Boycott Epson !

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If anyone is considering buying an Epson inkjet printer, think again.

Have you seen how many people have clogging problems with this
printer? It's rediculous! Clog after clog after clog.

Part of the problem is due to the fact that the print head is part of
the printer and not the cartridge. This means that when you replace
the ink cartridge, the print head is not replaced. Some other printer
brands don't do it this way. What they do is build the print head
into the actual ink cartridge. That's great for refilling, because if
you screw up, you just buy another ink cartridge, and your print head
is fixed.

Not with an Epson. What makes it worse is that the ink must be pushed
through long ink lines from the cartridge to and through the print
head, increasing the risk of ink drying up and clogging one or more of
these ink lines.

My $300 Epson Photo Stylus 700 printer clogged years ago, and would
not unclog. This happened on the first ink cartridge. I never messed
around with any refill kits at the time, because I didn't know where
to get those and how to do this.

I now regularly fill up my Lexmark (although I *hate* the total lame
ass and buggy Lexmark printer drivers), and screwed up once, fixed by
getting a new cartridge.

Anyway, I strongly suggest not to buy Epson.
I think the whole thing is all very calculated by Epson, designed to
extract the most of dollars from us.
I hears they now build in a chip into the cartridges to prevent
refills.
I bet the price of ink cartridges are 1000% markup, costing only a few
$ to manufacture, and sold to us suckers for $30 +.
 
I have owned quite a few Epsons and never had a problem with clogging. If
you want to boycott them go right ahead. There are many happy satisfied
Epson users out there. I wouldn't want a disposable print head. I like the
quality I get from my Epson's.
 
Mike said:
If anyone is considering buying an Epson inkjet printer, think again.

Have you seen how many people have clogging problems with this
printer? It's rediculous! Clog after clog after clog.
Click to expand...

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Well, as one who only yesterday mentioned a problem with an Epson I
disagree.

After 5 or 6 years without any kind of problem at all I think my esc600 was
entitled to a little attention.

Even if the cleaning hadn't worked I'd have been very happy to buy Epson
again. In fact I had already decided to. However it's beginning to seem as
though the old one will soldier on for more years.

Oh yes! As I said before I've been using cheap cartridges all that time.

Edgar
 
i have a epson 750 for 5 years,used 10000 different type of ink
(pigment,dye,HP,canon......) with minor problems.You must buy an Epson only
if you print A LOOOOOT.
I refill my carts every 15 days.
If you print 1 page a month then go to HP.
The printhead is permanent and has more life than the printer's motors.
:)
 
I can sympathize with your disappointment in Epson. I have had several
Epson models clog, costing me $$$$ .

But I don't agree with your conspiracy theory. It has to do with how Epson
engineers their machines. They get EXCELLENT print quality. It's no
accident that they have been refining the same basic printhead technology
and have enjoyed leadership in the photo quality arena. That printhead
technology can be prone to clogging. It depends on how the machine is used.
And it goes with the territory, so to speak.

I am a seldom print color user. Worst kind of offender as far as an Epson
printer is concerned. Use 'em or loose 'em.
 
Bob Kos said:
I can sympathize with your disappointment in Epson. I have had several
Epson models clog, costing me $$$$ .

But I don't agree with your conspiracy theory. It has to do with how Epson
engineers their machines. They get EXCELLENT print quality. It's no
accident that they have been refining the same basic printhead technology
and have enjoyed leadership in the photo quality arena. That printhead
technology can be prone to clogging. It depends on how the machine is used.
And it goes with the territory, so to speak.

I am a seldom print color user. Worst kind of offender as far as an Epson
printer is concerned. Use 'em or loose 'em.
Click to expand...

I have been using Epson printer for many years without any problem
(started with dot matrix, Epson Action Laser II, Stylus 500, 750, and
now 900) and 3 Epson printers (Laser, 500, and 750) only last less than
2 months each after I let my kids used them. They printed with emptied
cartridge and burned all 3 printers (including the laser).

