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POKO
Save yourself all the cost and trouble and ask hubby for more foreplay,
if that's what this is all about.
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Al Klein
Susan wrote:
[SNIP]Isn't the telephone serial number a weak (identifiable) link that negates
the "privacy" afforded by the second pre-paid sim card?
Does this question make sense?
Yes, the question makes sense, the link is the IMEI, in GSM 'phones anyway.
In the US, with most carriers, you can usually switch phones any time
you like and, unless you have a problem, the company will never notice
the IMEI.
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Gary R. Schmidt
Yes, the IMEI doesn't _matter_, but it's still important, and it's notAl said:Susan wrote:
[SNIP]
Isn't the telephone serial number a weak (identifiable) link that negates
the "privacy" afforded by the second pre-paid sim card?
Does this question make sense?
Yes, the question makes sense, the link is the IMEI, in GSM 'phones anyway.
In the US, with most carriers, you can usually switch phones any time
you like and, unless you have a problem, the company will never notice
the IMEI.
dependent on the SIM, only the handset.
The IMEI is what you use to deactivate a handset when it is stolen, and
we went through hell here getting the various providers to play nice and
agree to honour each others IMEI stops.
All the GSM exchange systems (5) I've seen in Oz and Europe *record* the
IMEI on all transactions (call, SMS send/receive, status change,
etcetera). And this information can be very important, back in 2000 I
was pulling call data out of the Bureau of Meteorology's PABX system for
the Coronial Inquest into the deaths in the Sydney-Hobart Yacht Race.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Susan
So I guess I'm saying, if all you want to do is keep calls off of your
home phone bill a second cell phone with a prepaid sim should do the
trick. If you want it fully untraceable I think you are out of luck.
Hi Wolfgang,
What I'm doing is innocent enough in that I'm not at all worried that I'm a
terrorist or a bad guy that the NSA would find interesting. I just have
personal reasons for personal privacy, the same as you all do too. I don't
have to tell everyone at home, not my Mom, not my Dad, not anyone what I'm
doing outside of home, and that's really all I'm asking for.
I'm just looking for basic privacy.
I think what I'll do is buy a pay as you go sim card and slip that in my
regular phone when I want to make a call. I don't want to have a second
phone as it would arouse suspicion when its found whereas a second sim card
is simple enough to keep hidden from the family eyes.
From what everyone is saying, the serial number (is that the same as the
ESN or the IMEI number?) can tie the two sim cards together, so it's better
if the second sim card comes from a second company for that extra level of
abstraction.
I'll also ensure the phone doesn't save the calls via the settings.
I can't imagine there aren't millions of people who, like I, desire privacy
so that only we are privy to what phone calls we make. (That's why I don't
want to make the call from work but the problem is I can only make the
calls during the work day).
Is there any other advice for people like me who simply want to talk to
someone privatly who is three states away?
Susan
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Susan
Two click in Google Groups yields a lot of information and someone
could decide to impose their moral code on you and give Livingston
Enterprises a call. Go to Target and buy a prepaid cell phone
with cash.
Do I know you?
I haven't been there for almost a decade.
How do you supposedly know this?
Susan
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Susan
Once you create a record of a call, it stays on some phone company database
forever. You can't erase it.
Hi Jeremy,
You seem to be a rare voice of technical reason here. Instead of going into
the easy moralification of personal issues (which is trivially easy to
pontify cowardly from behind the moral safety of a computer keyboard), you
provide sensible answers to the purely technical questions of enhancing
privacy in personal communications.
I'm appalled at how much is known about me (things I've forgotten about
even) from people I don't even know.
May I ask is whether I can post to this newsgroup more privately.
Apparently there is a record stored of my posts even ten years ago.
Is there a way to post to the usenet such that my posts aren't traceable
back to me ten years later? Is there some freeware that will "anonymize" my
email address (I'm not worried about my first name, which is a nickname
anyway but I want to anonymize my email address and IP).
Thank you in advance,
Susan