Buying my first Laser printer

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zakezuke said:
I hope you don't mind me adding something Tony...

I can't remember if it was the hp1012 that I had direct experence with
or the 1013... but it was one of their ultra tiny models without a fan.
I had to return the sucker several times... my sisters actually she
picked it. The store people were gawking at the fact that we were
trying to print more than 200 pages at a time on it... they were like
"it can't handle that" and I thought they were on crack... it's a
laser after all. As it turns out, while they might have been on
crack... the printer's fuser works hot for a while than switches to
warm if you are printing more than a handfull of pages... and warm
requires slower printing to fuse the toner to the paper... and slows
printing down to 6ppm IIRC. The offical monthy duty cycle listed is
impossible to achive IIRC based on 6ppm. Ok printer, small and quiet,
but the sucker really needs a fan so it can keep the fuser hot and not
melt the printer.

So while the output is really nice... I had some issues with the hp
1012 or 1013 and can not reccomend it for anyone printing above and
beyond a handfull of pages at a time unless a lack of noise is
paramount.
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Your comments are always welcome.

I am unaware of the problem you describe, and will keep an eye out. We actually
use a 1015 for printing several hundreds of pages at a time. The 1010/1012 (I
don't know anything about a 1013) is slower printer than the 1015, 1020 and
1022 so that may be the reason. What I have noticed and so have a couple of
customers is that this series tends to produce a small amount of steam under
certain circumstances, it is barely noticeable but has alarmed a couple of
customers. I believe (without any research) that this is moisture in the paper
turning to steam in the fuser. I also believe this probably happens in lots of
lasers but this model has the fuser located right at the top so it is more
noticeable. This may have a lot to do with paper quality and how it is stored,
it certainly does not appear to affect output quality.
For what it's worth.
Tony
 
I think i'll go for a color one in-order to discard my other old
ink-jet printer.
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Not i'm not saying the 1020 isn't any good, it might very well be, only
I had a very rare bad experence with one HP printer, specificly one I
believe was built during the Carlie years.

Inkjet color is pretty spiffy... on those glossy papers boy they really
look good. Color lasers not so much so but look decent on most papers
where inkjets require special papers. Inkjet pigment printers are a
good balance between the niceless of ink and the durability of pigment.


A good question to ask would be how much color do you plan to print,
and how much B&W do you plan to print. Depending on your volume you
can invest in a hard core B&W laser.... one of the mid range models
that cost about a penny or less/page for toner. Or it may be that you
print so little that an entry level model with a toner yield of about
1500pages might do the trick for you. Hard to say without knowing your
application.
 
®giorgos® said:
Tony one other think that i never understood is the printer's memory.
What is all about?
What is the difference between 2MB and 8MB (example)
Thanks again!
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See Timothy's reply, it is all there. The only comment I would make is that if
you are considering a colour laser you will have to carefully consider how much
memory you need since colour images are much larger than monochrome.
Tony
 
®giorgos® said:
Thanks zakezuke! ;)
I visited epsonz and HPz sites and saw that have very interesting color
laser printers in nice prices.
Any recommendation?
Epson or HP?
Which model?
I think i'll go for a color one in-order to discard my other old ink-jet
printer.
What do you guys think?
:)
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Just a thought, but when I was comparing inkjet consumables to lasers I
put some figures together for colour lasers and the consumables for
Epson and HP printers were pretty outrageous so it's worth putting
together a little spread sheet and working out just how much you're
going to be spending on toner, drum changes, fuser units, etc... because
it quickly adds up..
 
A good question to ask would be how much color do you plan to print,
and how much B&W do you plan to print. Depending on your volume you
can invest in a hard core B&W laser.... one of the mid range models
that cost about a penny or less/page for toner. Or it may be that you
print so little that an entry level model with a toner yield of about
1500pages might do the trick for you. Hard to say without knowing your
application.
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Well I think that a color/entry-level printer is the best solution for me.
I need to print a few hundreds wine full color labels (every year)which
with my inkjet printer they look a bit ...bad because the ink spreads
on the label.
I also need to print 100-150 pages B/W / month.
So as you can see a Color laser entry-level printer is the best
solution (i think).
So 4 color toners with yield 1500-3000 are perfect.
The questions are which printer?why?And which toner is easy to refill.

Thanks again for your patient guys!!!
 
Martin said:
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Just a thought, but when I was comparing inkjet consumables to lasers
I put some figures together for colour
COLOR

lasers and the consumables for Epson and HP printers were pretty
outrageous so it's worth putting together a little spread sheet and
working out just how much you're going to be spending on toner, drum
changes, fuser units, etc... because it quickly adds up..
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