Canon ip4200 Compatible Carts -any good?

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GinsterPastyMan

Hi,

I have seen many sites on ebay selling compatible cartridges for ip4200
printers - with the proviso that you still need the oem chip to make it work
and you physically have to extract the chip yourself and stick it on the
compat cart.

Has anyone actually used these successfully? - how easy was it to move the
chip over? - and does it look like it is easy to continue to swop the chips
across in the long term?? AND was the ink any good on printing??

Although I can refill myself - sometimes its just easier to get a ready
filled one out of a box - and not worry about making a mess!!

Thanks.
 
GinsterPastyMan said:
Hi,

I have seen many sites on ebay selling compatible cartridges for ip4200
printers - with the proviso that you still need the oem chip to make it work
and you physically have to extract the chip yourself and stick it on the
compat cart.
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i woud not buy anything on ebay and there are really no branded generic
carts for the printer. the generic ink fades quicker and has a higher
risk of clogging plus you do not know what ink is in them and the
relabeler will not tell you.
Has anyone actually used these successfully?
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nobody can tell you the answer to that question because the question is
a moving target. since you do not know what a relabler is selling you
and you cannot tell when they change their suppliers you cannot rely on
anybody claiming success from a relabeler since you cannot tell if that
relabeler is selling the excact same batch from the exact same filler as
the person who claimed success. you also do not know who is claiming
what and what their standards are in so far as fading. quality results
and even minor clogging issues.
- how easy was it to move the
chip over?
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now you are looking for even more trouble. it is possible this could
void your warranty. let say you do this and get a clog and canon
determines the ink caused the clog or you burned out the head due to
running it dry and they determine you dissabled (moved the chip) and
modified the printer.
- and does it look like it is easy to continue to swop the chips
across in the long term?? AND was the ink any good on printing??

Although I can refill myself - sometimes its just easier to get a ready
filled one out of a box - and not worry about making a mess!!
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that is one thing i agreee with. refilling is a pain, a nusiance, is
inconvention and very messy.
 
Has anyone actually used these successfully?

The question is NOT a moving target.

Pasty - please take the time to peruse more of measekite's posts before
making up your mind, or attempt to elicit additional responses.

measekite is a broken record, and will always say exactly the same
thing, without qualification. Biased, non-impartial opinions like
his/hers are of extremely limited value, and are not representative of
the overall state of things.

There are _several_ people in this group who have made this process
work. Please take some time to review the group's archives.

For a good laugh, go back and read a few more of measekite's posts. It
really is entertaining, in a sad kind of way.
 
BD said:
For a good laugh, go back and read a few more of measekite's posts. It
really is entertaining, in a sad kind of way.
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Your right. I just read over some of his previous post. This guy is a
loser...OH MY GOD. The last few of his post where just plain stupid. Is
he deliberately trying to scam people on this forum?

He has more than 5500 post in 1 year. Is that all he does....live on
this forum. Man...this loser needs a life....BBBBAAAADDDD.

You should read some of his post...it HILARIOUS!!!!
 
You should read some of his post...it HILARIOUS!!!!
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Oh, I've read many. Yeah, hilarious to a point... and then it's just
damned freakish.

Look at some posts from 'Taliesyn' on the topic; they're far more
enlightened and fair-minded.

I myself recently bought both a 4000 and a 5000. I haven't received
them yet. I won't have to deal with the chips, which is why I chose to
pay kind of a premium for the (new) 4000 (the 5000 was used and I got
it for a song; don't even really care about the risk that it will show
up doa). But, I fully intend to explore the refill game. I've been
holding on to an Epson 777 for yeeeears, _just_ because it's cheap to
maintain. My hope is that I'll get better quality, and more
functionality (borderless, disc printing), without feeling like I've
been eviscerated every time I refill the thing.

;-)
 
BD said:
The question is NOT a moving target.

Pasty - please take the time to peruse more of measekite's posts before
making up your mind, or attempt to elicit additional responses.

measekite is a broken record, and will always say exactly the same
thing, without qualification. Biased, non-impartial opinions like
his/hers are of extremely limited value, and are not representative of
the overall state of things.

