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Subject: Re: Antec vs Zalman Power Supply
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John said:
beerspill whoever.com wrote:
I had no trouble with "those" bad caps, whatever "those" is
referring to.
My last power supply was an Antec 350W SmartPower. I think it's
the 22 amp at 12 volt version which apparently was an update to
the original. It still works just fine. Before that, I had an
Antec 230 W supply. It still works just fine.
My current power supply is an Antec 380 TruePower. The whole
TruePower series is exceptionally well liked by hordes of users.
That's my experience/research.
Sorry, but it's not published elsewhere. See above?
You didn't list anything. 3 power supplies does not constitute
"experience," nor does merely using them equal "research."
and research, as it was left out of your message.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I missed the mainboard capacitor problem too.
You are making a straw man. You have to show that Antec is
using low-quality capacitors, not just that low-quality capacitors
exist
Anybody with experience knows that Fuhjyu capacitors are among the
worst, so bad that it's irresponsible to recommend a power supply
containing them..
That sounds fishy. Even assuming it's partly true, it makes no
difference anyway, the brand name is what matters.
It doesn't matter. It's no different than your boss telling you
to do something. Doesn't matter whether you work in the same
building or are owned by the same parent company your boss works for.
If you forgot what you wrote, scroll up. You were arguing that
there's something wrong with Antec not building its own power
supplies.
I've never done that. You're not comprehending the writing correctly.
I am trying to enlighten you to the fact that it doesn't
matter. The brand is what matters.
You have nothing to teach anyone, and brand doesn't matter -
manufacturer does.
I would ask for citations, but I know your reply would bounce off
of too many rails.
That's interesting but I don't see any citations.
The only thing you have provided so far is an opinion that there are
such things as bad capacitors and that bad components are bad.
That's easy to understand and I can accept it as true, but it's
hardly meaningful.
I base my words not only on my experience repairing hundreds of power
supplies and motherboards but also on the experiences of others who
know far more than I do.
$10 worth of Japanese caps will improve the reliability of
these Antecs, whether they're Smartpowers or Truepowers, more
than air conditioning and more frequent use of hibernate mode will.
Decreasing ambient/room temperature makes a big difference for
electronic components.
That's from experience.
If you don't know that ambient temperature has a magnified effect on
component temperature, then maybe you shouldn't be acting like a
technician.
That doesn't matter except at high temperatures, but these low-quality
capacitors are failing at high rates and very prematurely at just 50C
average, where they should easily last a decade.
Again, that's interesting but I don't see any citations.
The only relevant remarks would be about Antec using low-quality
capacitors. I find no reference to Antec on that moderated
discussion forum web page, as if it would matter.
Look harder, and read the opinions those technicians have of Fuhjyu
verses brands like Sanyo and Rubycon.
You lumped the new TruePowers into your bashing and I have a
feeling you are wrong at least about that. I haven't seen
anything except glowing reviews for the entire line of
TruePowers.
If you'd prefer to avoid spewing your argument all over the place,
here is your argument as I understand it.
This from the person who wandered aimlessly with the absurdity, "It's
no different than your boss telling you to do something. Doesn't
matter whether you work in the same building or are owned by the same
parent company your boss works for."
You are saying that Antec is using low-quality components.
Babbling about low-quality capacitors isn't enough. You need to
provide citations to backup your claim that Antec power supplies use
low-quality capacitors. Otherwise your opinions are easily dismissed
as phony/biased.
It's that simple IMO.
It's that simple-minded, IYO. Even the best electrolytic capacitors
are typically the least reliable non-mechanical components found in any
electronic device, and the lifespans of the best and worst capacitors
may differ by as much as 10:1. Even Dell Computer set aside hundreds
of millions of dollars to cover repair costs related to low-quality
Taiwan capacitors.
