canon i850 - i865 printhead cost

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george said:
Does anybody has an idea of the printhead cost?

Ps: These 2 heads are different

Why? - the "I" series print heads are designed to last the life of the
printer.

-Taliesyn
 
george said:
Nothing lasts for ever. And specially the thermal printheads

I don't want to keep my printer "for ever". I don't want to grow
old and obsolete along with it.

Print heads are the least of my worries as I usually change printers
every 2 to 3 years when something newer, better and faster comes out.
I don't buy the best, can't afford it. The modest is just fine for
my use. Thus, for me, "the life of the printer" is somewhat misleading.
But that's what Canon has indicated.

-Taliesyn
 
Do you think that the printhead will last for 2 years using bulk ink?
Has anybody tried to refill for at least 10 times every cart?
 
Do you think that the printhead will last for 2 years using bulk ink?
Has anybody tried to refill for at least 10 times every cart?
 
george said:
Do you think that the printhead will last for 2 years using bulk ink?

It's not just any "universal" bulk ink, it's atlanticinkjet.com ink,
ink specifically made for printers using BCI-3e carts.

Did you think made Canon made their own ink? As far as I know Canon
buys their inks from major suppliers of commercial printing inks, just
like all the other printer makers.
Has anybody tried to refill for at least 10 times every cart?

Six... eight... ten. At the moment I'm still working on two. But I'll be
happy with six. I may get the lower amount because I'm alternating two
complete sets of Canon orig. carts. The sponges may simply die of old
age first.

But I'm definitely not concerned or worried about the "mileage" I'll be
or not be getting. And I'm not worried about my print head. No one here
has reported any problems so far.

-Taliesyn
 
It's not just any "universal" bulk ink, it's atlanticinkjet.com ink,
ink specifically made for printers using BCI-3e carts.

Did you think made Canon made their own ink? As far as I know Canon
buys their inks from major suppliers of commercial printing inks, just
like all the other printer makers.


Six... eight... ten. At the moment I'm still working on two. But I'll be
happy with six. I may get the lower amount because I'm alternating two
complete sets of Canon orig. carts. The sponges may simply die of old
age first.

But I'm definitely not concerned or worried about the "mileage" I'll be
or not be getting. And I'm not worried about my print head. No one here
has reported any problems so far.

-Taliesyn

Currently on the 15th refill of photo-cyan and photo-magenta in a Canon i950 purchased in
early August. (Several hundred 8x10 and 8.5x11 prints and 350 5x7 prints) The other 4 colors
are running between 12 and 14 refills each. (I cant tell you how many refills Ive done on my
Canon S820 as I never counted, but its been running for a year using just less than a set of
carts a week).

No degradation in the print quality that I can see. However, if this printer (the i950) quits
tomorrow (or today for that matter) it owes me NOTHING. I get $10 (US) for an 8x10 and $8.00
(US) for a 5x7, and I have sold 90% of everything printed with this printer.

I would call the i950 an unqualified bargain at $249.00 (the price I paid for it)

The ink used (except for the initial ink of course) is from MIS Assosiates
(www.inksupply.com)

I am rotating through 4 sets of carts... all but the original factory packed set were
purchased EMPTY from MIS Assosiates and filled with MIS inks.

Since I have never refilled a Canon cartridge of any type with ink from any source other than
MIS, you may feel free to consider this information anecdotal.

Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.
 
I thought they did (at least Canon, and Epson).

If they don't, how can we find out who really makes the ink Canon use as
genuine and buy it bulk, No speculation on who makes it though.

Taliesyn said:
george wrote: ....
Did you think made Canon made their own ink? As far as I know Canon
buys their inks from major suppliers of commercial printing inks, just
like all the other printer makers.
....
 
GB said:
I thought they did (at least Canon, and Epson).

If they don't, how can we find out who really makes the ink Canon use as
genuine and buy it bulk, No speculation on who makes it though.

Whoever makes it would most likely not be able to sell the exact formula
on the side because of legal arrangement with the "Big 4". However, all
they would have to do is modify it ever so slightly and still stay legal
- at least as I see it. I use ink from atlanticinkjet.com, and it seems
to be a spitting image of Canon inks. So who knows where Atlantic gets
it from.

Don't know if it's true (so don't take it as fact), but I thought I read
somewhere that Formulabs was rumored to be making ink for two of the majors.

-Taliesyn
 
i called canon today and asked for these 2 printheads.They told that there
are no spears in case of damage.So why i sould buy this printer?
Why canon doesn't have these printheads?
I don't understand.I think that i will remain with my 5 YO epson 750 for at
least 2-3 months until the things get clear.
 
george said:
i called canon today and asked for these 2 printheads.They told that there
are no spears in case of damage.So why i sould buy this printer?
Why canon doesn't have these printheads?

Now I've heard everything... trying to buy a spare print head before he
even buys the printer!

They have the print heads but will not sell them to you because all the
print heads for these models are still under warranty (they're less than
a year old). They will send you a new print head if your current one
dies under warranty. After that, well, you can buy them to your heart's
content... Keep a cupboard full if you need the security. ;-)

-Taliesyn
 
This is what they told me.If you don't like this discussion well it is
better not to reply at this post.
And if you have the money to buy every year a new printer well , good for
you.I don't want to spend my money buing printheads,Service and printers
every year.
I think that everybody would double check his choise before buing.

