Can anyone help? Where is the C: root folder ..????

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~ Free Spirit ~ said:
** I know how to do this but then I lose the formatting on the XP computer.
On W98SE when I save them as .txt the formatting is NOT LOST. How do I save
them as a .txt and NOT lose the formatting on the XP machine?
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You will lose the formatting if you save as a plain text file, no matter
what OS you use. If you need the formatting, you'll have to save in a
different format.

If all you really want it plain text, notepad would suffice.


It wants to
save them as .rtf files. What is an rtf file? I never saw rtf files on W98
when I used WordPad.
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You might want to consider taking a class somewhere. Or have someone come
over and help you sort these things out. It would be a lot less frustrating
and take a lot less of your time.
 
Ever hear of snipping messages? Learn to post properly to newsgroups, like
Perdita X. Nitwit did.
 
In Windows Explorer (your file manager) the left pane shows the "folder
Tree" structure. The first folder of each drive is always the "Root" of
the folder tree. The root of the tree is always designated by the
backslash "\" A:\, B:\, C:\ all show the drive letter and root folder.
All other folders are subfolders, and can contain their own subfolders.
This convention probably existed long before Microsoft, although folders
were called directories before Windows.

Bob


| Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in
W95
| and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we
can't
| locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't
locate
| many things we look for).
| ========please read this to understand:
|
| To use the version provided with Windows XP, click on Start, Run,
| then type: expand d:\i386\csapi3t1.dl_ c:\csapi3t1.dll
| and click OK (if necessary, replace "d:\i386" with the true path of
| your i386 folder.) A command window should flash up on your screen
| and then vanish. Now look for the file in the C:\ root folder using
| Windows Explorer, and move it to Program Files\Common
| Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof using drag and drop. If you use this
| method, be sure to get the filename correct (the end of the filename
| is number three, letter T, number one.)
|
| HOW do we find this "root folder" since all files are exposed in WE
and it
| doesn't show there????
|
| FS...... DESPISES XP :(
|
|
 
| ~ Free Spirit ~ wrote:
| > | >>
| >> Offhand, no, I'm not aware of any spellchecking program that can be
| >> linked to Wordpad, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it
| >> existed as shareware or something. But, your question prompts one
| >> from me? Why are you using WordPad?
| >
| > $$ It's very easy to use. You don't need a 2 year secretarial
degree
| > to understand it.
| >
| >> I'm guessing that there's a good chance that your computer came
with
| >> MS Works, not WORD or Office, although it may have that too.
| >
| > $$ It came with "WordPerfect" which I spent many frustrating hours
| > trying to learn to use. It's not intuitive and the pages can't be
| > printed because the type runs off the page etc. (I have a HP
| > printer.) You need a degree in "something" to even start to use it
| > correctly. There are buttons and choices all over the top of the
| > page that mean nothing to me. The helpfiles seem geared to computer
| > geeks or technicians, not the average Jane and Joe out there who
| > doesn't know the terminology.
| > Here's an example from the unhelpful helpfiles:
| >
| > Example: WordPerfect 10 makes it easy for you to convert Microsoft
| > Word files to WordPerfect formats,
| >
| > * I have no clue what a MS Word file is, or what a WordPerfect
| > Format is. All I want are txt files to print with my old HP printer
| > and to save on my HD. And I notice on XP they refuse to save as
txt.
| > files - WHY? Why should I have to go turn on my old PC in the back
| > office with W98SE just to use it's WordPad because it *will* save
| > them as txt files.
| >
| > EXAMPLE: open Microsoft Word documents in WordPerfect,
| > and save WordPerfect documents as Microsoft Word files.
| >
| > * What is a MS Word document? Is that a .txt doc from WordPad? The
| > helpfiles don't say. I need something like WordPad to type up the
| > pages, spellcheck them, save them as txt,.... and print them.
| >
| > If you are moving from Microsoft Word, you need to know which
| > features of WordPerfect have different names. Because Microsoft Word
| > and WordPerfect share basic formatting features, essential layouts,
| > and many of the same menu options, you can create Microsoft Word
| > documents and then easily import files into WordPerfect.
| >
| > * WTF????
| >
| > In this section, you'll learn about
| > Copyright (c) Corel Corporation. 2001. All rights reserved.
| >
| > * Unless you have prior knowledge and know the terminology you just
| > go in circles.
| >
| > Many new computer come
| >> with Works, and Works contains an excellent word processing program
| >> from Microsoft. Check your program list for it. It has a spell
| >> checker too. If you don't have it, you can buy Works at a computer
| >> store pretty reasonably priced. I think around $30 and you get a
| >> spread sheet program, calender program, and database program
| >> included
| >
| > ** I haven't a clue what a spreadsheet is or those other things, are
| > nor do I need them. All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad or a
| > similar easy-to-use program with a spellchecer.
| >
| >> ... nice, really. Also, there may be some freeware you can
download.
| >> Cost ya nothing. Learn how to search out freeware sites. Be careful
| >> though, some freeware comes bundled with spyware - but not always.
| >> You can usually find out by reading their privacy statement. I've
| >> learned to scan these things pretty fast now.
| >
| > ** I've been searching for an hour and haven't found a free one to
| > work with WordPad on XP yet. I can't see why in these days of such
| > large HDs that MS can't add a spellchecker to WordPad. Since
| > retirement we're trying to keep expenses down. I can't see paying
| > $15 or more for a spellcheck unless I can't find a free one.
| >
| > Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP?
| > I shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.
| >
| > Thanks.... :-)
| >
| > FS..........
|
| Lemme guess - you're blonde, right? ;o) The four year old next door
knows
| what a 'Microsoft Word document is - it's , er, a document created in
MS
| Word, surprisingly enough.
|
| There is nothing in those excerpts you've posted that someone of
average
| intelligence couldn't understand. There's nothing 'technical' or
'geeky'
| there in the slightest.
|
| If you don't like WP - simple solution, buy Office.
|

