Canon ip4200 Compatible Carts -any good?

[BD]

This is a cult of refillers and generic ink users that will give you
biased information.

Whooa - whoaa - BWAAAAAAAAA-HAAAAAAAA-HAAAAAAAAA!

(envision uncontrollable laughter that can be heard for half a mile and
causes small burrowing animals in the surrounding farmland to scurry
into their burrows)

Oh God, lemme wipe the tears away - Milquetoast is actually accusing
someone ELSE of providing biased information. Ahhh, I love it.

You slay me. You really do... ;-))))

 

[Stick Stickus]

You never know what you are buying with generic ink cause the relabelers
do not want to disclose that information. Refilling is very messy and
inconvenient. If you do your counters will not work properly and it can
cause you to burn the printhead.

Once again you are responding regarding something you have NO experience
with, other than out of date magazine reviews and the odd problem reported
in this ng.
When you have actually refilled a cartridge THEN and only THEN can you make
such a comment, if such a comment is warrented.
With regard to the content of, and, who supplies the ink for oems, THEY do
not say, so you do not know if you are getting the same content and make up
either.
Not long ago a whole range of oem cartridges were recalled to due incorrect
formulation which resulted in clogging, so it is not only third party
supplies who have problems, this has also happened with laser toner.

Any cartridge that is drained out can cause nozzles to burn out, this
includes HP 15, 45, 17, 23, 41 and 78 cartridges. This can happen in those
HP printers that do not show an ink status monitor, and I am referring to
OEM cartridges NOT refills!

This is a cult of refillers and generic ink users that will give you
biased information.

And your information is not biased! Your information is far more biased that
those refillers who frequent this ng. At least they are prepared to admit
when they are wrong.

 

[zakezuke]

You never know what you are buying with generic ink cause the relabelers
do not want to disclose that information. Refilling is very messy and
inconvenient. If you do your counters will not work properly and it can
cause you to burn the printhead.

Buying offical Image-Specalists or Formulabs ink is not a problem.
Never has been a problem.

Refilling can be somewhat messy but given the cost savings is 70% to
90% it's not a big deal. Manual refilling is faster than a drive to
costco. The risk of mess can be reduced by putting down a piece of tin
foil, and wearing a glove.

Using aftermarket ink could affect the life of your printhead, but in
Canon the offical life is about 10 cartridge changes, others have said
they swapped out the cartridge 20 times. You can expect more than 10
cartridge changes from Image Specalists ink. I've seen it. I'll see
about Hobbicolors soon enough. Tossing your printer after the second
refill and buying a new one is cheaper than buying OEM ink by far.

Given current generation canon printers cost between $80 to $150, and
OEM ink costs US$72 plus tax. When you take tax into account, expect
OEM ink to run you $70 to $80. So the printer costs you, less ink,
$0.00 to $30.00 if talking the ip4200, or $40 to $60 for the ip5200. A
hobbicolors kit costs you about $22 when taking shipping to account as
is good for 4 refills. You save $50 from the get go, you save $216
when done with the kit.

A user may want OEM ink, and that's OK. But as Measekite has pointed
out in the past, you save enough money to have a pizza once a month and
send your kid to prom. Heavy users save this much in a year, more
casual users save this much in a few years.

 

[Ron P]

I have never used compatible cartridges for refilling. I have only used OEM
cartridges for this purposes after they have run out of ink. One note
though about the messages that you will get from the Ink Status Monitor.
First, when the cartridges are running low you will get a message to that
effect. After the cartridge runs out you will be informed that the cartridge
has run out of ink. After refilling the cartridge and having re-installed
it, you will get a message about the cartridge being empty. To commence
printing just press the Resume button on your printer and you will be able
to print.

If you don't like the Status Monitor popping up with every print job, just
turn the thing off...the option is under one of the Status Monitor Menus.

 

[measekite]

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Any cartridge that is drained out can cause nozzles to burn out, this
includes HP 15, 45, 17, 23, 41 and 78 cartridges. This can happen in those
HP printers that do not show an ink status monitor, and I am referring to
OEM cartridges NOT refills!

I have been using HP45 and HP78 for years and have had only 1 problem
where I had to exchange the cart. I run them totally dry and then toss
them and get a new one with a new integrated printhead.

 

[Stick Stickus]

I have been using HP45 and HP78 for years and have had only 1 problem
where I had to exchange the cart. I run them totally dry and then toss
them and get a new one with a new integrated printhead.

So you are also not helping the world's ecology, at least that is a plus
point for the refillers!
Inkjet cartridges take a minimum of 450 years to degrade and it is still not
sure how much longer than that, there are also toxins from the cartridges
left in landfills!
But then, as with many other views you have shown in this news group, I
doubt if that will bother you much!

 

[zakezuke]

So you are also not helping the world's ecology, at least that is a plus
point for the refillers!

But he uses auto duplex mode in order to save the trees. He swares by
it. Saving the enviroment is very important to him, except for
tossing the ink cartridges. It's a tad hypocritical.... it leads one
to believe that he could care less about the enviroment.

Inkjet cartridges take a minimum of 450 years to degrade and it is still not
sure how much longer than that, there are also toxins from the cartridges
left in landfills!

It's even worse for HP cartridges which in the past used heavy metals
such as lead.