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Good morning, at least here on the East coast of the US!
I cannot get the "95" etc to work this morning. It always starts up and then
says it encountered an error and needs to shut down. "Debug" and option does
apparently nothing because it does the same the next time.

I tried downloading it again and suddenly when extracting the files it wants
a password (which it never asked before and therefore is not set up)

I guess I am stuck for some reason at this point.

Do you think Removing the application and trying to download then might be
an option?
 
Ritter said:
Good morning, at least here on the East coast of the US!
I cannot get the "95" etc to work this morning. It always starts up and
then says it encountered an error and needs to shut down. "Debug" and
option does apparently nothing because it does the same the next time.

I tried downloading it again and suddenly when extracting the files it
wants a password (which it never asked before and therefore is not set up)

I guess I am stuck for some reason at this point.

Do you think Removing the application and trying to download then might
be an option?
Click to expand...

http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v255a.zip ?

926,532 bytes

Opens in pkzip without complaint (no password needed).
The need for a password implies something has changed inside the ZIP file.

MD5SUM (checksum of bytes in the ZIP) is 890d61afea21711bc8ca4a70119820c5

The file I just downloaded, has the same MD5SUM as the one I got in Dec 2007.

To reset the operation of the tool, find "local.txt" and "prime.txt".
They hold preferences for the application, such as the answer to
the "Join GIMPS" question. Deleting those two files should cause the
program to run like new.

Once you unzip the ZIP, the main executable is 4,534,272 bytes.

The "readme.txt", "license.txt", and "undoc.txt" files, are deposited in the
directory above where the Prime95 executable ended up.

*******
There is a lot of snow waiting for me outside, and I have hours and hours
of shovelling to do. No snowblower :-(

Paul
 
Paul, thanks again.
What is it I should do after I have opened "95" etc?I am not at all sure
what to do with the various things such as Test, Options etc.
What should I set?
Sorry, this "thing" is totally new to me, but I appreciate learning very
much.
I'll be going to PA. this PM and will probably not get back until about 8 or
9 PM.

Karl in MD.
 
Ritter said:
Paul, thanks again.
What is it I should do after I have opened "95" etc?I am not at all sure
what to do with the various things such as Test, Options etc.
What should I set?
Sorry, this "thing" is totally new to me, but I appreciate learning very
much.
I'll be going to PA. this PM and will probably not get back until about
8 or 9 PM.

Karl in MD.
Click to expand...

You double click the executable. The first question the program should
ask, is "Join GIMPS" or "Torture Test". You want the Torture Test
option. "Join GIMPS" is like the SETI program - your computer would be
used to compute Mersenne Primes, whenever the machine is idle. They
included the Torture Test, as a way of proving a client machine was
worthy of doing the calculations. (No point in trusting the machine
to compute or check prime numbers, if it corrupts the results.)

Next, a custom dialog should pop up, which allows the test options
to be modified. If you want the machine to remain a bit responsive,
you might reduce the size of memory to be tested.

The program does some math calculations. The programs knows what the
correct answer should be. If you overclock your processor, and there
is instability in either the CPU core or in the memory subsystem, the
errors caused will cause Prime95 to halt. If all the hardware
is running at conservative settings (the way the BIOS does it when
set to "Auto"), then Prime95 should run for hours without halting.

If you want to stop the test, the left-most menu has a stop option.
There is also an exit option, which is when you want the program
to quit and free up all the resources it was using.

Prime is a tool to help you detect stability or instability in
a machine you are overclocking. If Prime95 halts with an error, then
turn down your CPU a notch and try again.

Paul
 
Thanks, my good friend. Very helpful. Just got back from PA.

I am printing out all your suggestions and will follow them.
I shall post results here.
 
Here are my results so far, which are not what I expected:

I first power up 95*.
I then power the PPL etc.
I see the original settings which I gave in an earlier response.
I then moved the clock forward, as suggested, forward by 5Mhz or so and let
95* run for 10 minutes.
I do not encounter a problem and continue with above slowly, always running
after the advance the 95* for 10 or more minutes.
I finally say "apply etc settings" which were :
CPU 2545.38, FSB 231.40, RAM 282.82
I shut down and do a cold start, go back to PPL and lo and behold, the clock
setting are again the original, not the ones I selected, checked out with
96* and set to "apply"

So what am I doing wrong?????
 
Here are my results so far, which are not what I expected:

I first power up 95*.
I then power the PPL etc.
I see the original settings which I gave in an earlier response.
I then moved the clock forward, as suggested, forward by 5Mhz or so and let
95* run for 10 minutes.
I do not encounter a problem and continue with above slowly, always running
after the advance the 95* for 10 or more minutes.
I finally say "apply etc settings" which were :
CPU 2545.38, FSB 231.40, RAM 282.82
I shut down and do a cold start, go back to PPL and lo and behold, the clock
setting are again the original, not the ones I selected, checked out with
96* and set to "apply"

So what am I doing wrong?????
 