There are _several_ people in this group who have made this process
work. Please take some time to review the group's archives.

For a good laugh, go back and read a few more of measekite's posts. It
really is entertaining, in a sad kind of way.
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ffs why even refer to measekite and fuel his continued posts. Just answer
the OP's question
 
I think he should take the time to peruse more posts of all the people
who posted printer problems and find out if they did NOT use factory
recommended inks. Furthermore he should read the reposts in PCWorld,
www.wilhelm.com, pc magazine, and consumer reports.

Then he should try to figure out who posts what about generic inks who
is either an employee, owner, or has some interest in the relabelers.

because it is true and there are posters who do not want this truth to
reach people like you.

Oh yes they are. They are representative of a Canon and HP user who has
never had a printer problem in over 10 years. Now there must be a
reason for that.

they are a few users who have a very heavy printload (some deny it) and
are willing to settle for increased fading or reduced quality. One of
them finally admitted that yes the oems have better quality and yes the
oem ink will fade less but they do not want to spend what it takes to
get the best.
 
ffs why even refer to measekite and fuel his continued posts. Just answer
the OP's question
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I told him to read Taliesyn's posts, because they'd likely be helpful.
If I don't have the answers, I won't pull shit out of my ass, and I
won't just 'stand by' and let someone be duped by shit that definitely
won't be of any use.
 
GinsterPastyMan said:
Hi,

I have seen many sites on ebay selling compatible cartridges for ip4200
printers - with the proviso that you still need the oem chip to make it
work and you physically have to extract the chip yourself and stick it on
the compat cart.

Has anyone actually used these successfully? - how easy was it to move
the chip over? - and does it look like it is easy to continue to swop the
chips across in the long term?? AND was the ink any good on printing??

Although I can refill myself - sometimes its just easier to get a ready
filled one out of a box - and not worry about making a mess!!

Thanks.
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Sorry to see you've "met" our resident troll. To answer your question, I'm
not sure it would make sense to buy an aftermarket cart that needs a chip
transplanted to it. You still face the problem of the printer recognizing
the cart as having been used until empty. As far as I know, there are no
chip resetters on the market yet to cause the printer to identify a refilled
cart as a new full one. There are now some bulk inks that one can use to
refill these carts. That's what I would do. I presently have two previous
generation Canon printers with unchipped carts that I refill. Easy,
excellent ink, minimal mess, great photo prints.

It is best to have a backup set of carts so you can always have a full set
to change out for empties when necessary. Better to do this than pull a
cart out, refill it, and replace it. You don't want to leave a cart out of
the printhead for very long as the ink in the printhead can dry out. Oddly
enough, if you live in the US, you can find ip4200's on sale for not much
more than the cost of the ink that comes with it! I would consider buying a
second printer and put it aside as a spare for when the first one fails.
Use the ink carts that came with it as your second set to cycle alternately.
When the carts don't work properly after several refills you can rejuvinate
them by backflushing them. Look for that info on the Nifty-Stuff Forum if
you are interested. Good info there on refilling techniques.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
 
Your right. I just read over some of his previous post. This guy is a
loser...OH MY GOD. The last few of his post where just plain stupid. Is
he deliberately trying to scam people on this forum?

He has more than 5500 post in 1 year. Is that all he does....live on
this forum. Man...this loser needs a life....BBBBAAAADDDD.

You should read some of his post...it HILARIOUS!!!!
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You should not listen to measkite, as you do not know what you are getting.
Who is he? He doesn't post his real name. You don't know his experience or
qualifications. Based upon his posts, you likely cannot trust anything he
says. In short, you do not know what you are getting.

Trust "branded" posters rather than noname ones.
 
As far a I know removing the chip from an empty cartridge and fixing it to a
refilled cartridge will make no difference. It will still show as empty. The
printers ink usage is regulated by the chip. You can however, refill or have
the cartridges refilled. Well known, reliable quality inks can be got from
Hobbicolor and MIS for you to refill yourself. Cartridge World offers a
refilling service which although would cost more that refilling your self
would leave you with no effort and a warranty as well. I think you will find
chip resetters start to appear either on the retail market or at refillers
within three months. The chip used has proven to difficult to backward
research but the end result should not be long now (at least in the UK).
 
