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D. Spencer Hines
Sounds Sensible.
I use Norton.
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I use Norton.
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D. Spencer Hines
Try teaching Grandmother to suck eggs next time.
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D. Spencer Hines
No, you said: "I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first
five."
_AT LEAST_
DSH
five."
_AT LEAST_
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Leythos
Normally the ignorant get tired of having to clean their machines and
learn just enough to keep it from happening again.
The first time they have to pay good money to get their machine cleaned
is a real eye opener and many start learning about what caused it and
how to avoid it.
As for the others, well, they are terminally brain damaged - these are
the ones that you can't help.
As for maintaining apps, I run a Antivirus program and three manual
scanners once in a blue-moon to test my own measures. It only takes a
couple minutes to launch them and update and then start testing...
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Shenan Stanley
Shenan Stanley wrote
Yes - which still is completely accurate.
You seem to enjoy taking things out of context..
Let's quote all that you left out and should have left in, shall we?
"Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits -
two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not
roll-your-own) do nothing more than install registry values that will
basically keep you from visiting some of the worst pages out there.
- Subsets and Supersets. If there was one that caught and eliminated
everything - my list would grow shorter. There isn't. I have had luck with
those first three getting most things - and what those won't get, number 6
and 7 usually flushed out. I don't suggest (off the cuff) they install and
use #6 or #7 (CWShredder and HijackThis) because those take a little
knowledge - well - at least HijackThis does. I may rethink and say "At
least the first 6" from now on. *grin* Or I might remove "Bazooka"
altogether. Usually - if it finds something - it was before AdAware and
Spybot ran - and then it could be ran again after those two ran and find
nothing."
Now - my saying "at least the first five" would imply to any rational
thinking person that they should install those and *if* they still have
trouble with the spyware they are trying to get rid of - go down the list
and continue cleaning. Those first 5 have proven over and over to be
sufficient for most cases - both for cleanup and immunization.
So - I suggest the first five - NOT roll your own.
If they have more trouble than those can handle - I give them options for
that as well.
D. Spencer Hines said:
Yes - which still is completely accurate.
You seem to enjoy taking things out of context..
Let's quote all that you left out and should have left in, shall we?
"Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits -
two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not
roll-your-own) do nothing more than install registry values that will
basically keep you from visiting some of the worst pages out there.
- Subsets and Supersets. If there was one that caught and eliminated
everything - my list would grow shorter. There isn't. I have had luck with
those first three getting most things - and what those won't get, number 6
and 7 usually flushed out. I don't suggest (off the cuff) they install and
use #6 or #7 (CWShredder and HijackThis) because those take a little
knowledge - well - at least HijackThis does. I may rethink and say "At
least the first 6" from now on. *grin* Or I might remove "Bazooka"
altogether. Usually - if it finds something - it was before AdAware and
Spybot ran - and then it could be ran again after those two ran and find
nothing."
Now - my saying "at least the first five" would imply to any rational
thinking person that they should install those and *if* they still have
trouble with the spyware they are trying to get rid of - go down the list
and continue cleaning. Those first 5 have proven over and over to be
sufficient for most cases - both for cleanup and immunization.
So - I suggest the first five - NOT roll your own.
If they have more trouble than those can handle - I give them options for
that as well.
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D. Spencer Hines
Hilarious!
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"I may rethink and say "At least the first 6" from now on."
Shenan Stanley
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So now we are up to SIX Anti-Spyware Programs.
Lunacy For The General User!
Stanley is talking about people who have suffered an INFECTION and come to
HIM for ASSISTANCE -- a TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBSET of PEOPLE.
Ergo, Shenan's recommendations are eyewash.
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Long, Pontificating, Inapposite Verbiage Snipped...
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"I may rethink and say "At least the first 6" from now on."
Shenan Stanley
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So now we are up to SIX Anti-Spyware Programs.
Lunacy For The General User!
Stanley is talking about people who have suffered an INFECTION and come to
HIM for ASSISTANCE -- a TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBSET of PEOPLE.
Ergo, Shenan's recommendations are eyewash.
'Nuff Said.
DSH
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Shenan Stanley
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Watchman
I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they find anything.
Then again, I don't visit warez sites either.
Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me
telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or
program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them?
Watchman
Then again, I don't visit warez sites either.
Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me
telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or
program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them?
Watchman
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DrJoel
The biggest problem that I have run across are people with slow dial upTonyo said:
who don't spend the time to update the anti spy wear programs. They
complain "it takes so long I don't have all day".
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Shenan Stanley
Watchman said:I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they
find anything. Then again, I don't visit warez sites either.
Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are
from me telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall
being disabled or program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot
ignore them?
Watchman
http://www.safer-networking.org/uk/faq/46.html
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D. Spencer Hines
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Hilarious!
What you really need to write is:
"How To Answer Questions The Smart Way"
Deus Vult
'Nuff Said.
DSH
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Ron Martell
D. Spencer Hines said:
That (Norton) is not sensible. Probably the worst possible choice in
terms of performance, stability, reliability, and quality of updates.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Ron Martell
Watchman said:I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they find anything.
Then again, I don't visit warez sites either.
Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me
telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or
program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them?
Watchman
Which updates have you disabled? Some application programs or Windows
Updates?
If you have disabled Windows Updates then you are vulnerable to
attacks as exploits to take advantage of newly discovered security
flaws in Windows are being released onto the Internet within hours of
the security flaws being announced.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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D. Spencer Hines
Norton has protected me just fine for decades.
Of course I have additional resources as a backup.
But I've never had to call on them
'Nuff Said.
But See Below...
DSH
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Hmmmmmm...
I've always preferred women.
But for those with "size problems" I can understand why you might prefer
mosquitoes.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Of course I have additional resources as a backup.
But I've never had to call on them
'Nuff Said.
But See Below...
DSH
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Hmmmmmm...
I've always preferred women.
But for those with "size problems" I can understand why you might prefer
mosquitoes.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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ANONYMOUS
I use just one - MS antispyware Beta1.
For anti-virus I use Nortons/Symantec.
You simply don't need anything else except a firm handle over your brain
to control the urge to visit those sites that I won't visit! I know UK
is going the wrong way to legalize brothels but it should instead make
it easier (tax wise) to live in sin!
Oh make sure SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled and no exceptions!
hth
For anti-virus I use Nortons/Symantec.
You simply don't need anything else except a firm handle over your brain
to control the urge to visit those sites that I won't visit! I know UK
is going the wrong way to legalize brothels but it should instead make
it easier (tax wise) to live in sin!
Oh make sure SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled and no exceptions!
hth
D. Spencer Hines said:
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ANONYMOUS
No don't ask her to do that. That will only hasten her death! Too many
eggs can be dangerous!
eggs can be dangerous!
D. Spencer Hines said:
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D. Spencer Hines
SMART!!!
DSH
DSH
ANONYMOUS said:
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Shenan Stanley
D. Spencer Hines said:
^^
How it must feel to be a troll out of water..
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Frank
The answer is not BS a hosts file _will_ slow a system.
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Jonny
Maybe.
I would ask would two or more self updating pay for antispyware programs be
adequate. Many AVs have spyware sniffers built-in, does this count? Some
have ZA Pro with its own antispyware, would this count as one? If not, why?
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Jonny
I would ask would two or more self updating pay for antispyware programs be
adequate. Many AVs have spyware sniffers built-in, does this count? Some
have ZA Pro with its own antispyware, would this count as one? If not, why?
.............
Jonny
D. Spencer Hines said: