to connect to
|> |> 96.17.106.39, port 1935
|> |>
|> |> The site seems to work anyhow after denying it. I think it's
|> |> probably a legit site-- but I don't like it!
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> (e-mail address removed)
|> |>
|> |
|> |
|> | Flash can be a pain in the neck. I like it hassle-free ...
|> |
|>
|> That video (which I suppose is the same one) does begin to work
|> without any Flash Player message or Kerio warning. It is very slow
|> on this Compaq 7470 with Win98SE-- more like a series of still
|> images of Big Ben! After a few moments, I clicked for "high
|> quality". Then it crashed to the IE Report Tool. I did not send the
|> report.
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> (e-mail address removed)
|>
|
| Yes, it's the same video as far as I can tell.
| I have DSL so speed is not a problem, except for "high quality".
| If you're using dial-up, speed might be icky.

Yep-- pretty icky. But at least that one will only drive me nuts for
being slow instead of for crashing! It's probably the same video but
rendered in a different version of Flash Player.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
 
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