Avast 4.6 - This is an improvement?

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So, out of curiosity, exactly what type of issues does ZA Pro have with
Avast 4.6 if Privacy is on in ZA??? I'm just curious as to what to expect
here as so far I haven't seen any problems, but certainly I'd like to avoid
any if I can!!!

It has something to do with the cookies and ad blocking. I believe that
the new Avast does Ad blocking. Right now, I have my ZA settings at Medium
blocking for cookies and None for Ad blocking. I also have the proxy
setting suggested in Firefox and right now that seems to be working.
However, I still have problems with my local libary's pages which seems to
be related to the ad blocking feature of Avast.

Patty
 
will pausing the shield also solve the problem? I like to leave some of
the shields in the pause state in the event I need some quick protection.

I paused WebShield only (you can turn off WebShield only also and leave the
rest on) and while I found that helpful, right now in ZA, I have cookies
set at Medium and Ad Blocking at None. I also have the suggested proxy
setting made in my Firefox. This seems to be working, but I will have to
use it more to see if it's still causing problems. However, even without
the WebShield on, Avast does some kind of Ad blocking which still appears
to work even with WebShield off. This causes occasional problems for me
with my local library's webpages. A link there no longer works properly.
I have the full error message for that, if you're interested. I'm
wondering now if it's possible to get the prior version of Avast from
somewhere and be done with all this until they figure out what the problem
is.

Patty
 
I believe that
the new Avast does Ad blocking.

I don't think so. I turned off the ZA ad blocker and was getting plenty of
ads.

Btw, do you know if the p2p shield is necessary if you aren't using torrent
or Kazaa like programs? How about the network shield. Is it necessary if
you aren't on a network, or can all broadband connections be considered a
network? Isn't a network shield similar to a firewall in a way? I'm sure
internet messaging is only needed if you use the MS Instant messenger or
AOL's IM.
 
I don't think so. I turned off the ZA ad blocker and was getting plenty of
ads.

Btw, do you know if the p2p shield is necessary if you aren't using torrent
or Kazaa like programs? How about the network shield. Is it necessary if
you aren't on a network, or can all broadband connections be considered a
network? Isn't a network shield similar to a firewall in a way? I'm sure
internet messaging is only needed if you use the MS Instant messenger or
AOL's IM.

I don't know about P2P, it's not even installed with mine since when I
originally installed Avast, you could choose which services you wanted
installed and I never installed it on this system. I imagine if you're not
using that service you could just stop that "Provider" in Avast by right
clicking on the little "a" icon in your taskbar. As far as the Network one
goes, this must also be something new, but I am on a home network but using
ZA for protection. What I would think Avast's Network protection does is
to keep viruses from spreading across your network, I'm not sure if ZA
would do that. If you do not have a network of anykind, I would think you
could also stop that as well.

As far as ads go, I use a Hosts file which blocks them. However, now the
spot where the ad would go mentions "avast! Web Proxy" and explains why it
was blocked. I don't know if this is because I'm using a hosts file and
the suggested Avast proxy setting in my Foxfire. I'll have to check IE
since I did not make that change there yet.

Patty
 
I don't know about P2P, it's not even installed with mine since when I
originally installed Avast, you could choose which services you wanted
installed and I never installed it on this system. I imagine if you're not
using that service you could just stop that "Provider" in Avast by right
clicking on the little "a" icon in your taskbar. As far as the Network one
goes, this must also be something new, but I am on a home network but using
ZA for protection. What I would think Avast's Network protection does is
to keep viruses from spreading across your network, I'm not sure if ZA
would do that. If you do not have a network of anykind, I would think you
could also stop that as well.

As far as ads go, I use a Hosts file which blocks them. However, now the
spot where the ad would go mentions "avast! Web Proxy" and explains why it
was blocked. I don't know if this is because I'm using a hosts file and
the suggested Avast proxy setting in my Foxfire. I'll have to check IE
since I did not make that change there yet.

Patty

I checked IE (which I keep mostly for Windows updates) and because I didn't
have the Avast now recommended proxy information in it, my Hosts file was
no longer working and I got ads galore. So, I added that info to IE and
the ads are now gone.

Patty
 
Patty said:
I checked IE (which I keep mostly for Windows updates) and because I
didn't
have the Avast now recommended proxy information in it, my Hosts file was
no longer working and I got ads galore. So, I added that info to IE and
the ads are now gone.

Patty

Patty,

Being fairly new to all things AV/FW/etc, I haven't played with any Hosts
file and proxy info - could you possibly expand a little for us useless folk
out here how this all works??? I'm like you - have Avast Pro and Zone Alarm
Pro, but only run IE and OE (XP Pro SP2) (also use Ad-Aware and Spybot
S&D) - since I've been running a router ZA has basically zero logged inward
attempts (whoo-hoo! the event log is now empty!!), but of course ads and
cookies like causing fun!

