Birthdays/Anniversaries & Activesync/WMDC

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I do have an answer for this question in case anyone else here is hunting one
- it was hard for me to get it figured out.

The number in the () on the cell phone calendar once it is synced to OUtlook
is the number of years since the original occurence. THerefore, the date you
put in for birthday or anniversary on the contact 'Detail' page is supposed
to be a date of birth or wedding year. This way your calendar will tell you
how old or what year anniversary it is. Of course, the silly thing is some
people I could care less to have that info. A lot of times I meet a
colleague and just want to record the date; it is a nice touch to wish an
unsuspecting person happy birthday. Do I care what year they were born? No
and I am not going to ask either, lol.

So now I understand although it seems a little silly to not have a separate
field for this. I knew Outlook calculated that because I have seen it on
Custom Forms, but to not give you a sync option to not include this field
seems shortsighted.

So mystery solved, I hope this was informative.

Thanks Russ for all your help on this thread and all other MVPs and helpful
readers as always.

Russ Valentine said:
msnews.microsoft.com

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sean said:
What should I specify for the NNTP server for these MIcrosoft groups? I
have
manually opened up OE so I can set it up.

Russ Valentine said:
Why didn't you say so? Then try the other solutions I posted. You must
also
ensure that within OE itself, it is NOT set to be the default.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That's the first thing I had checked Russ. Under 'Internet Programs >
Newsgroups' Outlook Express is the only option and is selected already.

:

Then you haven't configured things correctly. To get the News command
back,
go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel | Internet Options and
change
the default newsreader to Outlook Express. If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you
launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or
reboot
your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is reporting
success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else fails,
you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include
the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Nope. I have MAIL, CALENDAR, CONTACTS, TASKS, NOTES, FOLDER LIST,
SHORTCUTS,
JOURNAL, FOLDER in that order.

:

You should see "news" in the Go Menu.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Last question on this thread then: How do I launch OE from
Outlook.
Sounds
right on the money the best option. TY

:

Just launch OE from Outlook and it will open in "news only"
mode.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
So I can continue using Outlook 2003 as I do and also set up
OE
just
for
the
newsgroups? If that's right, cool, I will have to get back to
my
OE.
I
used
to use newsgroups there many moons ago but also ceased using
the
program
when
I switched to Outlook. The shortcut converted to an Outlook
icon
when
I
installed Office.

:

It's the synch software that matters. So if indeed you are
using
Activesync
then someone in that group might have seen a similar problem.
If
it
is
third
party or proprietary synch software, then support will have
to
come
from
those developers.

There are a host of good, free news readers out there. I've
only
ever
used
Outlook Express. It's not particularly good, but it's free
and
already
on
my
hard drive (whether I want it or not).
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I was going to ask for a free news reader suggestion.

The dash is a smartphone, not a pocket-pc; I don't know if
that
matters
if
you feel the problem lies with the software itself. I just
think
someone
else would have reported this issue by now, especially if
it
is
sync
software
related and multiple peeps should be seeing it.

:

microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync pops up right away.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Can you please better direct to those groups? I seem to
be
having a
hard
time finding them.

:

Thank you sir, you are in fact The Man.

:

Outlook's only role in synchronization is to provide
a
consistent
database
and interface to the various synch programs. Any
problems
that
arise
with
synchronization are a result of the synch program,
not
Outlook.
There
are
newsgroups for both Activsync and Window Mobile on
these
news
servers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message
Thank you for getting on that so quickly Russ.

However, does the sync software not pull this
information
from
my
Outlook
Contacts/Calendar? I cannot fathom why many items
appear
incorrectly
if
the
duplication does not originate on the windows
system a
la
Outlook.
The
sync
software is just supposed to pull the data over
from
Outlook
to
the
phone
without any manipulation of data. If it was the
sync
software
I
would
think
ALL birthdays and anniversaries would have a (x)
but
that
is
simply
not
the
case. Many do appear fine.

If you are positive that this issue resides with
ActiveSync
And
the
new
WMDC
for Vista users, can you please give me direction
to
the
appropriate
location
to seek an answer? Thanks Russ.

:

Unfortunately this is not an Outlook issue.
Synchronization
problems
are
exclusively within the purview of the
synchronization
software.
If
T-mobile
doesn't know how to support that, you might try in
an
Activsync
or
Windows
Mobile group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message
Good evening and thx in advance for all help.

I have sought advice from my mobile provider
(TMobile -
using
the
dash
phone) and was told by their 3rd level engineers
to
ask
the
Outlook
experts.

I am using Office 2003 SP 2. I am currently
using
Vista
Home
Premium
with
Mobile Device Center but have experienced the
same
issue
since
XP
Pro
SP 2
with Activesync 4.5 and earlier.

I have no duplicate birthdays or anniversaries
for
my
contacts
in
 
Just so I understand, you see this only on your cell phone, never in
Outlook, right?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sean said:
I do have an answer for this question in case anyone else here is hunting
one
- it was hard for me to get it figured out.

