Benchmarking speed

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Bill

Repair Install. It's you're choice. The HD Tune result points in
another direction anyway.

What is the make and model of your hard disk? How old is it?
I would test the hard disk using one of the manufacturers
utilities.

This describes the Validation process you mentioned earlier.
http://snipurl.com/l6jz

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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Gerry said:
Bill

Repair Install. It's you're choice. The HD Tune result points in
another direction anyway.

What is the make and model of your hard disk?
Click to expand...
Western Digital -- 80 GB --- less than a year old...
and probably not more than 1000 hours in use
How old is it?
I would test the hard disk using one of the manufacturers
utilities.
Click to expand...
Good idea, Gerry.....after I have a solid speedy OS
back as my Master.
This describes the Validation process you mentioned earlier.
http://snipurl.com/l6jz
Click to expand...

I saw the process, and started it, but it got snagged
somewhere. Not marked as invalid or anything, I just
couldn't find where to go and lost patience. Another
case of where the scientist in me said "Pursue that
research!" and the practical engineer said "What's your
real goal, to get a speedy system back on the air?
Quit this research."

Thanks again for sticking with me. When I get the faster
system running, I'll check its transfer rates.
 
Bill

Validation. It is probably that you need to say yes to running
Active X. When you get the Information PopUp look for a
bar across the page towards the top of the screen. It gives
you an option to say Yes. You may need to do this before
cancelling the Information PopUp.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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Gerry said:
Bill

But I never need to run chkdsk , except once every six months if that.

Have you looked at HD Tune?
Try HD Tune (freeware). Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on C:\ under Drive letter
and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.

Also do a full surface scan with HD Tune.
Click to expand...
An update, Gerry. Putting the old HD aside, after burning a CD
with all pertinent directories......I mounted my backup clone
and updated it from the CD. I then ran HD Tune.....and I believe
that I am posting here the results:

HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 Information

Firmware version : 05.01C05
Serial number : WD-WCAM96492490
Capacity : 74.5 GB (~80.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : CloneFrom D-I-122005
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 76.31%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

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I don't see there the benchmark which I ran.
I believe that it shows maximum transfer rate
56 MB/second, and watching it, it wanders down
to 3 MB/sec in short spurts, but mostly above
50. I did some other HD Tune tests and will go
back there. Learning to use it is not an
instantaneous possibility.

I believe that I am now up and running on what was
a backup clone, updated, making my previous Master
obsolete. I suppose that I should repeat all HD Tune
tests on that slow HD, but more practical would be
to make a new clone, on that HD, and *then* see if
it is still slow, meaning that the HD is defective,
or it became speedy, meaning that, except for the
*why*, "All's well that ends well.....".
 
Bill

I have been playing with HD Tune for a couple of months. What
I like is that it is easy to use and gives information. A drawback
is that the relevance and meaning of the information can be difficult
to interpret. However, armed with information you can search for
answers.

You posted the contents of the Information tab. The contents of the
Health tab can be more intriguing.

What is the make and model of the problematic hard drive?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Gerry said:
Bill

I have been playing with HD Tune for a couple of months. What
I like is that it is easy to use and gives information. A drawback
is that the relevance and meaning of the information can be difficult
to interpret. However, armed with information you can search for
answers.

You posted the contents of the Information tab. The contents of the
Health tab can be more intriguing.

What is the make and model of the problematic hard drive?
Click to expand...
Yes, I agree, and thank you for directing me to it.
I see that it gives a lot of information, but I'm not
good at manipulating it yet. I did see it reporting
the very significant difference speed.

I thought I had reported on the hard drive......maybe
I cut that out of the HD Tune report. My drives are
almost all Western Digital, WD800JB..

Bill L.
 
Gerry said:
Bill

I have been playing with HD Tune for a couple of months. What
I like is that it is easy to use and gives information. A drawback
is that the relevance and meaning of the information can be difficult
to interpret. However, armed with information you can search for
answers.

