AOL axes Nullsoft - whither Winamp, Shoutcast?

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Gordon Darling

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/11/aol_axes_nullsoft/

http://www.betanews.com/article/Death_Knell_Sounds_for_Nullsoft_Winamp/1100111204

Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp By Nate Mook, BetaNews November
10, 2004, 1:26 PM

The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL and
the door has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.

Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital audio
player with minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are
expected.

Winamp's abandonment comes as no surprise to those close to the company
who say the software has been on life support since the resignation of
Nullsoft founder and Winamp creator Justin Frankel last January.

The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After AOL
acquired the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team
of Winamp developers was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that
begged for rebellion. Although Nullsoft was initially given a long leash
by AOL, It wasn't long until the two ideologies collided.

Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel
and fellow Nullsoft developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized
peer-to-peer file sharing system, dubbed Gnutella, parent AOL was left in
the dark.

Gnutella was unveiled in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared
AOL; executives feared the program would encourage copyright infringement
and damage the company's pending merger with Time Warner. AOL quickly
clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the software's source code
leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting a peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.

But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from the
freely available Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water
numerous times, but always escaped with little more than a proverbial slap
on the wrist.

& more ............

Regards
Gordon
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/11/aol_axes_nullsoft/

http://www.betanews.com/article/Death_Knell_Sounds_for_Nullsoft_Winamp/1100111204

Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp By Nate Mook, BetaNews November
10, 2004, 1:26 PM

The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL and
the door has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.

Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital audio
player with minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are
expected.

Winamp's abandonment comes as no surprise to those close to the company
who say the software has been on life support since the resignation of
Nullsoft founder and Winamp creator Justin Frankel last January.

The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After AOL
acquired the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team
of Winamp developers was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that
begged for rebellion. Although Nullsoft was initially given a long leash
by AOL, It wasn't long until the two ideologies collided.

Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel
and fellow Nullsoft developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized
peer-to-peer file sharing system, dubbed Gnutella, parent AOL was left in
the dark.

Gnutella was unveiled in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared
AOL; executives feared the program would encourage copyright infringement
and damage the company's pending merger with Time Warner. AOL quickly
clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the software's source code
leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting a peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.

But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from the
freely available Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water
numerous times, but always escaped with little more than a proverbial slap
on the wrist.

& more ............

Regards
Gordon

Yep, so much for Winamp. Too bad, it is a well know and very popular
player. AOL did it again.

Wayne D
 
Gordon Darling > /dev/null :

I think everybody will/should slowly move to foobar2000 (the best MP3 player,
IMHO).

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Well, AOHell has done it again! They scarfed up Netscape, then ICQ,
now WinAmp and who knows what others, and they are all slowly dying
out. And some of you guys are sweating Billy Gates' empire?? I don't
think Micro$oft has got a thing on AOL.
 
Well, AOHell has done it again! They scarfed up Netscape, then ICQ,
now WinAmp and who knows what others, and they are all slowly dying
out. And some of you guys are sweating Billy Gates' empire?? I don't
think Micro$oft has got a thing on AOL.

Then I guess it begs the question: is there a suitable freeware
replacement that is compatible with WA and can run streaming internet
audio like it does?
 
seabat said:
Well, AOHell has done it again! They scarfed up Netscape, then ICQ,
now WinAmp and who knows what others, and they are all slowly dying
out. And some of you guys are sweating Billy Gates' empire?? I don't
think Micro$oft has got a thing on AOL.

they both suck
 
Way easier!! You light the damn candle and burn your fingers doing it.
Then you have that smelly burning pyre on your table. Then you knock
it over and get hot wax over everything! Have you tried to clean that
crap out of dog hair??? Not to mention the fact that the dog is pissed
off and snaps at you everytime you try to get close. And then there's
the little matter of the fire that ensues and all that smokey, dirty
mess. And that brings us to the nasty looks and stares than your
neighbors and friends bestow upon you for burning down their houses,
not to mention the accusing stares from the fire department folks!

Nawwwww, give me cursing every time!! :)
 
Way easier!! You light the damn candle and burn your fingers doing it.
Then you have that smelly burning pyre on your table. Then you knock
it over and get hot wax over everything! Have you tried to clean that
crap out of dog hair??? Not to mention the fact that the dog is pissed
off and snaps at you everytime you try to get close. And then there's
the little matter of the fire that ensues and all that smokey, dirty
mess. And that brings us to the nasty looks and stares than your
neighbors and friends bestow upon you for burning down their houses,
not to mention the accusing stares from the fire department folks!

Nawwwww, give me cursing every time!! :)

Amen!
 
Chaos said:
Gordon Darling > /dev/null :


I think everybody will/should slowly move to foobar2000 (the best MP3 player,
IMHO).

[]s
Does it play flac,rm, shn, and mp4? Winamp is the only program I know
of so far that has plug ins for most formats. QCD comes close but
doesn't have shn.
 
dansheen scribebat:
Does it play flac,rm, shn, and mp4?

The "extended version" (or however that is called, the one is all the
plug-ins included) plays VERY many audio files. I am sure for flac and mp4,
the others I never tested. But there is a list somewhere on their homepage.
 
dansheen schreef:
Does it play flac,rm, shn, and mp4? Winamp is the only program I know
of so far that has plug ins for most formats. QCD comes close but
doesn't have shn.

* Audio formats supported "out-of-the-box": WAV, AIFF, VOC, AU, SND, Ogg
Vorbis, MPC, MP2, MP3, MPEG-4 AAC
* Audio formats supported through official addons: FLAC, OggFLAC, Monkey's
Audio, WavPack, Speex, CDDA, TFMX, SPC, various MOD types


Shorten support:
<http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uybc/#foo_shn>

I don't know about RealMedia.
 
dansheen said:
Chaos said:
Gordon Darling > /dev/null :
http://www.betanews.com/article/Death_Knell_Sounds_for_Nullsoft_Winamp /1100111204
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp By Nate Mook, BetaNews November
10, 2004, 1:26 PM


I think everybody will/should slowly move to foobar2000 (the best MP3 player,
IMHO).

[]s
Does it play flac,rm, shn, and mp4? Winamp is the only program I know
of so far that has plug ins for most formats. QCD comes close but
doesn't have shn.

dbpoweramp does.
 
Then I guess it begs the question: is there a suitable freeware
replacement that is compatible with WA and can run streaming internet
audio like it does?

Why do you assume you have to replace Winamp because development has
stopped? It works well and will continue to for years to come. I use 2.95,
which is several years old. I can also assure you that people will continue
to write plugins for it as new types of media come out.
 
elaich said:
Why do you assume you have to replace Winamp because development has
stopped? It works well and will continue to for years to come. I use 2.95,
which is several years old. I can also assure you that people will continue
to write plugins for it as new types of media come out.

I agree. Winamp works, and will likely continue to work (until MS throws us
a curve with their next OS).

To the OP ... it does not beg the question. Begging the question refers to a
thesis or argument in which circular reasoning is used. The conclusion is
not proven ... rather, the conclusion is used to prove itself. That's
"begging the question".
 
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