Beta 2 Which Platform are using x86 or x64?

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Its really the RAM, I understand that Vista loves RAM, its a 64-bit
processor, so that shouldn't really be the bottleneck in performance. I will
add more RAM when RTM's. As for OS X, really, really fast, it is so
responsive, I rearly use it though because ethernet, usb are not working.
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Roy Coorne said:
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] let us take part in his eXPerience as
following:
...
The AMD is ok but, its not a star I would say with Vista on it,
regardless I am getting Glass, it feels laggy and the boot time is still
slow, its just not a performer for Vista.

What do you suggest: because of the 1.6 GHz CPU with 128k L2, because of
the 512MB RAM, because of the FX5200... what's the bottleneck?
Oh, I forgot, I am also running OS X on it. :)

Impressive, indeed! And how is it performing, compared to the various
Windows?


Roy
 
Andre Da Costa said:
Hello everyone,

I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and x64
or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ulitmate.

What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what you
do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from the x64
version that has always been the 32-bit version.

I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
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I'm running Vista Ultimate x64. I chose that over 32bit as it's x64, nuff
said.
 
Andre Da Costa said:
Hello everyone,

I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and x64
or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ulitmate.

What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what you
do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from the x64
version that has always been the 32-bit version.

I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
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I forgot this info in my post before this. I'll start over from 0.

Vista x64 - because it is x64.
Asus A8N Sli Deluxe mobo
AMDX2 DualCore 4200+
2 Western Digital 74gb 10,000 rpm as raid 0. SATA 1 :(
Western Digital NCQ 160gb sata backup drive
Iomagic Lightscribe dvd/rw DL etc
Floppy
1GB DDR Corsair ram which is the faster kind I think. 2x 512mb in dual
channel mode.
EVGA 7800 256mb PCI-X 16x video card not sli just by itself for now.
Samsung 19" SynchMaster 955DF monitor. It's not too bad. Looks much nicer in
Vista then XP that's for sure, :) Thank you Microsoft. The text is better
then in XP.
Just a normal MS internet keyboard
Logitech wireless MX-700 mouse.
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers.
Dlink 510 wireless card, not sure if that's the right model number.
Using the onboard sound from the mobo.
HP Color Laser printer LaserJet 2550L
Resolution is 32bit color 1280x1024 @75hz

Vista is installed on the 160gb backup drive since I couldn't get it to
install on the raid because there was no Vista raid controller drivers
anywhere that I could tell.

HP printer doesn't work from the default windows install. I have not tried
to find any vista x64 drivers for this yet.
Install was fine. I'm so glad MS finally got the install to where you only
click a couple buttons because XP and previous install sucked with you
having to totally babysit the install selecting everything etc.
On first boot Vista came with no sound and no wireless drivers. Running the
option from the Welcome Center to install drivers for hardware not installed
already was very nice. It found the audio drivers, but nothing for the
wireless or printer etc. The network worked fine right off the bat though,
didn't have to do any driver install etc. With XP you do have to install
drivers before getting online, not in Vista x64 beta 2, whew!! Way to go MS.

