Best Video card at this point of Vista developement

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Rockland2 said:
Hey, Ive built six or seven PC's for friends and family, and every time I've
had to deal with ATI cards I could not get the dual monitors selection to
work! ATI would only let me choose one or the other, TV or monitor. I
recently built this PC that I'm writing with now an ECS RS-482m with built in
ATI graphics with a seperate connecter to the motherboard for TV out, and I
still couldn't get it to work, I did the support thing back and forth to ATI
and AMD with e-mails, and finally just went out and bought an nVidia PCI
express card and viola, dual monitors. The folks at ATI act as if they've
never heard of this before, or am I the only person that hooks his PC up to
the TV so I can watch internet movies on the TV? Hmm. Anyways, thats my
2cents worth.
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I have only one Vista computer, but there is certainly NO TROUBLE with
the dual display on my Radeon X1950 Pro -- none. I've never hooked a TV
to a computer.

Ron
 
Well after I installed Windows Vista I had a Graphics rating of 1.9 and a
Gaming Graphics rating of 1 using a Nvidia Gforce MX4000, today I purchased a
Nvidia Geforce 6200 (256mb) and my ratings didnt improve. I tried updating my
score and everything else but the scores don't improve, meaning I cant use
Aero. I have already made sure that everything is set correctily (color,
theme, etc) but it still wont work. Please any help would be greatly
appreciated
 
I'm running Vista Ultimate on Intel Dual Core 2.8ghz with 2 gigs of 800mhz
RAM, ATI Radeon X600 PCI Express with 256 DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. Graphics
(Desktop performance for Aero) is 4.3. Gaming graphics (business and games)
is 3.7. Card was around 250 almost a year ago, should be way cheaper
nowadays. Card has dual display, DVI and VGA. I have Samsung 40" LCD usin DVI
to HDMI cable and a 22" Viewsonic using VGA to DVI connector. Card runs
perfect. I reconmend this to anyone on a budget.
 
There is no issues with ATI. The drivers for Vista are more stable than
Nvidia, whom I think were asleep at the wheel when Vista released. ATI was
more on top of things. Personally, I would use the Digital-OUT Ports on the
Video card and NOT the TV Out. They work much better and don't cause as much
color issues or flickering as with a standard 15-pin connection. You can get
a DVI to HDMI connector and plug in the later sets directly for the best
picture. I have no problems with that setup using ATI x1900 series and the
latest ATI Drivers, connecting to a monitor or HDTV. I am running
[email protected] 1080P resolution. It is very nice. Speed is great. WoW
looked never better and as stable as can be.

No issues here. Running Windows Vista Ultimate.
 
I just installed Windows Vista Ultimate on my system: ASUS PC-DL Deluxe,
dual Xeon P4s-3.06; 2 x 500GB RAID1's; 2GB RAM - and have an ATI Radeon X1650
Pro/AGP - it gets 4.3 rating by Vista and honks in both business as well as
gaming performance thus far. Rather than upgrade the entire system to a MB
that has a PCI-Express, I stuck with the one I have - AGP works fine. ATI
just released very stable Vista drivers that give you the full functionality
they had in XP and then some. You can't go wrong with ATI - I agree that
they have the most stable and best drivers currently for Vista. Color
through RGB setting on my Viewsonic VX1935wm is stunning!
Mark
 
It really all depends on how much your willing to spend and/or how much
performance you "really" need.

The 7300GS is a budget card, its not designed for heavy duty use. I built a
few vista machines this week at work with 7100GS, 7600GT and 8800GTX. I
myself use a 7900GT.

If your going to open lots of programs at the same time and really use dual
display alot, your going to need at least a 7900GT 256mb. Aero uses graphics
memory to display the 3d images. You may find that depending on the work your
doing (EG: CAD 3d in backgroud and/or more intense apps.), you will need a
7950GT-512mb or even a 8800GTS-320mb / 880GTX.

Its really hard to say what you will need, simply because each user is
different.

I would suggest that you look over the application usage of your users
before buying a load of cards.

You will be able to get away with a 7600GT, but as i said above, dual
displays and usage is going to make a bigger difference on performance in
vista than most people think. For example, using a 7100GS it could handle 1
window open, more than that and performance (frame rates) were reduced by
half. This was with a core2 duo 6300. My pc at home uses a 7900GT and a core2
duo 6400, i have no problems with display lag, nor do i have to be careful
about how many windows i have open. (100.59 drivers beta)

Good luck with ur findings for a card.
 
i was running an ATI radeon X850 pro agp card (prob less than £100 now), its
got dual output, i was runing a 19" lcd and the other display was through my
LG 50" HD plasma, all worked perfect, the display on the plasma was 1900 and
on the lcd was 1280, i could play all latest games like ghost recon advanced
warfighter at full detail no probs, ive only got rid because hav upgraded to
Sli, which i now have the x1950xtx in running on Vista no problem, but at the
moment Vista is a little slower on benchmarks than XP in the same PC, but
theyre getting there, ive tried 2x geforce 7900gs cards in but no real
support from nvidia on Vista so went back to the Ati until the DirectX 10 war
starts between the big guns, so the prices come down
hope this helps a bit, if i`m not to late
 
