Antidote AV vanishes...?

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Kenneth

Howdy,

I have been experimenting with Antidote, but am perplexed by
something...

After running a scan, if I click EXIT, the program closes as
I would expect.

But, after that, there seems no indication that it ever
existed:

There are no shortcuts and it is not listed in Start |
Programs.

As a result, I can't see an appropriate way to launch it
again, other than re-installing the program.

Am I missing something here?

Sincere thanks,
 
Howdy,

I have been experimenting with Antidote, but am perplexed by
something...

After running a scan, if I click EXIT, the program closes as
I would expect.

But, after that, there seems no indication that it ever
existed:

There are no shortcuts and it is not listed in Start |
Programs.

As a result, I can't see an appropriate way to launch it
again, other than re-installing the program.

Am I missing something here?

Sincere thanks,
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I did the same thing-lol
Ihe exe creates a temp file for itself that is removed when you exit
the program. See the previous thread about antidote.
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I have been experimenting with Antidote, but am perplexed by
something...

After running a scan, if I click EXIT, the program closes as
I would expect.

But, after that, there seems no indication that it ever
existed:

There are no shortcuts and it is not listed in Start |
Programs.

As a result, I can't see an appropriate way to launch it
again, other than re-installing the program.

Am I missing something here?
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Antidote.exe is a self extracting zip which when run automatically
creates a temp folder. The actual executeable is named superlite.exe.
This file and others are copied to the temp folder and control is
transferred to superlite.exe which is the actual av program. When
you exit, the temp folder and all that was in it are deleted. There
is no "install" other than the temporary folder.

If you look at the thread I started on antidote (superlite) you'll see
how to create a permanent folder and get rid of antidote.exe. Then
the def files can be updated.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Antidote.exe is a self extracting zip which when run automatically
creates a temp folder. The actual executeable is named superlite.exe.
This file and others are copied to the temp folder and control is
transferred to superlite.exe which is the actual av program. When
you exit, the temp folder and all that was in it are deleted. There
is no "install" other than the temporary folder.

If you look at the thread I started on antidote (superlite) you'll see
how to create a permanent folder and get rid of antidote.exe. Then
the def files can be updated.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Hi Art,

I followed your instructions and now have the thing running
properly. I thank you for your help on this, but...

I ran a full scan on my main system (for about five hours I
might add <g>) and then stopped it. Antidote tells me at
that point that it has found 7 virus infected files. I
strongly doubt that because NAV and AVG each find nothing.
(I do not have an anti-virus fetish btw. I am just in the
process of evaluating a few products to replace NAV in our
office...) But leaving that aside for the moment, Antidote
tells me to look at the "report in the main dialog" for more
information.

The main dialog (or what I understand to be the main dialog)
lists all the files that have been examined, but at the
point that I pulled the plug, that list is about 18000.

How am I to find the supposed viruses in that list?

I cannot find anything that might be a summary report.

Thanks for any further help,
 
I followed your instructions and now have the thing running
properly. I thank you for your help on this, but...

I ran a full scan on my main system (for about five hours I
might add <g>) and then stopped it. Antidote tells me at
that point that it has found 7 virus infected files. I
strongly doubt that because NAV and AVG each find nothing.
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Why would you doubt it? KAV often finds malware other av
don't ... especially the two you mention.
(I do not have an anti-virus fetish btw. I am just in the
process of evaluating a few products to replace NAV in our
office...) But leaving that aside for the moment, Antidote
tells me to look at the "report in the main dialog" for more
information.

The main dialog (or what I understand to be the main dialog)
lists all the files that have been examined, but at the
point that I pulled the plug, that list is about 18000.
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That's odd. It does not list all files it scans. It only lists certain
"oddball" files ... archive: embedded HTML ... and stuff like like
that.

What are some examples of the list you see?

Anyway, you should very definitely take the malware report
seriously. I suggest since you're evaluating av products to get
your hands on a trial version of KAV and do a on-demand scan.
I have no idea why you're seeing a list of 18,000 files. Doesn't
make any sense.

BTW. I have used superlite on a collection of several thousand
malware samples, and it's detection seems normal. I haven't tested
very thoroughly, and seriously compared to other KAV versions
in detail. But I see nothing that suggests any major problems
with superlite. It doesn't false positive on my machines or do
anything weird.