You posted the contents of the Information tab. The contents of the
Health tab can be more intriguing.
Click to expand...
Oh, yes, I can access the Health tab.
But I have to learn what the data means.
I haven't read any of their readme's yet...
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HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 200 200 51 364 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 166 160 21 2683 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 790 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 98 98 0 1731 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok

(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 788 Ok

(C2) Temperature 101 81 0 42 Ok

(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 1 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 200 0 1 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok


Power On Time : 1731
Health Status : Ok
What is the make and model of the problematic hard drive?
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Shown above....Western Digital WD800JB
William B. Lurie
 
Bill

They all say OK for that drive? You will get a better
idea as they change over time.

What about the problem drive?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Gerry said:
Bill

They all say OK for that drive? You will get a better
idea as they change over time.

What about the problem drive?
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Oh, I'll go back to the problem drive.....
next year (that joke wears very thin this time
of year). Thanks for the extremely valuable
assistance.......and I'll report more as workload
allows.

Bill L.
 
Oh, I'll go back to the problem drive.....
next year (that joke wears very thin this time
of year). Thanks for the extremely valuable
assistance.......and I'll report more as workload
allows.

Bill L.
Click to expand...
Gerry, the new day and year have arrivd, and I
re-installed the 'problem' drive and did HD Tune.
I think that I have the results saved, and will try to Paste them in here:

HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJA0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 200 200 51 994 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 166 163 21 2683 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 99 99 0 1976 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 95 95 0 3750 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok

(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 0 1956 Ok

(C2) Temperature 103 82 0 40 Ok

(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 12 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 199 0 12 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 188 0 2729 Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 200 200 51 9 Ok


Power On Time : 3750
Health Status : Ok

HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJA0 Information

Firmware version : 05.01C05
Serial number : WD-WCAM93054856
Capacity : 74.5 GB (~80.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : CloneFrom D-I-100605
Capacity : 14527 MB
Usage : 61.51%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : H:\
Label : D-I-010805
Capacity : 12197 MB
Usage : 50.62%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : D:\
Label : D-I-100205
Capacity : 14198 MB
Usage : 46.55%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : G:\
Label : D-I-100605
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 55.95%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 5
Drive letter : O:\
Label : D-I-091805
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 56.29%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 6
Drive letter : P:\
Label : D-I-122805
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 59.94%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Does that info give you clues to a possible reason for
what I saw as slow performance? The Benchmark showed a start
at 56MB but between 50% and 60% it dropped all the way
down to 13 MB/sec.....

Bill Lurie
 
Gerry, the new day and year have arrivd, and I
re-installed the 'problem' drive and did HD Tune.
I think that I have the results saved, and will try to Paste them in here:

HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJA0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 200 200 51 994 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 166 163 21 2683 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 99 99 0 1976 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 95 95 0 3750 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok
(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 100 51 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 0 1956 Ok
(C2) Temperature 103 82 0 40 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 12 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 199 0 12 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 188 0 2729 Ok
(C8) Write Error Rate 200 200 51 9 Ok

Power On Time : 3750
Health Status : Ok

HD Tune: WDC WD800JB-00JJA0 Information

Firmware version : 05.01C05
Serial number : WD-WCAM93054856
Capacity : 74.5 GB (~80.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : CloneFrom D-I-100605
Capacity : 14527 MB
Usage : 61.51%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : H:\
Label : D-I-010805
Capacity : 12197 MB
Usage : 50.62%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : D:\
Label : D-I-100205
Capacity : 14198 MB
Usage : 46.55%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : G:\
Label : D-I-100605
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 55.95%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 5
Drive letter : O:\
Label : D-I-091805
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 56.29%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 6
Drive letter : P:\
Label : D-I-122805
Capacity : 11797 MB
Usage : 59.94%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Does that info give you clues to a possible reason for
what I saw as slow performance? The Benchmark showed a start
at 56MB but between 50% and 60% it dropped all the way
down to 13 MB/sec.....

Bill Lurie
Click to expand...
Let me add the following, 40 minutes later.
I did a chkdsk before switching back to my sppedier
system and HD, to make sure. I got an unpleasant
surprise. It ran the fourth segment in as short a
time as I have ever seen it. The only change that I
can recall making, was to Remove Microsoft's Anti-Spyware
Beta. I do have that still running on this speedier
syntem, to which I have returned. Now I don't have a
bad system to complain about. Perhaps the HD Tune
records I sent (above) will tell you something. I hate
it when an intermittent stops acting up, just when you're
taking steps to pin it down. Ah, wel....
WBL
 
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