Arachnophilia theft

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Paul Lutus

Hello newsgroup! Some of you may know me as the author of Arachnophilia and
other free programs available at http://www.arachnoid.com.

Today I discovered someone was so deeply offended by my giving away my
programs for free, that he has been selling one of them for over a year,
at:

http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/product_info.php?
manufacturers_id=15&products_id=144

(put this URL on one line to visit the site)

Is this really a listing of my free program Arachnophilia? Yes.

Is this Web site making people pay for it? Also yes.

Did the page designer misspell the name of my program to make it harder for
me to find it? Yes, I think so.

Did that work? Only for a while.

Is all this illegal? Absolutely.

Someone is bound to ask, "if Arachnophilia is free, how can it be called
'theft'?" Well, if someone tries to sell a free program, that's definitely
theft.

The appropriate legal authorities have been alerted. Stay tuned.
 
Hello newsgroup! Some of you may know me as the author of
Arachnophilia and other free programs available at
http://www.arachnoid.com.

Today I discovered someone was so deeply offended by my giving away my
programs for free, that he has been selling one of them for over a
year, at:

http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/product_info.php?
manufacturers_id=15&products_id=144

(put this URL on one line to visit the site)

Is this really a listing of my free program Arachnophilia? Yes.

Is this Web site making people pay for it? Also yes.

Did the page designer misspell the name of my program to make it
harder for me to find it? Yes, I think so.

Did that work? Only for a while.

Is all this illegal? Absolutely.

Someone is bound to ask, "if Arachnophilia is free, how can it be
called 'theft'?" Well, if someone tries to sell a free program, that's
definitely theft.

The appropriate legal authorities have been alerted. Stay tuned.
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was webthing also yours ? and didn't it run on win3x ?
 
Today I discovered someone was so deeply offended by my giving away my
programs for free, that he has been selling one of them for over a year,
at:

http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/product_info.php?
manufacturers_id=15&products_id=144
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Hi Paul,
I doubt they are offended...more likely simply a thief hoping to gain from
others. I see that it is a go daddy domain and the registrant is from a
town where I have a brother living and only a couple hours from me. It's a
small world indeed.

Good luck with your pursuit. It's a sad affair when people steal from
others. I have no tolerance for thieves.
 
burnr said:
@corp.supernews.com:
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I see that it is a go daddy domain and the registrant is from a
town where I have a brother living and only a couple hours from me. It's a
small world indeed.
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http://the-info-resource.com/ has "Independent Booksellers by
www.Chrislands.com" at the bottom of the page. Is it possible to tell if
they are being hosted by Chrislands?

http://www.chrislands.com/shops/faq.php

# Q10: Are there any restrictions on what I can sell?
A: You cannot use this service to engage in the selling and/or
distribution of specific types of goods/services, such as:

# Products and services that infringe on copyrighted property of others

also. . .

I know many booksellers who have Chrisland sites. I'm sure they would
not be happy to hear they're in bad company *if* indeed that is the case.

Susan
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http://the-info-resource.com/ has "Independent Booksellers by
www.Chrislands.com" at the bottom of the page. Is it possible to tell if
they are being hosted by Chrislands?
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humm, It looks like from a "whois" that the domain name is registered
through Go Daddy. I don't know if that means for sure that GoDaddy also
hosts the domain. But I don't see any other info about being hosted by
someone else.

The banner at the bottom of the front page you're referring to looks to be
a plain old web ring banner. Likely the domain owner has an account with
Chrislands as they are selling books, but I'm not sure if Chrislands
actually hosts the domain. I don't know the ins and outs of a whois query.
If I were Paul, I would contact GoDaddy and the registrant and my lawyer.
(which he probably has)
 
Hello newsgroup! Some of you may know me as the author of
Arachnophilia and other free programs available at
http://www.arachnoid.com.

Today I discovered someone was so deeply offended by my
giving away my programs for free, that he has been selling
one of them for over a year, at:

http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/product_info.php?
manufacturers_id=15&products_id=144

(put this URL on one line to visit the site)

Is this really a listing of my free program Arachnophilia?
Yes.

Is this Web site making people pay for it? Also yes.

Did the page designer misspell the name of my program to
make it harder for me to find it? Yes, I think so.

Did that work? Only for a while.

Is all this illegal? Absolutely.

Someone is bound to ask, "if Arachnophilia is free, how can
it be called 'theft'?" Well, if someone tries to sell a
free program, that's definitely theft.

The appropriate legal authorities have been alerted. Stay
tuned.
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Paul,

Try contact (complain to) godaddy.com. They've reacted when a
domain registered through them has violated the TOS.