Now I have another laser printer for regular use, HP Photosmart 7350
for my kids for abuse, and Epson Photo 900 to print DVD label.

About the cost $$$$, I think after about a year it worth to throw in
trash can to replace with other (but they all last for 2-3 years til my
kids burned them, the laser last over 10 years).
 
The printhead can't be burned beacuse is not thermal.

Bob Kos said:
I can sympathize with your disappointment in Epson. I have had several
Epson models clog, costing me $$$$ .

But I don't agree with your conspiracy theory. It has to do with how Epson
engineers their machines. They get EXCELLENT print quality. It's no
accident that they have been refining the same basic printhead technology
and have enjoyed leadership in the photo quality arena. That printhead
technology can be prone to clogging. It depends on how the machine is used.
And it goes with the territory, so to speak.

I am a seldom print color user. Worst kind of offender as far as an Epson
printer is concerned. Use 'em or loose 'em.
Click to expand...

I have been using Epson printer for many years without any problem
(started with dot matrix, Epson Action Laser II, Stylus 500, 750, and
now 900) and 3 Epson printers (Laser, 500, and 750) only last less than
2 months each after I let my kids used them. They printed with emptied
cartridge and burned all 3 printers (including the laser).

Now I have another laser printer for regular use, HP Photosmart 7350
for my kids for abuse, and Epson Photo 900 to print DVD label.

About the cost $$$$, I think after about a year it worth to throw in
trash can to replace with other (but they all last for 2-3 years til my
kids burned them, the laser last over 10 years).
 
If anyone is considering buying an Epson inkjet printer, think again.

Have you seen how many people have clogging problems with this
printer? It's rediculous! Clog after clog after clog.
Click to expand...
Sometimes it's just bad luck with Epsons - the gizmo that's supposed
to seal the head doesn't fit quite right, it happens. Maybe you
should see if this is a user-replaceable assembly.

Just be sure to ALWAYS shut any Epson printer off when you're through
printing, that way the cartridges are (in theory) protected from
evaporation & congealing, leading to head clogs.
Part of the problem is due to the fact that the print head is part of
the printer and not the cartridge. This means that when you replace
the ink cartridge, the print head is not replaced. Some other printer
brands don't do it this way. What they do is build the print head
into the actual ink cartridge. That's great for refilling, because if
you screw up, you just buy another ink cartridge, and your print head
is fixed.
Click to expand...
Actually we should be happy that the print head is a separate
assembly. Epson cartridges can be inexpensively refilled
indefinitely, but others may only be good for 3-4 fillings before the
jets deteriorate.
Not with an Epson. What makes it worse is that the ink must be pushed
through long ink lines from the cartridge to and through the print
head, increasing the risk of ink drying up and clogging one or more of
these ink lines.

My $300 Epson Photo Stylus 700 printer clogged years ago, and would
not unclog. This happened on the first ink cartridge. I never messed
around with any refill kits at the time, because I didn't know where
to get those and how to do this.

I now regularly fill up my Lexmark (although I *hate* the total lame
ass and buggy Lexmark printer drivers), and screwed up once, fixed by
getting a new cartridge.
Click to expand...
"Impossible" head clogs can usually be cured by use of an effective
cleaning solution and/or immersion in an ultrasonic bath.
Anyway, I strongly suggest not to buy Epson.
I think the whole thing is all very calculated by Epson, designed to
extract the most of dollars from us.
I hears they now build in a chip into the cartridges to prevent
refills.
I bet the price of ink cartridges are 1000% markup, costing only a few
$ to manufacture, and sold to us suckers for $30 +.
Click to expand...