My problem - what bloody settings do you set on what? Windows has it's
privacy settings for Ads and cookies, then ZA has its privacy settings, the
whatever settings Avast also has!!! ARRGG!!

Anyway, composed now... What works best for you???
 
Moe said:
This may sound like a ridiculous question when they say "proxy
server name: local host, do they mean to type in the words "local
host", use your IP address, or some other address?

It is not words, but word. "localhost"

As I've never found the need for a proxy server, I don't have an
answer to the rest of your question.
 
I checked IE (which I keep mostly for Windows updates) and because I
didn't have the Avast now recommended proxy information in it, my
Hosts file was no longer working and I got ads galore. So, I added
that info to IE and the ads are now gone.

what settings did you use to change the proxy? I used the settings they
suggested and couldn't connect to the net.

This may sound like a ridiculous question when they say "proxy server name:
local host, do they mean to type in the words "local host", use your IP
address, or some other address?
 
Patty,

Being fairly new to all things AV/FW/etc, I haven't played with any Hosts
file and proxy info - could you possibly expand a little for us useless folk
out here how this all works??? I'm like you - have Avast Pro and Zone Alarm
Pro, but only run IE and OE (XP Pro SP2) (also use Ad-Aware and Spybot
S&D) - since I've been running a router ZA has basically zero logged inward
attempts (whoo-hoo! the event log is now empty!!), but of course ads and
cookies like causing fun!

My problem - what bloody settings do you set on what? Windows has it's
privacy settings for Ads and cookies, then ZA has its privacy settings, the
whatever settings Avast also has!!! ARRGG!!

Anyway, composed now... What works best for you???

Right now, I've turned Webshield off and leave my Ad Setting in ZA on high
and Cookies on Medium. I'm happy with this. If you want to use Avast's
WebShield along with ZoneAlarm Pro, you need to set a proxy server in IE or
you won't be able to access any webpages. In IE Tools -> Internet Options
-> Connections Tab -> Lan Settings -> Tick the Proxy Server box and choose
Advanced. For the HTTP setting ONLY enter Proxy Server Name: localhost and
Proxy Server Port: 12080.

Patty
 
what settings did you use to change the proxy? I used the settings they
suggested and couldn't connect to the net.

This may sound like a ridiculous question when they say "proxy server name:
local host, do they mean to type in the words "local host", use your IP
address, or some other address?

Proxy server name is localhost (one word) Port is 12080. This is for the
HTTP setting only.

Patty
 
Patty said:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:00:05 +1100, Martin wrote:
[SNIP]


Right now, I've turned Webshield off and leave my Ad Setting in ZA on high
and Cookies on Medium. I'm happy with this. If you want to use Avast's
WebShield along with ZoneAlarm Pro, you need to set a proxy server in IE
or
you won't be able to access any webpages. In IE Tools -> Internet Options
-> Connections Tab -> Lan Settings -> Tick the Proxy Server box and choose
Advanced. For the HTTP setting ONLY enter Proxy Server Name: localhost
and
Proxy Server Port: 12080.

Patty

Thanks Patty. I've also disabled Web Shield in Avast (hey, wasn't there
before so what's the harm!!) and let ZA keep doing what it's been doing well
so far. Maybe when the next Avast update comes out I'll try Web Shield
again, although I can't say I had many problems anyway (maybe I just didn't
try and view the problem sites??)

Anyway, thanks for your info.
 
This may sound like a ridiculous question when they say "proxy server name:
local host, do they mean to type in the words "local host", use your IP
address, or some other address?

You can enter localhost or 127.0.0.1 It is the loopback address.

A proxy server might be running on any machine on your network (or the
Internet). Entering the loopback address is telling the client program
that the proxy server program is running on the same machine (as the
client program).

If you look in your hosts file you should see a line which has
localhost pointing to 127.0.0.1 This is usually the only entry.

Some people will have a hosts file with a lot of other entries for
known advertising sites also pointing to 127.0.0.1 which is a
technique to stop connections to those sites by pointing them to the
local address and so they return a standard 404 (not found) error if
accessed.

Jim.
 
Thanks Patty. I've also disabled Web Shield in Avast (hey, wasn't there
before so what's the harm!!) and let ZA keep doing what it's been doing well
so far. Maybe when the next Avast update comes out I'll try Web Shield
again, although I can't say I had many problems anyway (maybe I just didn't
try and view the problem sites??)

Anyway, thanks for your info.