What version of Windows are you using it on?

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Why would you doubt it? KAV often finds malware other av
don't ... especially the two you mention.


That's odd. It does not list all files it scans. It only lists certain
"oddball" files ... archive: embedded HTML ... and stuff like like
that.

What are some examples of the list you see?

Anyway, you should very definitely take the malware report
seriously. I suggest since you're evaluating av products to get
your hands on a trial version of KAV and do a on-demand scan.
I have no idea why you're seeing a list of 18,000 files. Doesn't
make any sense.

BTW. I have used superlite on a collection of several thousand
malware samples, and it's detection seems normal. I haven't tested
very thoroughly, and seriously compared to other KAV versions
in detail. But I see nothing that suggests any major problems
with superlite. It doesn't false positive on my machines or do
anything weird.

What version of Windows are you using it on?

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Hi again Art,

First, (and please forgive my ignorance) what is KAV? I
assume it is K antivirus, but need more info.

Next, I am running Win 2k Pro on all systems and have tried
Antidote on two. Both behave in the same way, that is they
produce huge lists of (what I took to be) all files
examined.

And finally, reviewing the list with some care, I see that
the "viruses" that it is finding were already found by NAV
and were quarantined. So, indeed, they were on the box.

Thanks again,
 
Hi again Art,

First, (and please forgive my ignorance) what is KAV? I
assume it is K antivirus, but need more info.
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Kaspersky AntiVirus.
Next, I am running Win 2k Pro on all systems and have tried
Antidote on two. Both behave in the same way, that is they
produce huge lists of (what I took to be) all files
examined.
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I have Win 2K Pro on one of my machines. All I see in the list
is a handfull of "oddball files", as I said. Very strange.
And finally, reviewing the list with some care, I see that
the "viruses" that it is finding were already found by NAV
and were quarantined. So, indeed, they were on the box.
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LOL! Well, that part makes sense then :)

If you're interested in evaluating KAV on Win 2K Pro, I suggest
downloading a trial of version 3.5 from the Swiss site:

http://www.avp.ch

Version 3.5 is really sweet.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Less bloat. Version 3.5 is my idea of what a av scanner should be.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Hi again Art,

Also, I have looked at the KAV site but can't seem to spot a
price for 3.5. They don't seem list it as an available
product (though I have seen it in the Swiss link you
offered.) As I am writing this, I realize that I may have
been looking at a U.S. structured site on the second
occasion.

And finally, I can't seem to spot for either product the
length of the license. So, suppose I purchase 3.5. For that
fee, how long will I be able to DL database updates?

Sincere thanks for all your great help,
 
Hi again Art,

Also, I have looked at the KAV site but can't seem to spot a
price for 3.5.
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If you look around the Russian site you'll find regional sales
offices. There's one now for the Northeastern U.S. where I'm
located, for example. Working through one of those may be your
best bet. They should have answers to all your questions.

But before you even go that far, I think you should take a look
at trial versions of several different scanners to find one that
suits you.

FYI, there are several products you might be interested in taking
a look at ... all along the same line since they use the KAV scan
engine. For example, F-Secure and AVK use multiple scan engines
including KAV.

Then there's ESCAN which uses the KAV engine:

http://www.mwti.net/antivirus/escan/escan_antivirus.asp

and costs $25 U.S. per single user per year (a pretty good price).

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Hi again Art,

Also, I have looked at the KAV site but can't seem to spot a
price for 3.5. They don't seem list it as an available
product (though I have seen it in the Swiss link you
offered.) As I am writing this, I realize that I may have
been looking at a U.S. structured site on the second
occasion.

And finally, I can't seem to spot for either product the
length of the license. So, suppose I purchase 3.5. For that
fee, how long will I be able to DL database updates?

Sincere thanks for all your great help,
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Hi Art,

I have come upon a hitch that I cannot seem to resolve:

I installed V3.5 and experimented with it for a while.

I then attempted to install V5 to have a looksee, but, it
tells me that I must first remove V3.

I uninstalled V3 (using the automated uninstall), rebooted,
and then attempted to install V5, but still no-go. Again it
tells me that I have V3 installed.

At that point I could not run the V3 uninstall again because
I could find no evidence of V3 on my system.

Soooooo, I reinstalled V3, and attempted to uninstall it
once again, but this time with the Custom uninstall. That
listed all the files. I selected everything that it
displayed, and removed 'em all.

I rebooted.

Then (don't get ahead of me here...<g>) it still will not
install V5.

Can you assist?

Sincere thanks as before,
 
Hi Art,

I have come upon a hitch that I cannot seem to resolve:

I installed V3.5 and experimented with it for a while.

I then attempted to install V5 to have a looksee, but, it
tells me that I must first remove V3.

I uninstalled V3 (using the automated uninstall), rebooted,
and then attempted to install V5, but still no-go. Again it
tells me that I have V3 installed.
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It's best to use methods that allow you to "go back" (restore to a
prior state) when you're doing this sort of thing. But that's whole
nuther subject. I'll just mention erunt as one app which allows you
to save and backup the registry beforehand so you can restore
it later.

You may be able to use a registry cleaner such as regseeker (google it
up) to find and delete old entries from the registry. First make sure
all KAV folders have been deleted. That way, regseeker should find
entries that are no longer valid. But be careful and selective on what
you allow it to delete.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
I've been using AVP/KAV v3.5.133 since it was released,
tried others, but always came back, it's the best.
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Hi Bart & Art,

Well, I keep finding new ways to be confused by all
this...<BG>:

I decided to buy a key for KAV V3.5 after messing with the
trial copy a bit.

The software tells me to go to www.avp.ch to make that
purchase.

When I go there, indeed, one of the purchase choices is "KAV
V3.5" but when I click to give 'em my money, I am linked to
the purchase of a product called "ESET NOD32 V2."

Can you help me to sort this out? Is the ESET product just
another name for the version that I have experimented with?

Thanks for any help,
 
I decided to buy a key for KAV V3.5 after messing with the
trial copy a bit.

The software tells me to go to www.avp.ch to make that
purchase.

When I go there, indeed, one of the purchase choices is "KAV
V3.5" but when I click to give 'em my money, I am linked to
the purchase of a product called "ESET NOD32 V2."

Can you help me to sort this out? Is the ESET product just
another name for the version that I have experimented with?
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No! NOD32 is a competing product!

Send a email to the Swiss distrubutor and get them to
sort it out.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
No! NOD32 is a competing product!

Send a email to the Swiss distrubutor and get them to
sort it out.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Hi Art,

I just spent a few minutes at their site with no luck. I
can't find an email address. The only way to contact them
seems to be through a form, and for that one needs a Digital
River proof of purchase.

So, I wish them luck!

Tired of hassling, I suspect that I will go with V5, bloated
though it may be.

All the best, and sincere thanks for all your help,
 
I see no problem with the site. You can order a key file through
Digital River for KAV Personal. The price they give is $41.50 U.S.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Hi Art,

I did not clearly describe what I meant when I said "no
luck."

When I went to the Swiss site to purchase a key file for V3
I was sent to the site of the competing product that I
mentioned earlier.

You wisely suggested that I let the Swiss site folks know. I
want back to the site, but could not find a way to
communicate with the Swiss distributor.

That was what I meant by "no luck."

But, on another channel:

You recall that when I now try to install KAV V5 I get the
error that I still have V3 installed. That, despite the fact
that I have un-installed it, and rebooted.

I attempted to clean my registry of dead keys, had a bunch
and deleted them, but still no luck on the installation of
V5.

This raises two questions:

Might you have any ideas about what I should be looking for
in the registry to manually clean it out?

And, I have very good backups.

To go back to a point prior to installing V3 I could just
restore a complete image, but I wondered if it would be
possible (and/or advisable) to merely go back to an earlier
registry.

If I were to try the latter, what is the file that I would
want to restore?

Thanks, as before,
 
The software tells me to go to www.avp.ch to make that
purchase.

When I go there, indeed, one of the purchase choices is "KAV
V3.5" but when I click to give 'em my money, I am linked to
the purchase of a product called "ESET NOD32 V2."
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If you went here:
http://tinyurl.com/e2l32
just scroll down to Kaspersky,
Digital River is a broker for both.
If you still have some unresolved issues,
You might try this site with your query:
http://www.avp.ch/E/srequest.stm
 
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