ANY GOOD FREE REG CLEANERS FOR VISTA?

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Mark said:
CCleaner works fine, .....
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On the contrary, CCleaner is virtually useless as a registry tool.
In my testing, though, most of the reported "issues" won't be issues,
at all. I tried the latest version on a brand-new OS installation with
no additional applications installed, and certainly none installed and
then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
"suspicious" files.

CCleaner's main strength, and the only reason I use it at all, lies
in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse
than any other snake oil product of the same type.


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The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.
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Ken, would you (or anyone else knowledgeable) recommend merging backup
library's if you have been using registry cleaners? Ceasing the use of a
utility is one thing, but are there any downsides to undoing anything
that has been changed? I have no major problems with my Vista system,
but there are just a couple of really minor problems and I wonder if
these minor problems could have been caused by eliminating DLL's? Your
thoughts please.
 
CCleaner works fine, as does Registry Mechanic. I've used both with no
problems at all.
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If you name almost any registry cleaner on the market, you can find
many people who have used it "with no problems at all." None of us
claims that catastrophes result every time someone uses a registry
cleaner. Often people get away with using them without having a
problem. However the salient points are these:

1. There is always a *risk* of its causing a problem, and sometimes
the problem can be very serious indeed. Worst case, the result can be
an unbootable computer.

2. The registry doesn't need to be cleaned. The benefit of doing so is
close enough to zero that it can be ignored.

Given those two points, using any registry cleaner is foolhardy. You
expose your self to substantial risk, but achieve no compensatory
benefit. It's a very poor bargain.
 
If you name almost any registry cleaner on the market, you can find
many people who have used it "with no problems at all." None of us
claims that catastrophes result every time someone uses a registry
cleaner. Often people get away with using them without having a
problem. However the salient points are these:

1. There is always a *risk* of its causing a problem, and sometimes
the problem can be very serious indeed. Worst case, the result can be
an unbootable computer.
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Yep, that's the fundamental problem that Microsoft brought about when it
decided to store configuration settings in a "registry", like it has. A
corrupt registry can leave the computer unbootable. That is plain
silliness. And more than "registry cleaners" can bring about this
ridiculous situation.
2. The registry doesn't need to be cleaned. The benefit of doing so is
close enough to zero that it can be ignored.
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We all know that a Windoze registry will continue to grow and grow and grow.
Much like that "growing problem" a pharmaceutical company keeps advertising
about. This eventually results in a broken system that requires a complete
wipe and reinstall. Better known as Windoze bitrot.
Given those two points, using any registry cleaner is foolhardy. You
expose your self to substantial risk, but achieve no compensatory
benefit. It's a very poor bargain.
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As is Microsoft's decision to use a "registry" in the first place.

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Para 2 is the most relevant. I would not say (para3) that there is a
"substantial risk"
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Since you quoted nothing, I can't tell to whom you are responding or
what the paragraphs to which you are referring say.

Most reg cleaners offer a backup option before proceeding.
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Yes, and making such a backup does reduce the risk. However it does
not eliminate it. If the result of the registry cleaner is an
unbootable computer (and that *does* sometimes happen), the backup
doesn't help you.
 
"Sorry. I do not follow the trend of reproducing..."
It is not always necessary to quote the entire message.
But since you choose not to quote relevant sections of the post you
are responding, it is difficult to know what you are talking about.
At least this one can be guessed since you said Kens name, but even
then it is just a guess.

"It is pretty obvious, if you care to read..."
Another place where an appropriate quote would have helped.
It is not obvious since you did not quote anything.
 
For Ken Blake (MVP)
Sorry. I do not follow the trend of reproducing entire previous posts.
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Nobody suggested that you should reproduce an entire thread. What's
necessary, if you want to be understood, is to quote enough of what
you are replying to put your post into context. However what you do is
entirely up to you.


Nor do I subscribe to the policy (Extremely prevalent on this site!) of
backbiting.
It is pretty obvious, if you care to read your own posting, to what I
am referring. There does not appear to be anything else in this thread
with numbered paras, or with the phrase "substantial risk"
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No, I don't care to read my own posting. My own messages, like all the
others I have already read, are no longer visible here. I read *many
newsgroup messages each day, and don't have the time to wade through
those I've already read. Nor I do remember all the details of those
I've already read, and not even those I've posted myself.

I see that you are posting here using one of the useless (and in my
view, disreputable) service that scarf up newsgroup posts and
reproduce them on their web site. So you may not even realize that you
are actually posting to a Microsoft newsgroup
 
I have to agree with the others on this one.
I do PC repairs, both warranty and non-warranty, and I have had to do more
reinstalls or repair installs because of Reg cleaners that any other single
cause.
Most viruses, spyware and even root kits can be removed with the proper
tools, but a bad registry isn't always recoverable.
To be honest, I do have CCleaner installed. I don't remember the last time I
actually used it.
But I like to be able to open it and look at the configuration/tools when I
am on the phone with someone who has messed up their system with it.
Unless you know how to properly edit the registry manually, you really
shouldn't be using a reg cleaner!
 
ccleaner is a good program. www.ccleaner.com




Marcos said:
Definitely stay away from PC Tools Registry Mechanic.
google: RM,Vista, disk cleaner, crashes


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