The number in the () on the cell phone calendar once it is synced to
OUtlook
is the number of years since the original occurence. THerefore, the date
you
put in for birthday or anniversary on the contact 'Detail' page is
supposed
to be a date of birth or wedding year. This way your calendar will tell
you
how old or what year anniversary it is. Of course, the silly thing is
some
people I could care less to have that info. A lot of times I meet a
colleague and just want to record the date; it is a nice touch to wish an
unsuspecting person happy birthday. Do I care what year they were born?
No
and I am not going to ask either, lol.

So now I understand although it seems a little silly to not have a
separate
field for this. I knew Outlook calculated that because I have seen it on
Custom Forms, but to not give you a sync option to not include this field
seems shortsighted.

So mystery solved, I hope this was informative.

Thanks Russ for all your help on this thread and all other MVPs and
helpful
readers as always.

Russ Valentine said:
msnews.microsoft.com

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sean said:
What should I specify for the NNTP server for these MIcrosoft groups? I
have
manually opened up OE so I can set it up.

:

Why didn't you say so? Then try the other solutions I posted. You must
also
ensure that within OE itself, it is NOT set to be the default.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
That's the first thing I had checked Russ. Under 'Internet Programs

Newsgroups' Outlook Express is the only option and is selected
already.

:

Then you haven't configured things correctly. To get the News
command
back,
go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel | Internet Options and
change
the default newsreader to Outlook Express. If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you
launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the
No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or
reboot
your
machine in order to complete the process. Not everyone is
reporting
success
with this method, but try it and see what happens. If all else
fails,
you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include
the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Nope. I have MAIL, CALENDAR, CONTACTS, TASKS, NOTES, FOLDER
LIST,
SHORTCUTS,
JOURNAL, FOLDER in that order.

:

You should see "news" in the Go Menu.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Last question on this thread then: How do I launch OE from
Outlook.
Sounds
right on the money the best option. TY

:

Just launch OE from Outlook and it will open in "news only"
mode.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
So I can continue using Outlook 2003 as I do and also set
up
OE
just
for
the
newsgroups? If that's right, cool, I will have to get back
to
my
OE.
I
used
to use newsgroups there many moons ago but also ceased
using
the
program
when
I switched to Outlook. The shortcut converted to an
Outlook
icon
when
I
installed Office.

:

It's the synch software that matters. So if indeed you are
using
Activesync
then someone in that group might have seen a similar
problem.
If
it
is
third
party or proprietary synch software, then support will
have
to
come
from
those developers.

There are a host of good, free news readers out there.
I've
only
ever
used
Outlook Express. It's not particularly good, but it's free
and
already
on
my
hard drive (whether I want it or not).
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I was going to ask for a free news reader suggestion.

The dash is a smartphone, not a pocket-pc; I don't know
if
that
matters
if
you feel the problem lies with the software itself. I
just
think
someone
else would have reported this issue by now, especially
if
it
is
sync
software
related and multiple peeps should be seeing it.

:

microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync pops up right
away.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message
Can you please better direct to those groups? I seem
to
be
having a
hard
time finding them.

:

Thank you sir, you are in fact The Man.

:

Outlook's only role in synchronization is to
provide
a
consistent
database
and interface to the various synch programs. Any
problems
that
arise
with
synchronization are a result of the synch program,
not
Outlook.
There
are
newsgroups for both Activsync and Window Mobile on
these
news
servers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message
Thank you for getting on that so quickly Russ.

However, does the sync software not pull this
information
from
my
Outlook
Contacts/Calendar? I cannot fathom why many
items
appear
incorrectly
if
the
duplication does not originate on the windows
system a
la
Outlook.
The
sync
software is just supposed to pull the data over
from
Outlook
to
the
phone
without any manipulation of data. If it was the
sync
software
I
would
think
ALL birthdays and anniversaries would have a (x)
but
that
is
simply
not
the
case. Many do appear fine.

If you are positive that this issue resides with
ActiveSync
And
the
new
WMDC
for Vista users, can you please give me
direction
to
the
appropriate
location
to seek an answer? Thanks Russ.

:

Unfortunately this is not an Outlook issue.
Synchronization
problems
are
exclusively within the purview of the
synchronization
software.
If
T-mobile
doesn't know how to support that, you might try
in
an
Activsync
or
Windows
Mobile group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in
message
Good evening and thx in advance for all help.

I have sought advice from my mobile provider
(TMobile -
using
the
dash
phone) and was told by their 3rd level
engineers
to
ask
the
Outlook
experts.

I am using Office 2003 SP 2. I am currently
using
Vista
Home
Premium
with
Mobile Device Center but have experienced the
same
issue
since
XP
Pro
SP 2
with Activesync 4.5 and earlier.

I have no duplicate birthdays or
anniversaries
for
my
contacts
in
 
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