Any opinions from Linux users?

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Just curious what y'all think of Vista, compared to other versions of Windows.

Mention your distro if/when you share your opinion, yes?
 
Just curious what y'all think of Vista, compared to other versions of
Windows.

Mention your distro if/when you share your opinion, yes?
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I am running Ubuntu 6.10 on a trial basis -- i.e., to determine if it is a
solid enough platform so I can get rid of Windows altogether. So far, it
looks promising. It is efficient and stable, with the polished look of
commercial software. It's possible to skin it out with something called
"Beryl" to get glitzy effects, but the default desktop looks and functions
just fine.

From what I have seen of and heard about Vista, I don't think I will ever
want to use it or anything like it. Vista would give Microsoft too much
control over my computer and the information stored on it. I have no
reason to think MS (or any large, impersonal corporation) would use that
control with discretion or consideration of my best interests.

Charlie
 
I don't feel like Microsoft has any control of my computer at all. I
understand the EULA and follow it, simple enough. I'm not even sure what you
mean by MS control over the information stored on your computer. Any control
they have they would use with discretion because they also deal with
governments and businesses.

So, do you mean UAC, WGA, or something that you believe is 'hidden'? WGA is
simple enough, follow the EULA. Besides, I have nothing to hide. If you
mean something 'else', well, it is probably not there. DRM? Again, follow
the rules and you will be fine. It really isn't as difficult as some like to
make it seem. It gets them attention.

I won't get into Linux because I think it is pretty irrelevant right now. I
was forced to use Linux while doing research at LSU this past summer. It was
nice, but certainly not bug free and easy to use.

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Well, you are sitting in front of a 6 Billion dollar machine at $399. It is
a pretty expensive machine.
 
now is forever spake thusly on 1/22/2007 5:59 PM:
Just curious what y'all think of Vista, compared to other versions of Windows.

Mention your distro if/when you share your opinion, yes?
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I'm not your typical Linux user. I love Linux, but I don't hate
Windows. I don't like some of Microsoft's business practices (past and
present) but I like Windows and honestly I *love* Vista and I've got it
pre-ordered from Amazon.com

With that said, I currently dual-boot with Ubuntu Linux and I love it
too. I see no reason to stick with just one OS. In fact I'll probably
be adding FreeBSD to the mix here pretty soon.

I've run several Linus distros in the past, including Mandrake (now
Mandriva), SUSE, RedHat, Fedora Core, Debian and now Ubuntu.
And I've been a Windows user since the 3.1 days and have run 3.1, 95,
98SE, 2000 and XP. Stability wise, I've been very happy with Windows
since 2000 (the first "next generation" NT-based Windows). Unlike some
people (I'd love to know what software they run) I almost *never* get a
BSOD (Win 9X was another story). In the past 6 years I've found both
Linux and Windows equally (un)stable.
 
And all I got was this t-shirt.......

Mario Rosario (info) said:
Well, you are sitting in front of a 6 Billion dollar machine at $399. It
is a pretty expensive machine.
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So, do you mean UAC, WGA, or something that you believe is 'hidden'? WGA is
simple enough, follow the EULA. Besides, I have nothing to hide.
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I'm going by what I have read in this group and in the mainstream media.
Apparently MS has the ability to reduce the functionality of the OS if the
user doesn't jump through the proper set of hoops. That implies the
ability to examine a user's system. I don't know what eavesdropping
capabilities are built into Vista, but they might be extensive, and I don't
trust any big corporation to tell the truth if it is not in their interest
to do so.

Charlie
 
Mario,

Excellent analogy and too accurate!
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Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

Ambrose Bierce
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Charlie said:
I am running Ubuntu 6.10 on a trial basis -- i.e., to determine if it
is a solid enough platform so I can get rid of Windows altogether.
So far, it looks promising. It is efficient and stable, with the
polished look of commercial software. It's possible to skin it out
with something called "Beryl" to get glitzy effects, but the default
desktop looks and functions just fine.
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Have a look at PCLinuxOS... it's a KDE based o/s but, after using
Ubuntu/Kubuntu for a while I'm enjoying using it, especially hooking
stuff from my Windows hard-drives. Many of your favourite apps will run
under WINE, sadly not XanaNews (yet!).

http://pclinuxos.com/news.php
From what I have seen of and heard about Vista, I don't think I will
ever want to use it or anything like it. Vista would give Microsoft
too much control over my computer and the information stored on it.
I have no reason to think MS (or any large, impersonal corporation)
would use that control with discretion or consideration of my best
interests.
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The black helicopters are always there... ;-)
 
Charlie said:
I'm going by what I have read in this group and in the mainstream media.
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Ah...bullshit based on BETAs.
Apparently MS has the ability to reduce the functionality of the OS if the
user doesn't jump through the proper set of hoops.
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The hoops being "Activating Windows". Wow, how hard.

