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...I've seen some of the EU proposals for Photography and cross EU
qualification.

I wasn't aware of them. Are they online anywhere?
I can understand why they want them when you get idiots like that.

As with many EU proposals, they're no doubt well intentioned but will
probably just make things harder for the jobbing photographer. It's
already becoming difficult for good professionals to earn a decent living
because people aren't prepared to pay what the job's really worth. Most
people can't tell the difference between a mediocre photograph and a good
one, anyway.

I was at a wedding yesterday and there was no official photographer. The
couple saved ~£1,500 or so by asking friends to take photographs. They'll
probably be happy with the majority of the snaps that people took with
compacts and even phones! Especially as they'll almost certainly just make
a computer slideshow with them, so resolution won't be such an issue. They
probably haven't even thought about their g-g-grandchildren not being able
to see them if the CD/DVD they store them on gets damaged and they lose
the lot.
You have a death wish? ;-)

No. Just a lack of diplomacy filter between brain and mouth. :-)
...a shop front often conveys legitimacy...

Well, it works for Tesco!

Jon.
 
I wasn't aware of them. Are they online anywhere?

Not that I know of, but you're welcome to try and find them on the EU
site if you have a couple of years spare ;-)

The proposals were about a range of arts/crafts and, for instance,
would mean that you supposedly had transferable skills across the EU.
The other side of that coin was that you couldn't set up as a
photographer anywhere in the EU *without* those qualifications except
insofar as your home country allows you to - so, for example, if you
wanted to go and be a photographer in Germany without the
"professional" qualification, you couldn't.
As with many EU proposals, they're no doubt well intentioned but will
probably just make things harder for the jobbing photographer. It's
already becoming difficult for good professionals to earn a decent living
because people aren't prepared to pay what the job's really worth. Most
people can't tell the difference between a mediocre photograph and a good
one, anyway.

Generally true unfortunately, though if you put a lot of mediocre ones
next to a good one, people often go "wow" when they get to the good
one :)
I was at a wedding yesterday and there was no official photographer. The
couple saved ~£1,500 or so by asking friends to take photographs. They'll
probably be happy with the majority of the snaps that people took with
compacts and even phones! Especially as they'll almost certainly just make
a computer slideshow with them, so resolution won't be such an issue. They
probably haven't even thought about their g-g-grandchildren not being able
to see them if the CD/DVD they store them on gets damaged and they lose
the lot.

Yeah - most people don't realise the life span of what they have :(
No. Just a lack of diplomacy filter between brain and mouth. :-)


Well, it works for Tesco!
LOL!

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Hecate wrote:
The proposals were about a range of arts/crafts and, for instance,
would mean that you supposedly had transferable skills across the EU.
The other side of that coin was that you couldn't set up as a
photographer anywhere in the EU *without* those qualifications except
insofar as your home country allows you to - so, for example, if you
wanted to go and be a photographer in Germany without the
"professional" qualification, you couldn't.
<rant/>
This is sad.
No doubt in the usual manner of nanny-state regimes, the decision making
process would be delegated to a committee made up of consumer rights
zealots with axes to grind, and experts from within the industry who
would favour protectionism to both reduce competition in the market, and
provide them with career opportunities in the burgeoning "jobs for sale"
education and certification sector.
The whole idea is based on the insulting assumption that all individuals
are too stupid to make a decision themselves, and too apathetic to take
action already available through existing consumer protection laws when
they have been clearly fleeced. If there is a non-legislative
free-market model, then something like the "Michelin Star" rating for
restaurants might be workable. The viability of this idea relies on the
possibility that private sector inspectors - for whom credibility is
based on performance - might be less inclined to respond to "incentives"
than state employees, for whom credibility is protected by legislation.
</rant>
 
Hecate wrote:

<rant/>
This is sad.
No doubt in the usual manner of nanny-state regimes, the decision making
process would be delegated to a committee made up of consumer rights
zealots with axes to grind, and experts from within the industry who
would favour protectionism to both reduce competition in the market, and
provide them with career opportunities in the burgeoning "jobs for sale"
education and certification sector.


Actually, it would be down to a qualification for which you sit an
exam.

Doesn't make it any more useful of course - I know a fair number of
people who have no trouble passing exams but a lot of trouble putting
the knowledge to practical use.

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Hecate said:
Actually, it would be down to a qualification for which you sit an
exam.

Doesn't make it any more useful of course - I know a fair number of
people who have no trouble passing exams but a lot of trouble putting
the knowledge to practical use.

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And there are a fair number of people that have been making outstanding
photographs, and a very good living at the profession, that just might have
a lot of trouble "passing exams."
 
And there are a fair number of people that have been making outstanding
photographs, and a very good living at the profession, that just might have
a lot of trouble "passing exams."
Yes, I'm sure. And would you like to be the person asking David Bailey
to sit an exam? ;-)

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Hecate said:
Yes, I'm sure. And would you like to be the person asking David Bailey
to sit an exam? ;-)

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HeHeHeHeHe ...

Or some of the old-line high-end pros like John Rawlings. Warren Winstanley
(made several million US$ taking pictures of Ford and GM automobiles ...
back in the 1960s and 1970s when a million dollars really was something),
Peter Gowland, or any one of several hundred others.
 
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