I am running an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS AGP card with a 5.9 rating... this on
a three year old Pentium 4 3.0gig processor with 4.0gig of memory..the card
is awesome and reasonably priced.... my overall computer rating is 4.2
should work well for you ...I would not see why not? good luck ..this is on
Vista Home Premium Upgrade edition also

joymac said:
Mainly for business Also should include that the cards I will be looking for
are AGP. This is going to be a recomended product so stability is importannt
as well if I can give a report that it has an index of ?? that much better
thanks for the info.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:56:45 -0200, "Marcos Kleine"

Well, I still don't get what the problem is with my setup. I have an
Nvidia 8800 gtx with the 100.64 driver and vista ultimate gives me a
graphics rating of 1.0! Huh?
I've tried refreshing it at least ten times and still I have a 1.0.
Hmmff.
 
I use a 7300 GT 512 MB and it scores a 4.2 on Vista Experience rating. It is
a PCI-E Card but may be available in AGP but you are better off using PCI-E.
Why spend money on something that is outdated. It runs perfectly with Vista
and is made for Windows Aero. It can also run dual screens. I used a Tv and
monitor. For $120.00 it is a very cheap card and can play all the games I
know off. That's my 2 cents. You are better off just sticking a PCI-E card in
rather that use an AGP as it has low banwith and transfer speeds.
 
I have a nvidia 8800gtx 768mb onboard ddr
2.4core 2 duo
asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard
2 gig of ocz 6400 ddr 2
twin western digital 10,000rpm raptors in raid 0
my score is overall 5.9 on vista ultimate...
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I purchased a card from a company called EVGA marketing the nvidia 8800GTx as
companies do. I downloaded the 100.64 driver and it still had problems. I
then went to the EVGA company site and downloaded it there and it worlks
fine. Don't know if there is a difference but if your Nvidia card has another
Label on it like EVGA or some other you may check out there site to see if
there driver works. Hopefully it does. I am getting a rating of 5.9 on mine
at the moment.
 
I'm sure you've already decided but if I were you I would wait for an ATI
Dx10 card.

I've used both and before I finally went to ATI (which I really wanted to
avoid) I tried everything to justify staying with nVidia but couldn't.

Therefore, regarding choosing between nVidia & ATI:

nVidia are slow and buggy to deliver drivers to their cards. Since that is
true for drivers I assume it's also true for their HW. Where there is smoke
there is fire. I'm still waiting for a driver for my Tablet (video) GeForce
FX Go5200) from nVideo and noticed when I went looking they have yet to get a
driver out of Beta for Vista 64.

I have an ATI x600 in my Desktop, which had a released driver for Vista x64
on January 31st. Of course if I set up EVERTHING to 'Quality' rather than a
mix between Quality and Performance or just strictly Performance the driver
starts behaving badly. Now that the graphics of Windows is so tightly
interwoven with the core of the OSes functionality I will err on the side of
choosing Performance and let Windows handle the 'Quality'.

I'll be getting an ATI Dx10 card when the price isn't stupid (I wish some
people wouldn't run out & get the 'latest' just to go neato. Them video cards
would be more reasonably priced.
 
Running a GeForce 7800 GS (factory overclocked) on AGP 8X and have a 5.9
rating. Good priced card for older AGP style motherboards. Runs Vista Home
Premium great with the Aero interface. Games run good as well with the new
DX10.
 
When it comes to graphics cards the difference between the big two are fairly
clear cut. nVidia typically has the edge in raw speed and power while ATI has
the edge in image quality and driver support. For me the driver support is
the biggest deal followed by the image quality.

Depending on how much horsepwoer you really need ATI has cards in AGP and
PCIe going all the way up to X1950 Pro from some of their partners. For cost
reasons I would look at X1650 based cards if you do not need the raw speed,
however even the X1950 pros can be had for around $200.00
 
I'm using a EVGA 7600 GS with fan myself. 256 a fan (not the heatsink) DVI
dual Monitor support.I've got it hooked up to my TV! No problem. I've never
used one before this. It's PCI -Ex16,and I'm using the driver off the disk!
Looks great runs cool.what more do ya want? ya know? Around 120 at Tiger
Direct. Not bad.I even use a video capture card so I record off Direct TV and
burn. No issues!
 
Vista 64 Ultimate.

I am using a GTX NVidia GeForce 8800 GTS and getting 5.9 ratings.

This is an SLI card, and performs superbly.

Of course, this computer won't recover from either sleep or hibernation, but
you have to give up something... I expect NVidia to have this fixed soon.

But my word, the graphics are nice...

Robert
 
I HAVE alivenf6g-dvi,
AMD X64 4200X2 EN7300 AND GE6100

2G ram I DONT KNOW WHAT U GUYS DO I DONT HAVE ANY LAGG OR ...... IM
PLAYING BATTLIELD 2142 WITH 64PEOPLE NOT WITH EVEN ONE SCRATCH
 
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