That implies the
ability to examine a user's system. I don't know what eavesdropping
capabilities are built into Vista, but they might be extensive, and I don't
trust any big corporation to tell the truth if it is not in their interest
to do so.
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How do you know what back doors are built into your beloved Ubuntu?
 
I have XpMCE2005, VistaRC25744, and Ubuntu ver6.10 running in a triple boot
cfg

And I'm happy with all three

As for Ubuntu Just the standard installetion is pretty much What one would
Expect from a linux distro
However since my last experiences with linux Ubuntu has come a long way

I've been very busy personalizing Ubuntu
So far I've managed to get my MCE remote working in ubuntu
I've also managed to install Mythtv to watch digital tv and it's easily as
good as microsofts media center
I've also managed to get my Hp Ipag 6515 (pocket-pc) to sync with ubuntu
both via bluetooth and usb
I've installed Wine which emulates a windows environment, and so far through
Wine, I have internet explorer, msn messenger, and DreamweaverMX running on
Ubuntu
and I also have Beryl running on Ubuntu.

I've only been using Ubuntu for 3 months and after spending some time
learning how to set it up the way I need it to run, I'm very happy with it,

But I guess it all comes down to what the user wants out of their OS, My
work involves a lot of complex tasks and I couldn't go without windows and
I'll definately Buy Vista however I will from now on continue to use Ubuntu
in a dual boot cfg.

I think the main thing people should keep in mind is that buying an OS from
microsoft means you buy something that works straight out of the box (well
at least one would hope so)

And installing a linux distro requires advanced knowledge of both hardware
and software, but having said that, it's free and you can change and/ or
modify it in any way you wish and if your willing to put in the hard work
you can make it just as functional as windows
 
Just curious what y'all think of Vista, compared to other versions of
Windows.

Mention your distro if/when you share your opinion, yes?
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Fedora Core 5&6.

Vista bites arse for those who prefer to think for themselves (chocked
full of buggy DRM). Hate the new look (I consider eye candy features
bloat), thank good ness that I can revert to classic look for the most
part. I also hate the fact they changed everything and moved it around.
True to just about every new flavor of windows I've tried when it came
out, they changed the way you access everything so you need to click
through several more windows just to change a few basic configuration
settings. And Office 2007 is even worse in that aspect (same with IE7)!
I do hope that the security is better, otherwise there really is not
much better at all about Vista.


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Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
Ah...bullshit based on BETAs.


The hoops being "Activating Windows". Wow, how hard.


How do you know what back doors are built into your beloved Ubuntu?
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I don't know. But people are free to examine the source code, right? I
tend to think someone would identify and publish back doors that allow
Canonical (or whoever) to spy on users.

With Windows, it's a matter of blind faith in the Microsoft Corporation. I
don't have that faith.

I'm not loyal to Ubuntu, BTW. I've been using it for about a week and a
half. I have always been a Microsoft customer, since the days of DOS and
Win3x. Vista is causing me to reconsider the Microsoft value proposition.

Charlie
 
Charlie said:
I don't know. But people are free to examine the source code, right? I
tend to think someone would identify and publish back doors that allow
Canonical (or whoever) to spy on users.
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If that was the case, no vulnerabilities would exist in open source
software.
With Windows, it's a matter of blind faith in the Microsoft Corporation. I
don't have that faith.
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I do. Open Source project leaders have no faith in the open source
project way of doing things anymore.
I'm not loyal to Ubuntu, BTW. I've been using it for about a week and a
half. I have always been a Microsoft customer, since the days of DOS and
Win3x. Vista is causing me to reconsider the Microsoft value proposition.
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XP is more than adequate.
 
They needn't be. http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
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You smart-asses should spend a summer in the San Juan Islands, and you can
see the black helicopters for yourself. They are actually dark gray, and
they are sent out by the U.S. Federal Gov't to see what people are growing
in their yards. They fly over my house every goddamn summer.

I read in the news that one of Yahoo's Chinese users ended up in prison
because Yahoo released his private information to the Chinese gov't. Is
that black helicopters? And how about HP, spying on its own goddamn Board
of Directors... black helicopters?

These big technology companies do not care about the welfare/privacy
of their customers, or about anything except their own narrowly defined
interests. They will do what they think they can get by with,
whether or not it is against the law. Microsoft in particular has gained a
reputation for ruthless arrogance in its dealings with just about everyone.

Charlie
 
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