PS:when your printhead burn up send me a mail.
At the end is just a THERMAL head.
 
george said:
This is what they told me.If you don't like this discussion well it is
better not to reply at this post.
And if you have the money to buy every year a new printer well , good for
you.I don't want to spend my money buing printheads,Service and printers
every year.
I think that everybody would double check his choise before buing.

I think you should take a valium and relax, it's only a printer. I've
had 4 inkjet printers so far and no print head has ever died in the
line of duty - neither the permanent ones on my 2 Epsons and Canon or
the temporary ones on my Lexmark cartridges. My Canon i850 is under
warranty for a year - until March 2004. Canon will replace the print
head if it should die or go batty for some weird reason. After that, I
can buy a new print head from Canon. I do not buy your story that there
are no spare print heads available. They simply won't sell you one
unless you return your faulty one. And since you're not even a Canon
owner you can be sure they kissed you off.

Regardless of your desire to buy spare print heads, Canon has indicated
these new "i" series print heads were designed to last the 'life of the
printer'. And that's long enough for me and most normal people in this
newsgroup. If that isn't long enough for you then please buy a Lexmark
or an HP, they have new print heads on every cartridge you buy.
PS:when your printhead burn up send me a mail.
At the end is just a THERMAL head.

I doubt very much I want anything further to do with you and your
paranoia about print heads!

-Taliesyn
 
I really wouldn't be that concerned over a replacement printhead price. Back
when printers were pricey and reliability was questionable that concern
would have been totally justified. Now printers are inexpensive and
reliable. At least that holds true for Canon models. Once the printheads do
become available for public sale, I think you will find that buying one as a
spare part may cost nearly (maybe more) as much as a replacement printer.
Parts costs tend to remain high, whereas the street price of the entire
machine drops pretty quick. As an example, I purchased a Canon s820 last
November for $137.00 after discounts from Dell and a $50 rebate. At that
time the printer was selling most places in the range of $215 to $275
depending on the vendor. The suggested retail was $299.00. At the time
$137.00 was a steal. Since then I've purchased two more off eBay. One was
$55 and the other was $65. Both prices included shipping. I believe a new
printhead still costs over $80. For the $55 or $65 I spent, I got what was
called a refurbished machine, but both printers appear to be brand new and
never used. The ink tanks and printheads were still factory sealed. Just the
street price of the Canon ink tanks is more than what either of the two
printers off eBay cost, not to mention the printhead. BTW - both of the
printers I purchased off eBay were for gifts. The original s820 is still
going strong after many, many ink refills and a few thousand photos. From
what I've read, the "i" series printheads are even more reliable than the
"s" series. I'm now waiting for the i950 prices to drop like a rock as did
the s820 prices. That's the only way my s820 will be replaced.
 
Look this happened to a friend of mine.We called canon and told us that
there are no printheads available.The current head is blocked and my friend
bought and small Hp in order to do his job.
I don't know when will be available and don't know the price.I doesn't worth
buy i850 for 150$ and then in case of printhead damage pay more than 100$
for the head.
 
drc023 said:
I really wouldn't be that concerned over a replacement printhead price. Back
when printers were pricey and reliability was questionable that concern
would have been totally justified. Now printers are inexpensive and
reliable. At least that holds true for Canon models. Once the printheads do
become available for public sale, I think you will find that buying one as a
spare part may cost nearly (maybe more) as much as a replacement printer.
Parts costs tend to remain high, whereas the street price of the entire
machine drops pretty quick. As an example, I purchased a Canon s820 last
November for $137.00 after discounts from Dell and a $50 rebate. At that
time the printer was selling most places in the range of $215 to $275
depending on the vendor. The suggested retail was $299.00. At the time
$137.00 was a steal. Since then I've purchased two more off eBay. One was
$55 and the other was $65. Both prices included shipping. I believe a new
printhead still costs over $80. For the $55 or $65 I spent, I got what was
called a refurbished machine, but both printers appear to be brand new and
never used. The ink tanks and printheads were still factory sealed. Just the
street price of the Canon ink tanks is more than what either of the two
printers off eBay cost, not to mention the printhead. BTW - both of the
printers I purchased off eBay were for gifts. The original s820 is still
going strong after many, many ink refills and a few thousand photos. From
what I've read, the "i" series printheads are even more reliable than the
"s" series. I'm now waiting for the i950 prices to drop like a rock as did
the s820 prices. That's the only way my s820 will be replaced.
Ron;

When you finally get an i950 you wont BELIEVE how great it is...
everything the s series could do at 3 times (or more) the speed!

Larry Lynch
Mystic, CT
 
The i series are the best in the market.
buck said:
Ron;

When you finally get an i950 you wont BELIEVE how great it is...
everything the s series could do at 3 times (or more) the speed!

Larry Lynch
Mystic, CT
 
Look this happened to a friend of mine.We called canon and told us that
there are no printheads available.The current head is blocked and my friend
bought and small Hp in order to do his job.
I don't know when will be available and don't know the price.I doesn't worth
buy i850 for 150$ and then in case of printhead damage pay more than 100$
for the head.

If the head is "blocked" and cant be cleared, Canon will replace the
printer, its as simple as that.. Its not yet possible for the printer to
be out of warranty.
 
we'll call again next week.
The problem seems to be the refill ink.
But your 950 works perfect with the bulk ink right?
 
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