Browser recommendations?

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Hi Bob

Thanks for that. I had updated MyIe to Maxthon but had no end of problems
with it. It kept closing down each time I clicked on a new link!!
Hence my search for migration to something else.
I am too using Maxthon without problems and I love it. It is a pity it
does not work in your machine.
Jari
 
I am too using Maxthon without problems and I love it. It is a pity it
does not work in your machine.

I tried MyIE2 (now Maxthon) and Avant and actually preferred Avant. They are
very similar programs but I found Avant to be more customizable. You may
want to give it a try:

www.avantbrowser.com
 
derek / nul wrote:

/On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:36:29 +0100, "Vulcan ?"
/
//Anyone recommend a good browser?
//I have tried Opera but this did could not access some pages that IE
//could. Tried MyIE (Maxthon) ....not as good as the earlier
//version. It kept closing unexpectedly.
//I 'd rather try a browser that is recommended by someone who
//actually uses it.
/
/Mozilla
\
Ahmen to that. You can control cookies & popups. You can use tabs and
save a volume of tabs in your bookmarks. You can even change themes.
The download manager works great although no pause or resume is
available YET! It's been my default Browser for a few years now and the
newest update wins hands down.
I kinda like it!
 
I've been playing with extensions this morning, I've got External
Application Buttons; Tabbrowser Extensions; Highlight Unread Tab;
Tab Numbering; Bookmarks LinkChecker; x (paranoia); Super
DragAndGo; TinyUrl Creator; Nuke Anything; Always Remember
Password; BugMeNot; Copy URL+; Bandwidth Tester; Bookmark Backup;
Add Bookmark Here; Toolbar Enhancements; Download Tweak;
ImageZoomer...wasted all morning, I have :-D

Greetings Hedgehog.

In what version of mozilla or firefox are you using those extensions?

Thank you.

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Take care.

Roadster3043
jmfix at hotmail dot com

Something important to read if you use IE
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-5142439-1.html
 
Greetings Hedgehog.

In what version of mozilla or firefox are you using those extensions?

Firefox 0.92

Some of those extensions aren't listed at the update.mozilla.org page, but
are still listed on the texturizer.net page.
 
Vulcan,

Regarding Maxthon: I recall having the same problem after my first updaste
after the Myie -> Maxthon switch I beleive it was a bug in a single build
(build 170, I think). Next release (build 178?) fixed it and I've had no
problems since. I like Maxthon. Can't compare it to Firefox as I have only
a little experience with firefox (there are however, other threads in this
group which discuss possible shortcomings - take a look). Avant Browser is
another IE-based browser (much like maxthon) woirth a look. I consider them
more or less equivalent...

Regards,
Chuck
 
Vulcan,

Regarding Maxthon: I recall having the same problem after my first updaste
after the Myie -> Maxthon switch I beleive it was a bug in a single build
(build 170, I think). Next release (build 178?) fixed it and I've had no
problems since. I like Maxthon. Can't compare it to Firefox as I have only
a little experience with firefox (there are however, other threads in this
group which discuss possible shortcomings - take a look). Avant Browser is
another IE-based browser (much like maxthon) woirth a look. I consider them
more or less equivalent...

I stayed up late and spent 3 hours trying to get comfortable with Firefox 2
weeks ago. The more I fiddled with it, the more frustrated I got. At this
time, I can't tell what are bugs and what are features. I'm determined to
make it work, because everyone else just loves it. I will wait until the
next release, because I've had it with the current release.

Bob
 
I stayed up late and spent 3 hours trying to get comfortable with Firefox 2
weeks ago. The more I fiddled with it, the more frustrated I got. At this
time, I can't tell what are bugs and what are features. I'm determined to
make it work, because everyone else just loves it. I will wait until the
next release, because I've had it with the current release.

Bob

Firefox 2?? I have the latest one, I believe, at v0.9.2. Could it be
you don't have the latest one and that's why the troubles? Just a
thought; I could very well be wrong here.

I'm an experienced user to some degree but a real newbie technically
so if I run into problems, it's hard sometimes to get myself out of
fixes. But I've not run into any major problems, per se, with FF.
I'm on Win98SE myself and FF is running quite smoothly.

The issues I have with it are ones of functionality and not operation.

Good luck.
 
Firefox 2?? I have the latest one, I believe, at v0.9.2. Could it be
you don't have the latest one and that's why the troubles? Just a
thought; I could very well be wrong here.

He meant He tried Firefox "2 weeks ago".

I'm an experienced user to some degree but a real newbie technically
so if I run into problems, it's hard sometimes to get myself out of
fixes. But I've not run into any major problems, per se, with FF.
I'm on Win98SE myself and FF is running quite smoothly.

The issues I have with it are ones of functionality and not operation.

That is the same issue Bob has I believe.

When you make a switch to another browser, you must be already to make
some changes, the problem is when you insist on having exactly the same
feature or worse accessing the same features in exactly the same way, in
which case you are going to be very fustrated since that is never going
to happen.
 
On 8 Aug 2004 18:08:38 GMT, Aaron
That is the same issue Bob has I believe.

When you make a switch to another browser, you must be already to make
some changes, the problem is when you insist on having exactly the same
feature or worse accessing the same features in exactly the same way, in
which case you are going to be very fustrated since that is never going
to happen.

That's not exactly right, but close enough. I don't insist on anything being
exact. Close is usually good enough.

When I do switch browsers (and I will some day), it will be for more
features, convenience, and performance, not less.

Bob
 
On 8 Aug 2004 18:08:38 GMT, Aaron

That's not exactly right, but close enough. I don't insist on anything
being exact. Close is usually good enough.

