Boycott Vista!!

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Jan said:
You need to sell your PC. You aren't mature enough to have one of your own.

Jan:)
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That is a terrible way to respond to someone who is having problems.
Are you this helpful all the time here?
 
Great quote, but it doesn't really apply to a company whose products you can
purchase or do without. Microsoft really has the rights to control their
software anyway they like, just like retail stores who can choose to deny
someone service (for lack of shirt and shoes, or behavior, etc). There's
always Linspire or Suse (did I see that called $u$e somewhere recently? )
If Microsoft can cause 10% of people who would otherwise steal a copy of
Windows to actually pay for Vista, then that's worth hundreds of millions to
them and their stockholders. So as much as we may balk at the
inconvenience, it's their prerogative to implement the measures the have.

but I do like the quote :-)

Rich
 
He's not having problems, I saw no request for assistance. He's just whining
about activation. The OP should take his own advise and move to linux, I'm
sure that will be a fun time for him. If he thinks a couple minutes to
reactivate is a hassle, wait till he tries to get linux up and running.
 
The OP appears to not have a problem that needs technical assistance. He/She
is simply complaining about the activation part of Windows. Activation takes
10 minutes max with a phone call. literally a few minutes, if that, online
and doesn't cost the user anything so i can't see what the problem is.

As for your comment 'Are you this helpful all the time here?' Actually Jan
is extemely helpful as many user can testify.


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John said:
The OP appears to not have a problem that needs technical assistance.
He/She is simply complaining about the activation part of Windows.
Activation takes 10 minutes max with a phone call. literally a few
minutes, if that, online and doesn't cost the user anything so i can't
see what the problem is.
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Phone activation may be free in the USA but not in Spain. The problems
are that MS assumes you are a thief until you prove otherwise and that
WPA is not flawless and many times comes up with false positives.

Alias
 
Great quote, but it doesn't really apply to a company whose products you
can purchase or do without.
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Doesn't it? The first time I heard it was in an interview with a
businessman who'd just been convicted of scamming consumers. He quoted his
business philosophy as, "find out what rubes will put up, and that's
just how hard you can screw them". He credited it to Frederick Douglas. It
was a challenge finding what Douglas really said. :o)

But anyway the typical home user only has the choices he's aware of. Most
home consumers have no idea that Linux even exists. Even if they did, they
may already have a significant investment in Windows training, Windows
software, and made-for-Windows hardware. Home and business users alike may
have critical data locked up in Microsoft's proprietary formats. They're
far from being able to just "do without".
Microsoft really has the rights to control their software anyway they
like, just like retail stores who can choose to deny someone service
(for lack of shirt and shoes, or behavior, etc).
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Once they sell it to me, as far as I'm concerned it's MY software now, to
use as I wish so long as I don't make copies for others. And no, I am
*NOT* buying the license. I am buying the software, and several circuit
courts agree with me on that. Several others don't, but if the law can't
make up its mind then I reserve the right to pick-and-choose. :o)

BTW I'm just arguing principles here - the only proprietary software I
own now is Windows XP running in a Virtual Machine on Ubuntu Linux, and
Delorme Road Atlas running on that. Everything else is 100% open source.
And 64-bit, I might add. :o)
There's always Linspire or Suse
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Or my own current favorite, Ubuntu. It's not doomed like SuSE and it
doesn't charge you to download open-source applications like Linspire
does. They'll even send you the CD for free. :o)
(did I see that called $u$e somewhere recently? )
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Probably a result of their "partnership" with Microsoft. Microsoft
partners tend to be found laying in ditches with knives in their back.
There's a popular viewpoint in the technical media that Novell has
signed its death warrant in return for a big one-time monetary gain.
If Microsoft can cause 10% of people who would otherwise steal a copy of
Windows to actually pay for Vista, then that's worth hundreds of
millions to them and their stockholders.
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Microsoft is asking their honest customers to make sacrifices so that one
of the most profitable companies in history can become even more profitable.
There is nothing in this for consumers. Not better software, not lower
prices, not better treatment. Curbing Windows piracy is not consumers'
problem, except insofar as Microsoft uses it as an excuse to screw them
even harder.
So as much as we may balk at the inconvenience, it's their prerogative
to implement the measures the have.
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"Find out what rubes will put up, and that's just how hard
you can screw them" -- Frederick Douglas. ;->
 
Well said,
Ahh, But haven;t I been railing against this forever?
LOL
Psst, say hi to all the MVP's poppin in;now that Vista is RTM; for me!
lol

Jeff
 
Phone activation is free too in the UK.

I'm sorry but i'm not getting into the argument of whether or not, as you
put it, "MS assumes you are a thief until you prove otherwise"
 
I'm immature because I don't like activating everytime I do a hardware
upgrade?
I suppose everyone who believes the current way activation is implemented is
is wrong is childish too?

I agree with the previous statement that once I buy the software it's mine,
not to reverse engineer or copy.

I don't think it is any of Microsofts business when or what hardware I
upgrade. If they
track the keys wouldn't WGA restrict a pirated copy anyway??

I just want the one original activation is all ;-)
 
Don't mean to sound like a killjoy here, but it wouldn't be a much of a
problem if you waited and upgraded all at once.
It works like this:
Get a video card today, get a mother board next week, pet a processor a
month from now, and a hard drive in a couple months.
then, if you install it all at one time, if you need to activate, activate
it. If you have to call, you can call, but you only have to do it once.

I mean, this isn't rocket science. If you don't want to have to call to
activate 3 times in 6 months because of upgrades, you upgrade all at once.

Now, for me, RC2, X86 has been loaded on 2 computers, my laptop, and my
desktop. I used it on my laptop for a while, then put XP back on it, then on
my desktop, then changed to X64, then went back to x86 after I got my new
video card, and every time, click the "activate now" and it activated. no
issues, no problems.
 
I prefer to think of it as "following good practice that is debated
openly and freely on forums/news groups such as these".
 
I'm sorry I can't plan all my hardware purchases around MS.
I swear we are turning into a country of facists.
 
John said:
Phone activation is free too in the UK.

I'm sorry but i'm not getting into the argument of whether or not, as
you put it, "MS assumes you are a thief until you prove otherwise"
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That's fair, you know it's true so you won't argue.
 
:-) Nice try!


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John said:
Phone activation is free too in the UK.

I'm sorry but i'm not getting into the argument of whether or not, as
you put it, "MS assumes you are a thief until you prove otherwise"
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That must be because you know it's true.

Alias
 
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