J
 
Hello newsgroup! Some of you may know me as the author of Arachnophilia
and other free programs available at http://www.arachnoid.com.

Today I discovered someone was so deeply offended by my giving away my
programs for free, that he has been selling one of them for over a year,
at:

http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/product_info.php?
manufacturers_id=15&products_id=144

(put this URL on one line to visit the site)

Is this really a listing of my free program Arachnophilia? Yes.

Is this Web site making people pay for it? Also yes.

Did the page designer misspell the name of my program to make it harder
for me to find it? Yes, I think so.

Did that work? Only for a while.

Is all this illegal? Absolutely.

Someone is bound to ask, "if Arachnophilia is free, how can it be called
'theft'?" Well, if someone tries to sell a free program, that's definitely
theft.
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Then it isn't free. You say there are restrictions w/o saying what they
are.
The appropriate legal authorities have been alerted. Stay tuned.
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You lose.
 
Then it isn't free. You say there are restrictions w/o saying what
they are.
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He retains his copyright. Restrictions on stealing copyrighted works
are clear, and they are in place unless he explicitly waives them.
 
On Tue 12 Apr 2005 20:19:49, Paul Lutus wrote:
Hello newsgroup! Some of you may know me as the author of
Arachnophilia and other free programs available at
http://www.arachnoid.com.
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Paul, I hope you can pursue and win this matter. There must be a
trail via the credit cards to the bank account of the fraudster.
Maybe ask around of those who paid for the program as they should
know who their credit card was paid to.

BTW my machine runs java only with difficulty as the PC does not have
the power.

Do you still make available the last non-Java version of
Arachnophilia?
 
»Q« said:
Already a "product not found" notice shows up where that was. :)
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http://the-info-resource.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=36

The product thumbnails have disappeared from the page (they were there
yesterday) - makes me wonder if all the apps are being sold without
their authors knowledge. More accurately - I wondered that yesterday -
the change strengthens my suspicions. . .
They're not; they just joined the Chrislands.com webring, which includes
a lot of sites not otherwise associated with Chrislands
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Thanks for that info.

Susan
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On that special day, dszady, ([email protected]) said...
Then it isn't free. You say there are restrictions w/o saying what they
are.
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Do you think it is alright, if a charity gives goods for free, like
food or clothings, and some guy drops in regularly and fetches some,
and then sells them at the next corner?

This would show the same state of mind, as the guy did, who sold Paul's
work.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
Gabriele Neukam said:
On that special day, dszady, ([email protected]) said...


Do you think it is alright, if a charity gives goods for free, like
food or clothings, and some guy drops in regularly and fetches some,
and then sells them at the next corner?

This would show the same state of mind, as the guy did, who sold Paul's
work.
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There is no copyright on second hand clothing
 
dszady wrote:

/ ...
Then it isn't free.
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On the contrary, it is only free, rocket scientist. Copyright law works that
way. The only way to prevent people selling free things is to assert
ownership, then state conditions for distribution, as I have done.

Most free things are someone's property, and cannot be sold without
consequences.

I've been having this battle for years, and I see from your post the average
IQ continues to drop.
You say there are restrictions w/o saying what they
are.
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The restrictions of copyright law. And, since everything is automatically
copyrighted by the act of publication, you should have known that.
You lose.
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Try again.
 
fred said:
There is no copyright on second hand clothing
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You entirely missed the point. It is about a proprietary interest in
something that is being offered for free. A free distribution doesn't grant
a free right of distribution.
 
Susan said:
The product thumbnails have disappeared from the page (they were there
yesterday) - makes me wonder if all the apps are being sold without
their authors knowledge. More accurately - I wondered that yesterday -
the change strengthens my suspicions. . .
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The owner of the site wrote me, claiming he ordered an employee to move all
the applications on his hard drive onto his Web site and list them all. It
is fair to assume that each such application had a price attached, and that
the owner didn't own any of them.
 
dszady wrote:

/ ...


On the contrary, it is only free, rocket scientist. Copyright law works
that way. The only way to prevent people selling free things is to assert
ownership, then state conditions for distribution, as I have done.

Most free things are someone's property, and cannot be sold without
consequences.

I've been having this battle for years, and I see from your post the
average IQ continues to drop.


The restrictions of copyright law. And, since everything is automatically
copyrighted by the act of publication, you should have known that.


Try again.
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You still lose. Sorry. And I'm not the rocket scientist that you are.
Don't f*cking call me names Java Man.
You lost. Suck it up.
 
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