Close enough is hard to do. Not without much effort anyway. You will have
to give up something though. Case in point, barring a miracle , you will
never be able to access Activex sites.
When I do switch browsers (and I will some day), it will be for more
features, convenience, and performance, not less.

Well the rest of us who have switched obviously do so because of exactly
this, if you can actually believe that.

Anyhow if you are hoping "more features,convenience and performance" =
exactly the same features as in another browser+ more, I would have said
you will never switch.

But at least with the extension system of Firefox you might have a
fighting chance.
 
On 8 Aug 2004 18:08:38 GMT, Aaron

That's not exactly right, but close enough. I don't insist on anything being
exact. Close is usually good enough.

When I do switch browsers (and I will some day), it will be for more
features, convenience, and performance, not less.

Bob

Yes, I agree. Telling one that we have to expect to make changes is
obvious. We've made the change. But going one step forward, 2 steps
back is not the idea either.

NO, I don't like IE because of security issues. YES, I DO like IE for
its features. I was a Netscape users before switching becuase NOT
TALKING AT ALL ABOUT SECURITY, IE does everything that I need.

FF does not. But I live with it because at this point, security
overrides the rest.

You can bet I'm looking for ways to do certain things where FF is
deficient IN FUNCTIONALITY.

And yes, I have found apps that do things _better_ than the one it's
replacing so I don't see why I must expect to settle for _less_.

FF does a great job and, for the most part, I'm extremely satisfied
with it. That it's perfect ... no way. But I'm sure I'll eventually
find extensions to tighten up the slack on where it is deficient.
 
Close enough is hard to do. Not without much effort anyway. You will have
to give up something though. Case in point, barring a miracle , you will
never be able to access Activex sites.


Well the rest of us who have switched obviously do so because of exactly
this, if you can actually believe that.

Anyhow if you are hoping "more features,convenience and performance" =
exactly the same features as in another browser+ more, I would have said
you will never switch.

But at least with the extension system of Firefox you might have a
fighting chance.

It's obvious that it's hard to do. We don't need someone telling us
what we already know.

The rest of us who are not completely satisfied because we've had to
slow down to work around issues when they come up (which usu. means to
opening up that page in IE for that instance), we'll figure out a way
to make it work. In my case, when I have more time I can waste on
this issue, I'll go hunting again for extensions to do things to work
around FF's deficiencies. And, yes, it does have them.

But again, security is the overriding issue, so we stick with FF. on
the whole it does work great. But where it doesn't, it's a pain. So
we live with it for now. But not forever. Someone will hopefully
come along soon if there isn't an extension currently to do something.

Enough said.
 
FF does a great job and, for the most part, I'm extremely satisfied
with it. That it's perfect ... no way. But I'm sure I'll eventually
find extensions to tighten up the slack on where it is deficient.

Well! It's refreshing to be able to read thoughts about FF that are
untainted by bias.

If security were a little bit higher priority for me, I would most likely be
using FF too. I may get bitten and change my mind tomorrow, but my security
is OK for now using IE

You nailed it about the time thing. If I had a day or so to devote to
building up a feature set in FF, I may be using it now.

Maxthon has an option to use the Mozilla engine, and it works pretty good.
However, it drops some features. When the Maxthon developer catches up with
a few bugs, I hope he will beef up the Mozilla functionality. Then I will
have the best of both worlds.

Bob
 
Are you a IE shell user? From what I gather you are a stright IE user, so
I'm certain the functionality you are talking about is unlikely to be
what Bob is looking for.
Well! It's refreshing to be able to read thoughts about FF that are
untainted by bias.

Bob, I hope you are not saying I or any of the dozens of people here
using Firefox happily are biased Bob.
You nailed it about the time thing. If I had a day or so to devote to
building up a feature set in FF, I may be using it now.

Just do it. You know what they say about mothers and necessity. Force
yourself to use Firefox and you might find the incentive and motivation
to find the solutions to your problems.
Maxthon has an option to use the Mozilla engine, and it works pretty
good. However, it drops some features. When the Maxthon developer
catches up with a few bugs, I hope he will beef up the Mozilla
functionality. Then I will have the best of both worlds.

I see you still habour the hope of not having to switch.

I wouldn't hold my breath though. The last time I checked, many of the
Maxthon regulars were dead set against more development on supporting the
gecko engine and Bloodchen himself doesn't seem to be that interested, I
suppose he prefers to spend more time doing "cool" features.

Just bite the bullet and join us.
 
It's obvious that it's hard to do. We don't need someone telling us
what we already know.

Well you of course already know this, since you switched. But I suspect
Bob hasn't!

I have a friend who keeps putting off using Firefox, despite the fact
that he can get close to 95% functionality of his old browser (after my
help), and the other 5% is doable except through another way. It gets
really fustrating, when you answer all his questions and he goes "yes but
can firefox do .....". I get the impression unless Firefox was exactly
the same *then* he would switch.

Some of the Myie2 users in here remind me of him.

The rest of us who are not completely satisfied because we've had to
slow down to work around issues when they come up (which usu. means to
opening up that page in IE for that instance), we'll figure out a way
to make it work. In my case, when I have more time I can waste on
this issue, I'll go hunting again for extensions to do things to work
around FF's deficiencies. And, yes, it does have them.

Feel free to share. What exactly are your problems?

But again, security is the overriding issue, so we stick with FF. on
the whole it does work great. But where it doesn't, it's a pain. So
we live with it for now. But not forever. Someone will hopefully
come along soon if there isn't an extension currently to do something.

Assuming what you want is popular enough that is.
 
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