You're welcome, Martin. From what I can tell from Avast's explanation of
WebShield, it's additonal protection for you when you download files. It's
supposed to find viruses during the download although Avast's Resident
Shield is supposed to keep them from running should you click on a virus
infected file that you've downloaded. I figure that I don't really need
that since I hardly download from the internet and mostly from reputable
websites. And, since I run Resident Shield, I should be protected even in
the unlikely event I do download an infected file. I also use Firefox as a
browser which is supposed to be safer than IE and less likely to cause
those types of problems while browsing. For me, Webshield is not worth the
hassle and aggravation to get it to work with ZoneAlarm Pro.

Patty
 
You're welcome, Martin. From what I can tell from Avast's explanation of
WebShield, it's additonal protection for you when you download files. It's
supposed to find viruses during the download although Avast's Resident
Shield is supposed to keep them from running should you click on a virus
infected file that you've downloaded. I figure that I don't really need
that since I hardly download from the internet and mostly from reputable
websites. And, since I run Resident Shield, I should be protected even in
the unlikely event I do download an infected file. I also use Firefox as a
browser which is supposed to be safer than IE and less likely to cause
those types of problems while browsing. For me, Webshield is not worth the
hassle and aggravation to get it to work with ZoneAlarm Pro.

Patty

I was using the Avast freebie version for a few months. After I decided
to download another trial anti-trojan program, I found I had 5 different
backdoor trojans on my machine.

I downloaded a second AV product and it confirmed what the first had
alerted on, plus two viruses.

That explained the crashes and blue screens I was getting.

What saved me from having my machine turned into a zombie was my Kerio
firewall, I guess.

Anyway, so much for Avast - of any version.

I now have Proantivirus, Kaspersky Personal Pro and TDS3 on my machine.

Just thought I'd state my own experience with Avast.
 
Patty skrev:
infected file that you've downloaded. I figure that I don't really need
that since I hardly download from the internet and mostly from reputable

The Web Shield also check HTML-pages and active content too. Try
enabling the "Show detailed info" then you can see what it scans
 
[SNIP]


I was using the Avast freebie version for a few months. After I decided
to download another trial anti-trojan program, I found I had 5 different
backdoor trojans on my machine.

I downloaded a second AV product and it confirmed what the first had
alerted on, plus two viruses.

That explained the crashes and blue screens I was getting.

What saved me from having my machine turned into a zombie was my Kerio
firewall, I guess.

Anyway, so much for Avast - of any version.

I now have Proantivirus, Kaspersky Personal Pro and TDS3 on my machine.

Just thought I'd state my own experience with Avast.

Hmm, interesting... My own experience was the opposite..

I was running AVG Free for many, many years and rather happy with it, until
ver7 came out. After getting sick of the problems, and my daughter
complaining that AVG was slowing her computer too much, I downloaded Avast
and put it on her machine. Avast detected 3 infections that AVG had missed
and removed one infection that AVG had detected yet didn't do anything
about......

So far I've had very little problems with Avast - even after the 4.6 update
I haven't suffered the problems that others seem to have. NNTP scanner
seems to work very well, and Internet sites also seemed OK, even better than
before in some cases... Maybe I'm just lucky!!!!
 
[SNIP]


I was using the Avast freebie version for a few months. After I decided
to download another trial anti-trojan program, I found I had 5 different
backdoor trojans on my machine.

I downloaded a second AV product and it confirmed what the first had
alerted on, plus two viruses.

That explained the crashes and blue screens I was getting.

What saved me from having my machine turned into a zombie was my Kerio
firewall, I guess.

Anyway, so much for Avast - of any version.

I now have Proantivirus, Kaspersky Personal Pro and TDS3 on my machine.

Just thought I'd state my own experience with Avast.

Hmm, interesting... My own experience was the opposite..

I was running AVG Free for many, many years and rather happy with it, until
ver7 came out. After getting sick of the problems, and my daughter
complaining that AVG was slowing her computer too much, I downloaded Avast
and put it on her machine. Avast detected 3 infections that AVG had missed
and removed one infection that AVG had detected yet didn't do anything
about......

So far I've had very little problems with Avast - even after the 4.6 update
I haven't suffered the problems that others seem to have. NNTP scanner
seems to work very well, and Internet sites also seemed OK, even better than
before in some cases... Maybe I'm just lucky!!!!
I don't know what the reason for the failure of that program was, and I
left out one other detail. Trojan Hunter, which I also had installed
and up-to-date with its database, also didn't catch a single one of
those trojans.

I guess there is so much garbage floating around that no one program is
going to get it all. However, I do believe the three programs I now
have stand a dang good chance of succeeding.
 
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