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Hello,

Can someone please respond so I can get started on fixes the problems we are
having.
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File Menu | Publish Web / Site and enter the location as ftp:// <location> provide by web host, if
no extensions on the live remote server or http://www.domainname.com if the extensions are
installed.

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Hello Kevin:

I just finished rebuilding our site and after I added the links to the home
page, I went to the preview in browser and I am still seeing a second set of
links at the bottom of the page (lower left). Why is that? I also added the
guest book and when the script is added to the page it places the book at the
top of the page and the only way I know how to get it to move is to space it
down. When I view it in the browser it also is out of proportion as it too
is at the bottom of the page, but the page extends down farther. I have not
done anything else to this site after I created it (in FP2003) and it is a
clean site, so what in the world is going on. It is 3 AM and I need to go to
bed, but I would really appreciate if you or someone there would help me to
get this site to view correctly.

Bob
 
I only see 1 set of links on the left
Clear your browser cache

PS
The space bar is not a design tool
-use table for page layout, not the space bar
And don't use any word/shape art
- only visible by users w/ IE and uses absolute positioning that is not supported correctly by all browsers

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| Hello Kevin:
|
| I just finished rebuilding our site and after I added the links to the home
| page, I went to the preview in browser and I am still seeing a second set of
| links at the bottom of the page (lower left). Why is that? I also added the
| guest book and when the script is added to the page it places the book at the
| top of the page and the only way I know how to get it to move is to space it
| down. When I view it in the browser it also is out of proportion as it too
| is at the bottom of the page, but the page extends down farther. I have not
| done anything else to this site after I created it (in FP2003) and it is a
| clean site, so what in the world is going on. It is 3 AM and I need to go to
| bed, but I would really appreciate if you or someone there would help me to
| get this site to view correctly.
|
| Bob
|
| "rjlump54" wrote:
|
| > Hello,
| >
| > Can someone please respond so I can get started on fixes the problems we are
| > having.
| > Help
| >
| > "rjlump54" wrote:
| >
| > > Hello again,
| > >
| > > So that I stay on track, if you say it isn't good to have Word docs assoc.
| > > with FP03, what do I use to replace that doc.
| > > example: I have a doc with names of people requesting prayer. How and what
| > > do I link that info to if not a Word doc? Should I reconstruct my sites
| > > pages before I publish it with FP or will FP overwrite and fix these issues?
| > >
| > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
| > >
| > > > It looks to me like you've made a whole bunch of mistakes, and I'm not sure
| > > > which one caused the anomaly with the Navigation bar fiasco. It is likely
| > > > that you didn't publish correctly. FrontPage server extensions generally
| > > > have problems when pages are uploaded via FTP or any other means other than
| > > > publishing through FrontPage.
| > > >
| > > > Among the other mistakes I saw were:
| > > >
| > > > Using non-breaking space character sequences ( ) for positioning. All
| > > > men may be created equal, but all browsers are not. In addition, all
| > > > computers are not. And browsers on the same computer may be different sizes
| > > > (you can size a browser window). Therefore, using spaces for positioning is
| > > > a bad idea. There are HTML entities for doing that sort of thing, and they
| > > > are easily available through the FrontPage Editor interface.
| > > >
| > > > Also, it looks like you did a lot of your composition in Microsoft Word, and
| > > > pasted the content into your web page. Microsoft Word uses a proprietary
| > > > binary formatting system, and translating Word formatting and/or artwork to
| > > > HTML is seldom pretty. In fact, depending on the browser used to view the
| > > > page, it can be downright disastrous. Again, using FrontPage Editor to do
| > > > your layout and composition work will prevent this sort of thing from
| > > > happening.
| > > >
| > > > Remember that in HTML (which is the format that all web documents, Microsoft
| > > > or not, use), What you see is not exactly What you get, regardless of the
| > > > software you use to do your design. Understanding a bit about HTML will
| > > > prove invaluable to you in creating your web site. It's really not that hard
| > > > to learn. You can learn a lot by looking at the HTML source code that
| > > > FrontPage creates when you use its visual interface to create your web
| > > > pages. Hit ENTER and see the <p> </p> code that FrontPage puts in.
| > > > That's a paragraph. Insert an image and see the <img src="somefile.jpg"> tag
| > > > that FrontPage puts in. Pretty soon, you'll know almost everything there is
| > > > to know about HTML, and how to make it look good in every browser.
| > > >
| > > > And while you're at it, download the free FireFox browser for testing. It is
| > > > an excellent and free Mozilla browser, which will show you how your web site
| > > > will look in almost every browser except Internet Explorer (until version 7
| > > > comes out, that is). Get in the habit of testing your pages in both IE and
| > > > FireFox, and you'll be in good shape.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > HTH,
| > > >
| > > > Kevin Spencer
| > > > Microsoft MVP
| > > > ..Net Developer
| > > > If you push something hard enough,
| > > > it will fall over.
| > > > - Fudd's First Law of Opposition
| > > >
| > > > | > > > >I am replying because I didn't see an answer to my question. Using FP 2003
| > > > > we created our site and when I opened it today, I am seeing a second set
| > > > > of
| > > > > navigation bars in the lower left bottom of the page (only one was
| > > > > created).
| > > > > Also on our "Ministries" page the images at the top are reversed and they
| > > > > didn't start out that way. Can you help me. Address:
| > > > > www.bmbc-lugoffsc.org
| > > > > Bob
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
I'm still waiting for someone to answer my questions.

Dude, we all have to rest sometimes! Even God takes one day a week off, you
know!

;-)


Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
If you push something hard enough,
it will fall over.
- Fudd's First Law of Opposition
 
I concur. The extra links are gone. However, I would have to ask what
exactly is meant by a "clean site," as the HTML is still literally peppered
with Office markup, indicating that Word was used to create it rather than
FrontPage. There are still lots and lots of non-breaking spaces being used
for positioning. In fact, the HTML doesn't look much different (if at all)
than it did yesterday. If by "clean site" you mean you published it
correctly, that would account for the duplicate menu problem being solved, I
think. And that's a very good thing! But it's got a long way to go before I
would call the HTML "clean."

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HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
If you push something hard enough,
it will fall over.
- Fudd's First Law of Opposition
 
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