Haven't you been refilling your Epson cartridges like all the rest of
us? Not only is it a great cost saver, but there are inks available
that appear to be superior to Epson's own. Even pigment-based inks
are available for use with older Epsons. A simple $8 resetting gadget
is all that's needed, or you can also reset them with a program like
InkLevel.
 
one day i started printing 450 pages and the last 100 pages i went out and
when i returned at home i saw that the printer was out of ink but the status
monitor was at half way because i reset the printer and didn't refill it.
He had print 100 without a drop of ink.BLANK PAGES.I refilled him and
everything was ok.
A friend of mine that has left the printer unused for 6 months and didn't
manage to print again.The printhead was dead,no cloggs.
There are some mysteries with Epsons but until now i have no problem
geocha said:
The printhead can't be burned beacuse is not thermal.
Click to expand...

I know it isn't as hot or using heat to melt wax/ink, but won't
survive to print without ink.
 
If anyone is considering buying an Epson inkjet printer, think again.

Have you seen how many people have clogging problems with this
printer? It's rediculous! Clog after clog after clog.

Part of the problem is due to the fact that the print head is part of
the printer and not the cartridge. This means that when you replace
the ink cartridge, the print head is not replaced. Some other printer
brands don't do it this way. What they do is build the print head
into the actual ink cartridge. That's great for refilling, because if
you screw up, you just buy another ink cartridge, and your print head
is fixed.

Not with an Epson. What makes it worse is that the ink must be pushed
through long ink lines from the cartridge to and through the print
head, increasing the risk of ink drying up and clogging one or more of
these ink lines.

My $300 Epson Photo Stylus 700 printer clogged years ago, and would
not unclog. This happened on the first ink cartridge. I never messed
around with any refill kits at the time, because I didn't know where
to get those and how to do this.

I now regularly fill up my Lexmark (although I *hate* the total lame
ass and buggy Lexmark printer drivers), and screwed up once, fixed by
getting a new cartridge.

Anyway, I strongly suggest not to buy Epson.
I think the whole thing is all very calculated by Epson, designed to
extract the most of dollars from us.
I hears they now build in a chip into the cartridges to prevent
refills.
I bet the price of ink cartridges are 1000% markup, costing only a few
$ to manufacture, and sold to us suckers for $30 +.
Click to expand...


Go partway between, get a Canon, they have easily removeable pinte
head(although I don't know of a cost effective replacement). Also, on
most models, the ink carts are not chipped.
 
If anyone is considering buying an Epson inkjet printer, think again.

Have you seen how many people have clogging problems with this
printer? It's rediculous! Clog after clog after clog.
Click to expand...
On my 2nd Epson (1280). The first was an ESC600.

Never had a clogging problem. There are some pretty well documented
precautions (turn it off, use it often, etc.)

FWIW
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
In September 1999 our elementary school in Philadelphia bought 3 dozen
Epson 740 printers. Over a 6 month period I put them all into service. I've
been running them with third party cartridges since then. In that time one
has been stolen, another had a color printhead clog because the teacher
decided to remove the color cartridge when it became empty, but then didn't
insert a new cartridge. I found it after the summer vacation and for a year
it would not fire one of the blue inkjets, leaving it partially clogged. We
kept using it though to print text without problem, and this fall it has
cleared itself and is unclogged again. One other of the printers has
developed a faulty feed mechanism and is now out of service. The other 33
Epsons are running without a hitch.
Two Years ago we picked up a dozen Epson 880 printers. They are all
running on 3rd party ink cartridges and no clogs.
I've been using a refurbished 880 at home for the past year and it also has
no head clog.
Gee, I must have all the luck.
 
geocha said:
one day i started printing 450 pages and the last 100 pages i went out and
when i returned at home i saw that the printer was out of ink but the status
monitor was at half way because i reset the printer and didn't refill it.
He had print 100 without a drop of ink.BLANK PAGES.I refilled him and
everything was ok.
A friend of mine that has left the printer unused for 6 months and didn't
manage to print again.The printhead was dead,no cloggs.
There are some mysteries with Epsons but until now i have no problem
Click to expand...