Ritter said:
Here are my results so far, which are not what I expected:

I first power up 95*.
I then power the PPL etc.
I see the original settings which I gave in an earlier response.
I then moved the clock forward, as suggested, forward by 5Mhz or so and
let 95* run for 10 minutes.
I do not encounter a problem and continue with above slowly, always
running after the advance the 95* for 10 or more minutes.
I finally say "apply etc settings" which were :
CPU 2545.38, FSB 231.40, RAM 282.82
I shut down and do a cold start, go back to PPL and lo and behold, the
clock setting are again the original, not the ones I selected, checked
out with 96* and set to "apply"

So what am I doing wrong?????
Click to expand...

Overclocking in Windows, stays in Windows. There are some motherboards,
where the software provided on the motherboard CD, does transfer the
settings to the BIOS level. But on your HP box, I don't expect they
would provide that, as the BIOS was pretty basic to begin with.

If you want the overclock applied all the time, check the documentation
for clockgen, and see if there is a service that can run at boot time,
to set it up every time. (The release notes say "Run at Windows startup"
feature, was added at release 1.0.4.7. The 1.0.5.3 release should have it.)

Alternately, you can just run the program, before you need the awesome
power of overclocking, and dial up the settings before starting Crysis
or whatever.

Paul
 
Thanks Paul. Yes I found that 1 little checkmark to apply these new settings
at windows startup.

Checking it did result in the settings that I had selected. You are just
great!

But when do you sleep? Are you not in the UK? I saw in another Newsgroup
here that you said you had a fan for so and so many English pounds.

I had not thought that I would hear from you when it is 10:20PM here and
2:20 in the morning in the UK. Just curious. Thanks again!!!
 
Ritter said:
Thanks Paul. Yes I found that 1 little checkmark to apply these new
settings at windows startup.

Checking it did result in the settings that I had selected. You are
just great!

But when do you sleep? Are you not in the UK? I saw in another Newsgroup
here that you said you had a fan for so and so many English pounds.

I had not thought that I would hear from you when it is 10:20PM here and
2:20 in the morning in the UK. Just curious. Thanks again!!!
Click to expand...

I'm in Canada, but I keep irregular hours.

Paul
 
Hi Guys:
It is a repeat from below:
I reset the clocks, select "reset selection", then "apply selections", yet
when I go back to view clocks it shows the original settings, not the
selected settings. I also made sure again that under Options the checkmark
is there to keep the newly selected option at Start up of windows.

Still confusing all, and most of all, since it shows the original clocks,
and they are active, since they constantly make upward or downward minor
moves, is *95 even checking the new selected settings of the clock???
 
Ritter said:
Hi Guys:
It is a repeat from below:
I reset the clocks, select "reset selection", then "apply selections",
yet when I go back to view clocks it shows the original settings, not
the selected settings. I also made sure again that under Options the
checkmark is there to keep the newly selected option at Start up of
windows.

Still confusing all, and most of all, since it shows the original
clocks, and they are active, since they constantly make upward or
downward minor moves, is *95 even checking the new selected settings of
the clock???
Click to expand...

Prime95 is a stability test program. It doesn't care about clocks.
It provides a 100% computing load, and uses all available cores.

Cool N' Quiet is a feature of the OS, that modifies the voltage
and frequency as a function of measured system load. Since Prime95
is running at the moment, Cool N' Quiet should keep the system at
its top setting.

If you can find a setting for Cool N' Quiet in the BIOS, you can
try disabling it. The system should run at full speed all the
time that way.

Clockgen is supposed to control the clock generator chip. In the
case of Nvidia chips, it adjusts something in the chipset itself,
to cause the clocks to increase according to the dial settings.

At least in the case of Clockgen here, I'm not seeing anything
interesting in the registry. I presume the option to apply settings
at startup, would store those settings in the registry.

You can download CPUZ, and look at the clock values that program
sees. The program has more current support, than Clockgen. The download
link is on the upper left of the web page.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

See how it behaves with Cool N' Quiet disabled.

A program like SuperPI can be used to benchmark the overclocked
system. If the time to compute PI to a million digits is reduced,
when the overclock is applied, that would be one way to prove
that overclocking has happened. To be able to run a benchmark
like this, you'd want to stop and exit Prime95. My 3.1GHz P4
calculates PI to one million digits in about 50 seconds.

http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/super_pi_mod-1.5.zip

Paul
 
I downloaded and installed both programs
As far as speed is concerned, they still show the initial settings, not the
changed (by me) settings.

BTW Hitting F1 does open up a number of things, but nothing thaa llows me to
change anything in the BIOS.

I think, that after all, I am still operating at the old speeds/clock
settings.
 
Ritter said:
I downloaded and installed both programs
As far as speed is concerned, they still show the initial settings, not
the changed (by me) settings.

BTW Hitting F1 does open up a number of things, but nothing thaa llows
me to change anything in the BIOS.

I think, that after all, I am still operating at the old speeds/clock
settings.
Click to expand...

That is possible. The question is, whether Clockgen supports
the 6150LE or not. I don't have any way to determine that.

Paul
 
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