By the way, WP stands for WordPerfect, and with WordPerfect you can
print directories.

Bob
 
Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in W95
and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we can't
locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't locate
many things we look for).
Click to expand...


You're telling us that your OS does not show your hard drive at all?
Your hard drive should show as drive C, and drive C is your root
drive.
Mad? Subscribe to VITUPERATIONS = you'll get madder, and you'll like it!
 
Lemme guess - you're blonde, right? ;o) The four year old next door knows
what a 'Microsoft Word document is - it's , er, a document created in MS
Word, surprisingly enough.

There is nothing in those excerpts you've posted that someone of average
intelligence couldn't understand. There's nothing 'technical' or 'geeky'
there in the slightest.

If you don't like WP - simple solution, buy Office.
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Epona, Free Spirit is a brunette (many trolls are...).
Mad? Subscribe to VITUPERATIONS = you'll get madder, and you'll like it!
 
..... and D:\ is the root for drive D.

Jim Harkins said:
You're telling us that your OS does not show your hard drive at all?
Your hard drive should show as drive C, and drive C is your root
drive.

Mad? Subscribe to VITUPERATIONS = you'll get madder, and you'll like it!
Click to expand...
 
Bob said:
In Windows Explorer (your file manager) the left pane shows the "folder
Tree" structure. The first folder of each drive is always the "Root" of
the folder tree. The root of the tree is always designated by the
backslash "\" A:\, B:\, C:\ all show the drive letter and root folder.
All other folders are subfolders, and can contain their own subfolders.
This convention probably existed long before Microsoft, although folders
were called directories before Windows.

Bob


| Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in
W95
| and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we
can't
| locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't
locate
| many things we look for).
| ========please read this to understand:
|
| To use the version provided with Windows XP, click on Start, Run,
| then type: expand d:\i386\csapi3t1.dl_ c:\csapi3t1.dll
| and click OK (if necessary, replace "d:\i386" with the true path of
| your i386 folder.) A command window should flash up on your screen
| and then vanish. Now look for the file in the C:\ root folder using
| Windows Explorer, and move it to Program Files\Common
| Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof using drag and drop. If you use this
| method, be sure to get the filename correct (the end of the filename
| is number three, letter T, number one.)
|
| HOW do we find this "root folder" since all files are exposed in WE
and it
| doesn't show there????
|
| FS...... DESPISES XP :(
|
|
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Bob's explanation is more accurate than mine was. Earlier I indicated
that C:\ = the C drive. This is incorrect. C: = the C drive.
The "\" afterwards is the root folder. The combination of the two, C:\, is
considered the root folder, but is actually the path to the root folder
of C: - a short path :)

I'm probably splitting hairs on a gnats ass, though. You will sometimes
hear the term used differently (or perhaps incorrectly) too. Some will
say "create a root folder for an application", when they really mean create
an application folder. Or, some will refer to all the sub-folders in C:\
as root folders because they reside in the root folder, when what they really
mean sub-folders in the root folder. I'm guilty of this misuse as well.
 