Not here! my kids burned 2 printers within few weeks after I allowed
them to share the printer through network. I never have clogging
problem, but 2 were murdered by my kids. I don't know how they killed
the laser printer, but it too only last for few weeks.
 
Jan Alter said:
In September 1999 our elementary school in Philadelphia bought 3 dozen
Epson 740 printers. Over a 6 month period I put them all into service. I've
been running them with third party cartridges since then. In that time one
has been stolen, another had a color printhead clog because the teacher
decided to remove the color cartridge when it became empty, but then didn't
insert a new cartridge. I found it after the summer vacation and for a year
it would not fire one of the blue inkjets, leaving it partially clogged. We
kept using it though to print text without problem, and this fall it has
cleared itself and is unclogged again. One other of the printers has
developed a faulty feed mechanism and is now out of service. The other 33
Epsons are running without a hitch.
Two Years ago we picked up a dozen Epson 880 printers. They are all
running on 3rd party ink cartridges and no clogs.
I've been using a refurbished 880 at home for the past year and it alsohas
no head clog.
Gee, I must have all the luck.
Click to expand...

You may want to take a look at those Continuous Ink System which costs
around $80-$110 each, and you can just pour ink to the bottles and it
works without having to change catridge. See the link below

http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_epson_324373_products.htm
 
You may have a point. For about $!00 ($70 + $28) I could have an 880 running
without changing cartridges again. Then again a set of 3rd part cartridges
cost us $8. Its a thought to consider.
--
Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
Jan Alter said:
In September 1999 our elementary school in Philadelphia bought 3 dozen
Epson 740 printers. Over a 6 month period I put them all into service. I've
been running them with third party cartridges since then. In that time one
has been stolen, another had a color printhead clog because the teacher
decided to remove the color cartridge when it became empty, but then didn't
insert a new cartridge. I found it after the summer vacation and for a year
it would not fire one of the blue inkjets, leaving it partially clogged. We
kept using it though to print text without problem, and this fall it has
cleared itself and is unclogged again. One other of the printers has
developed a faulty feed mechanism and is now out of service. The other 33
Epsons are running without a hitch.
Two Years ago we picked up a dozen Epson 880 printers. They are all
running on 3rd party ink cartridges and no clogs.
I've been using a refurbished 880 at home for the past year and it also has
no head clog.
Gee, I must have all the luck.
Click to expand...

You may want to take a look at those Continuous Ink System which costs
around $80-$110 each, and you can just pour ink to the bottles and it
works without having to change catridge. See the link below

http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_epson_324373_products.htm
 
Matt said:
Sometimes it's just bad luck with Epsons - the gizmo that's supposed
to seal the head doesn't fit quite right, it happens. Maybe you
should see if this is a user-replaceable assembly.

Just be sure to ALWAYS shut any Epson printer off when you're through
printing, that way the cartridges are (in theory) protected from
evaporation & congealing, leading to head clogs.
Click to expand...
The nozzles are capped automatically within a few minutes of the last
printing operation, not by switching the printer off (except on very old
printers).

It is the converse of your advice that is important - if you are going
to switch the printer off, do it from the front panel button since that
initiates the capping action if not already done and keeps the power up
until the nozzles capping is complete. If you just switch off at the
wall socket or power lead, the chances are that the printer will not
have capped the nozzles and a clog is guaranteed within hours.
 
Jan Alter said:
You may have a point. For about $!00 ($70 + $28) I could have an 880 running
without changing cartridges again. Then again a set of 3rd part cartridges
cost us $8. Its a thought to consider.
Click to expand...

Just pour $40 worth of ink then you can run for year. If the school
has lot of Epson printers then you can buy ink in GALLON (lot cheaper
too) instead of OZ, and it would last for decade <g>
 
Looks like you're responding to your own message, as if it was written
by someone else. Do you often pretend to be more than one person?
Do you work for Epson or something?

A quick search on 'Epson clogged' on groups.google.com returns 7190
hits. Epson sucks, sorry.
 
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