Any problem adding old IDE drive to EIDE controller?

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Trent© said:
Remember...you said that...I didn't. And I see a lot of
inconsistencies in your testing.
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As I said, if I'd had time I would have done several runs and averaged the
results.
People give opinionated advice here all the time. Most folks that
give advice have not really TRIED that advice. They've read it
somewhere...and simply passed it on. Some of it is correct...some
isn't.

I refrain from calling anyone an 'idiot'...although I did actually do
that...to a spammer who was bad-mouthing Office Max. For example, I
don't consider you an idiot...but there's a LOT of holes in the
testing procedure you outlined (cluster sizes, cache, etc.) Someone
will now pick up those results as gospel...and simply pass them on.

I believe in being cordial to most folks. Life is too short to be
rude...usually! lol
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Usually being the operative word, However, I have some across this hoary old
chestnt being spouted as gospel and contended it, only to be told that I'n
wrong, just a few times too many. By the same people.
 
~misfit~ said:
Ok, this will take a while, I ran some tests and wrote out the results by
hand, I don't know how it will come out format-wise, maybe use fixed text
setting. I fitted a Quantum LPS170A 170MB HDD (couldn't find the 212MB I
mentioned earlier) as a slave to my 80GB Seagate and ran ATTO Disk
Benchmark, at default settings. Transfer size was 0.5Kb through to 1024Kb,
total length (whatever that means) was 4Mb. The old Quantum would run at
Multi-Word DMA mode 1 but I limited it to PIO as that is what we were
discussing.
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What say you Stacey?
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I -said- a non-DMA drive which you didn't use in your test..
 
Stacey said:
I -said- a non-DMA drive which you didn't use in your test..
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You said a "400MB vintage PIO drive". I used an even older drive, and set
it, both in BIOS and OS, to use PIO access only. Therefore it was in fact a
non-DMA drive. Or at least it was behaving as one. Your argument is
baseless.

I have an old Conner 80MB drive here, want me to repeat the experiment? It
will run DMA mode 1 as well though. So far, with this mobo, I've found that
every drive I've hooked up to it is capable of using at least DMA mode 1, I
think you'll find the PIO limitation you are so infatuated with is a
motherboard/bus limitation, not a just a drive one. I have tested drives of
80MB, 120, 170, 212, 300, 420, 540 from diverse manufacturers and *all* are
capable of DMA mode 1 on the right board.

And anyway, the people you've been advising not to hook up older drives
aren't talking about tiny little dinosaurs like these.

I wondered if you'd have the balls to reply (I see it took you a while), and
what excuse you'd come up with to back up your uninformed statements.

Does spreading FUD make you feel like you have something useful to say?

I have been discussing your ludicrous statements (and the results of my
test) with some knowledgeable people in another group, people who have been
building and maintaining machines for a living since pre-286 days and they
told me people like you would never change their mind-set or admit to being
wrong. LOL, one of them even predicted that you'd come back with that exact
(flawed) statement.
 
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