GK said:
~ Free Spirit ~ wrote:
.rtf is another standard file format that most spell checkers can create and
read. It has some formatting. Here's the download site for the program. You
will need a zip expanding program to open the file. Download free Winzip or
some other one if you need a program like this. Once the zip file is expanded,
select setup file in the list to install.

http://users.erols.com/fwcetus/cwordpad.htm
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=====================
This one cannot install on my PC. I keep getting this error:

"Header Error - (missing or corrupt)"

So there is no way the unzip program an expand it.
What a disappointment as it looks like exactly what I wanted.
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FS...
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http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
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D.Currie said:
I ==========================
You will lose the formatting if you save as a plain text file, no matter
what OS you use. If you need the formatting, you'll have to save in a
different format.
Click to expand...

## All I need is for it to be like it is on the W98 machine. When it's
printed it looks like what appears on my monitor and doesn't run off the
page. Maybe what I'm calling formatting is really called something else.
Sorry.
If all you really want it plain text, notepad would suffice.
Click to expand...

## You can' set the margins on Notepad. Also there is no spellchecker
there either. It would be the same C&P to OE, then back again - then
print.
It wants to on
Click to expand...
You might want to consider taking a class somewhere. Or have someone come
over and help you sort these things out. It would be a lot less frustrating
and take a lot less of your time.
Click to expand...

## I'd hate to waste all that time (no one close to us uses a PC. We're
out in the boondocks, far from the city.) when all I need is a
Spellchecker for Wordpad, but thanks.
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FS....
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"MY house was clean last week. Too bad you missed it."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
GK said:
Bob's explanation is more accurate than mine was. Earlier I indicated
that C:\ = the C drive. This is incorrect. C: = the C drive.
The "\" afterwards is the root folder. The combination of the two, C:\, is
considered the root folder, but is actually the path to the root folder
of C: - a short path :)

I'm probably splitting hairs on a gnats ass, though. You will sometimes
hear the term used differently (or perhaps incorrectly) too. Some will
say "create a root folder for an application", when they really mean create
an application folder. Or, some will refer to all the sub-folders in C:\
as root folders because they reside in the root folder, when what they really
mean sub-folders in the root folder. I'm guilty of this misuse as well.
Click to expand...
=====================
Gotcha! :-)

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FS...
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"MY house was clean last week. Too bad you missed it."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
Jim Harkins said:
================================

You're telling us that your OS does not show your hard drive at all?
Click to expand...

** If course it does. And now FIND works better with all the "hidden"
files EXPOSED. It's very, very slow though.
Your hard drive should show as drive C, and drive C is your root
drive.
Click to expand...

** Yes, the other guy explained that. I'm so used to the simplicity and
speed of W98 I'm having some difficulty learning XP. And I've had this PC
for 6 months. My "stuff" (private files) are all under My Documents.
But there are *TWO* My Documents folders (FTW???). One has my personal
stuff. The other contains a few things that came with the PC. Why
confuse us with TWO "My Documents" folders? <scratching head>......
--
FS...
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"MY house was clean last week. Too bad you missed it."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
Papa said:
.... and D:\ is the root for drive D.
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================
And there's F, G, H and I. removable disks - whatever they are. And under
them ALL = >>SURPRISE<< my stuff for the second time in "My Documents"
This is the most confusing PC to use after W95 and W98SE.
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FS...
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"My husband asked what was on the TV tonight. I said, "Mostly dust."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
~ Free Spirit ~ said:
** If course it does. And now FIND works better with all the "hidden"
files EXPOSED. It's very, very slow though.




** Yes, the other guy explained that. I'm so used to the simplicity and
speed of W98 I'm having some difficulty learning XP. And I've had this PC
for 6 months. My "stuff" (private files) are all under My Documents.
But there are *TWO* My Documents folders (FTW???). One has my personal
stuff. The other contains a few things that came with the PC. Why
confuse us with TWO "My Documents" folders? <scratching head>......
Click to expand...

XP allows different users to create accounts. Even if there is only one
user and no other accounts, it still has a default account that it uses
as a template to create subsequent ones. So, you will often find duplicate
folders, but those folders are located under the different user accounts,
which have different paths. For example, your husband could set up his own
account and you could set up yours. Both or either of you could logon to
the computer and set up various settings and so forth, without disrupting
the settings and configurations of the other. So, your husband would have
"My Documents, and you would also have "My Documents", but each would be
located under different user names. You will find many folders in XP with
he same name because of this, but they will be in different places, or more
accurately, different user directories.
 
I think you are making it seem more difficult than it really is. Actually,
XP is much more stable and much more intuitive than W98 or W98SE. Give it a
chance.
 