Furthermore he should read the reposts in PCWorld,
www.wilhelm.com, pc magazine, and consumer reports.
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HEY!!! SH*TFORBRAINS!!! THAT SITE LINKS TO A PICTURE OF A GUY ON A
MOUNTAIN BIKE! I TOLD YOU THAT LAST WEEK!

Wake up, will you please? The correct link is
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/!!

F*ck. I have SO had enough of stupid people these days.

Sorry, group. My fuse is unusually short right now, but some people are
just so patently stupid they truly beg to be smacked.

Ugh.
 
Mmmm ... as helpful as 3 pairs of balls to the Pope.

Whatever. YMMV. Better than the bile that Milquetoast spews out, that's
for sure.
 
BD said:
Whatever. YMMV. Better than the bile that Milquetoast spews out, that's
for sure.
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Taliesyn's posts have goo, honest info from his years of experience with
refilling carts, as well as having used several different brands and models
of printers. He is also helpful to participants regarding what products are
available in Canada. The only person who has been critical of him in the
past is MK.
 
Burt said:
Taliesyn's posts have goo, honest info from his years of experience with
refilling carts, as well as having used several different brands and
models of printers. He is also helpful to participants regarding what
products are available in Canada. The only person who has been critical
of him in the past is MK.
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editing my own post - Taliesyn's posts have GOOD, honest info ..... sorry
for the goofy typo!
 
editing my own post - Taliesyn's posts have GOOD, honest info ..... sorry
for the goofy typo!
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I'm just glad you didn't inadvertently hit 'Post' just after typing the
word 'goo'...

Furrowed brows would have been numerous.
 
Stick said:
As far a I know removing the chip from an empty cartridge and fixing it to a
refilled cartridge will make no difference. It will still show as empty. The
printers ink usage is regulated by the chip. You can however, refill or have
the cartridges refilled. Well known, reliable quality inks can be got from
Hobbicolor and MIS for you to refill yourself. Cartridge World offers a
refilling service which although would cost more that refilling your self
would leave you with no effort and a warranty as well. I think you will find
chip resetters start to appear either on the retail market or at refillers
within three months. The chip used has proven to difficult to backward
research but the end result should not be long now (at least in the UK).
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There's been some rumours but nothing actually concrete on replacement
chips and when pushed many advertising "coming soon" are not able to
give a date so I wouldn't bet on anything for closer to 5 months but you
never know.

As for the "compatibles", personally I would recommend you go for
refilling your original cartridges instead. It's really not hard to do
and simply requires a little reading and time spent learning to get the
necessary tips.

Nifty-stuff has already been mentioned and has a plethora of information
on refilling so it's well worth it.. There's also plenty of non-troll
information and advice on suppliers..

I'd recommend my own supplier for iP4200 inks but they only sell in bulk
which I suspect would be overkill so best of luck with it and ignore the
troll and the anti-troll cr*p too..
 
Martin said:
There's been some rumours but nothing actually concrete on replacement
chips and when pushed many advertising "coming soon" are not able to
give a date so I wouldn't bet on anything for closer to 5 months but
you never know.

As for the "compatibles", personally I would recommend you go for
refilling your original cartridges instead. It's really not hard to do
and simply requires a little reading and time spent learning to get
the necessary tips.
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You never know what you are buying with generic ink cause the relabelers
do not want to disclose that information. Refilling is very messy and
inconvenient. If you do your counters will not work properly and it can
cause you to burn the printhead.
Nifty-stuff has already been mentioned and has a plethora of
information on refilling so it's well worth it.. There's also plenty
of non-troll information and advice on suppliers..
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This is a cult of refillers and generic ink users that will give you
biased information.
 
Refilling is very messy and inconvenient.

It is not messy if you are not suffering from persistent tremors and
elect to simply LEARN how to do it... you are not speaking for the
LARGE MASSES of people who find it completely convenient, and have
learned to not squirt the ink up their nose when carrying out the
refilling process.

You desperately need new schtick.
 
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