I like the GUI much much better then XP. Text is more ledgable. Colors and
windows, folders, icons etc are much nicer. Glass and Areo are cool I think.
Not great, but cool. I hate how this is using the default stupid windows xp
sounds, :( I thought Vista would have different and also better sounds for
browing the net and folders, trash can etc. I'm not sure why, but I really
like the sidebar now that I've used it. It's awesome how it is completely
transparent. It totally disappears to match the background. I love that
Vista has gadgets and they look great. The RSS feed on the sidebar will be
awesome once it works for me and once I learn it. IE7+ is nicer then
previous versions. I don't like the tab bar thing that is always there. That
button you click to open a new tab is stupid. It shouldn't be there and I
don't know how to get rid of it. I'd rather right click new tab then have
that button always in the tab bar. The start menu is a lot different. I'm
not sure I like it. I've not really been using it much. I do like how it
works with getting rid of the cascading menues, but also don't like it
totally. It's ok. It's going to take a little to get used to it, but it's ok
and I spose it does work for the most part with being user friendly in a way
and at least yer still able to get at stuff. I like Windows Mail better then
Outlook express. Colors, text, some other things. I am glad MS includes
their news server by default. This hopefully will be used a lot so people
can get help. Being able to tell what window is in front or back etc like a
lot complain about is a problem, but you can easily tell just by looking.
Sheese. The close/max and min buttons are different. This isn't good enough,
but you can tell. Hybernate is buggy. It doesn't work all the time and if it
does it has problems logging you in. My pc is set for 1 hr to go into
hybernation. Last night it was on all night and never did this. When it does
work it is locked when you come back. I don't like this since I'm the only
one using the pc. Have to change it if possible. When typing in the password
for your user account to unlock the pc it does not work a lot of times. I
type in my password to get back into windows, but it doesn't do anything.
The user icon goes away and all you see is the switch user button and I have
to click that and then re log in to get it to finally work. This is extremly
annoying, but I'm sure it'll get fixed. It dang well better. I don't like
the UAC, but I know you can turn it off via msconfig and also somewhere in
windows, but I forget where I found this at lol. I haven't turned it off as
I don't care right now, it's new and I want to use Vista at least for now in
such a way that I'm using what is new so I can learn it and get used to it.
I think to find things like the network stuff and things like that is a lot
harder to find then in XP and this really sucks. It's fine once I learn
where it's at though. The green progress bar is really nice compared to XP
and those stupid boxes as a progress bar. I like it ok I guess. It's much
more difficult when downloading files from the net in IE7+ because of the
new folder structure. I'm always having to look carefully where the
breadcrumb menu is showing and how to get there etc when saving files. I
just have to learn this now. I like it ok, but it's harder then XP, but only
because you need to get used to it. I think it's better to have that
breadcrumb thing as Mac OSX has had that ever since it came out years ago,
but it's better because it's easier to get to previous spots and to know
where you're at. I like the small shadow around the edges of windows and
stuff. It's nice.

That's all I can really think of for now. Hopefully this is a decent review
or whatever you call it.
 
x86 Beta 2 Ultimate

Thumbs up? On a Beta? Yeah, it's fun, but also frustrating... too many bugs
still... don't see how they're gonna hit the rumored public release of Jan
07, to be honest...
 
I'm running Ultimate x64 (5384)
on ASUS A8NSLI-Deluxe running AMD64 3000+ (single core revision E)
2GB Corsair PC3200
2x 7200.8 Seagate Barracuda SATA (standalone)
Asus/Nvidia 6800GT PCIe
X-Fi Platinum

but having a lot of issues:
Soundcard not working due to no drivers working on 5384/x64
2 Asus devices, ACPI related, not recognised - can't find any driver to
install with Vista
intermittent hanging
intermittent harddisk errors
and filesystem corruption that is likely caused by one of the above.
....and that's aside from other minor niggles...

I used to have some of these problems under XP, but they were fixed by
NForce driver updates. XP has been fine for me ever since... so i don't
believe the hardware could be at fault.

I hope the NVidia/ASUS/Creative drivers improve, and that Vista RTM handles
the driver problems better - hanging at random without any information is
unnacceptable - XP gave me more information when it crashed! and i thought a
beta version would have more diagnostic info.

And has anyone else been getting IE7 compatibility issues to even Ms
websites? MSN hotmail file attachments for example...

Rui Da Costa
No relation to Andre :)
 
Running X86, dissapointing so far, I ran to wizard to make sure the machines
I built met every spec for Vista and it showed that the systems were fully
compatible and all drivers were available and compatible at time of loading,
well to make a long story short 1/2 the hardware and software is not
recognised, hell, even the microsoft keyboard software can't be loaded,
logitech mouse software is a no go and an ACPI/pnpb02f driver is
incompatible, already there are complaints that windows explorer is not as
user friendly as XP and we use it alot to shift files around through the
network, hopefully these driver issues will be addressed in the near future,
I would have thought that microsoft would have had drivers for their own
branded hardware already written, the only good thing so far has been the
Nvidia driver at the Nvidia site, at least that works, right now though he
bosses are looking at it and saying maybe not to upgrading to Vista and
sticking with XP, first impressions always last don't the, I can see their
point, why buy a new OS and have to possibly buy new hardware as well if the
hardware manufacturers don't come to the party with updates for the OS.
 
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