Papa said:
I think you are making it seem more difficult than it really is. Actually,
XP is much more stable and much more intuitive than W98 or W98SE. Give it a
chance.
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===========================
Well I don't have a choice. :-) There are things I like about this PC
but I'm not sure what's just XP-home, and what HP added. Actually I just
didn't LOOK to see. The burn feature for backups is great and it's quick.
I can unload my HP digital camera in seconds. I like the thumbnails and
slideshow for pics.

I guess our biggest gripe is FINDING things on here. The FIND feature is
so slow and often doesn't find the file we're looking for. Or it may find
it one time but doesn't when we go back looking for it the second or third
time. And as I said, several files with the SAME name and my "stuff" in
two places..... and the fact we can't install EZCD Creator on here. This
is the best SW we've used for burning music CDs and can't use it on this
PC. I don't feel like spending another $100 for new EZCD software. And
the disappointment we can't seem to get WordPad to work with the HP
printer - to set the margins so they don't run off the page. :(
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FS...
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"My husband asked what was on the TV tonight. I said, "Mostly dust."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
GK said:
XP allows different users to create accounts. Even if there is only one
user and no other accounts, it still has a default account that it uses
as a template to create subsequent ones. So, you will often find duplicate
folders, but those folders are located under the different user accounts,
which have different paths. For example, your husband could set up his own
account and you could set up yours. Both or either of you could logon to
the computer and set up various settings and so forth, without disrupting
the settings and configurations of the other. So, your husband would have
"My Documents, and you would also have "My Documents", but each would be
located under different user names. You will find many folders in XP with
he same name because of this, but they will be in different places, or more
accurately, different user directories.
Click to expand...
================================
I understand this and we do have the Dummies Book for XP. However, he
doesn't want to set up an account on this computer. So this is just
confusing redundancy. We tried to delete these redundant folders and
couldn't.
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FS...
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"My husband asked what was on the TV tonight. I said, "Mostly dust."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@
 
~ Free Spirit ~ said:
## All I need is for it to be like it is on the W98 machine. When it's
printed it looks like what appears on my monitor and doesn't run off the
page. Maybe what I'm calling formatting is really called something else.
Sorry.
Click to expand...

Formatting generally refers to changing fonts, bold, italics, centering, and
the like. As far as the text running off the page, it's not a problem with
XP, it's got to be the settings you're using for your printer, margins,
something like that.

## You can' set the margins on Notepad. Also there is no spellchecker
there either. It would be the same C&P to OE, then back again - then
print.



## I'd hate to waste all that time (no one close to us uses a PC. We're
out in the boondocks, far from the city.) when all I need is a
Spellchecker for Wordpad, but thanks.
Click to expand...

You say that all you need is a spellchecker, but you've got a lot of other
questions. If you ever get close to civilization for a day or so and have
some spare time, it might be worth your while to spend a few hours and get
all your questions answered in person where you can point to what you're
talking about and get an answer. On a forum like this when you ask a
question but get the terminology wrong, you're going to get answers based on
what you've asked instead of what you mean. If you had a person there with
you, you could say... I want it to print like this...and they would know
what you're talking about.
 
D.Currie said:
---------------------------------
You say that all you need is a spellchecker, but you've got a lot of other
questions.
Click to expand...

** I know. The HP printer itself doesn't have any way to set the margins
when it prints the pages. The margins are too wide and it wastes paper.
The margin settings in settings in WordPad don't seem to work where the
printer is concerned. I can't change the margins so started using AbiPad
instead. The margins stay set in AbiPad but when I print the page the
margins are still too wide. I needed to get these pages done so printed
them with the too wide margin.

If you ever get close to civilization for a day or so and have
some spare time, it might be worth your while to spend a few hours and get
all your questions answered in person where you can point to what you're
talking about and get an answer.
Click to expand...

** There is no place to go where anyone can SHOW me - and I can't drag
the PC and printer with me. I plan to use the AbiPad but these wide
margins are a problem and wasteful.

On a forum like this when you ask a
question but get the terminology wrong, you're going to get answers based on
what you've asked instead of what you mean.
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** I picked up a book yesterday on PC TERMINOLOGY.

If you had a person there with
you, you could say... I want it to print like this...and they would know
what you're talking about.
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** I understand exactly what you mean.
It's sometimes hard explaining things in print too. As for the printer.
The sentences don't run off the pages now, but now the margins are too
wide. I have to play with AbiPad and WordPad but the margins are set as
far to the left and right as I can get them in these programs - and then
they're still too wide when they're printed up. Oh well......
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he was already married."
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