AIDA project closes

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callsignviper said:
It's great when someone has the chance to make some money
from their
programming efforts but what is so d&mn difficult about
telling the truth???

Why not just say something like: "I got an offer that I
couldn't refuse"
rather than say what was said? Of course it is entirely
possible that AIDA
was a project intended to go commercial as soon as all the
major bugs were
squashed. ;-)) (Note: The Lavasys website seems to have
been created last
year (2003). Just some food for thought!)


Also, a thanks to all the FREE Beta testers of AIDA might
have been nice as
well!!!
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From Lavalys website (News and Events):
News & Events

<snip>
Lavalys Unveils EVEREST Professional
Press Release | 2004-01-08
Lavalys today unveiled EVEREST Professional, an automated
network audit, system change tracking and network
monitoring solution for small and large corporate
enterprises.


Unleash the Power of EVEREST for Free!
Special Offer | 2004-01-06
Lavalys today unveiled EVEREST Home Edition, a freeware
system information, system diagnostics and benchmarking
solution for home PC users.

</snip>

D.
 
LOL - yes - I know about that one, it's the one on the
Pricelessware page *now*.

It sounds to me as if they are going to shut down the
AIDA32 web site.

Where do we DL AIDA32 when that happens?

Susan
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Dunno the answer to that, and/or the distribution rights
question.
Can't volunteer anyone, some sites host old files.
File Library and others come to mind.
Friends often don't mind sharing with friends, and sharing with
friends, and peresonal archival copies violate, no ones copy
rights.
 
It's great when someone has the chance to make some money from
their programming efforts but what is so d&mn difficult about
telling the truth???

Why not just say something like: "I got an offer that I couldn't
refuse" rather than say what was said? Of course it is entirely
possible that AIDA was a project intended to go commercial as soon
as all the major bugs were squashed. ;-)) (Note: The Lavasys
website seems to have been created last year (2003). Just some
food for thought!)

Also, a thanks to all the FREE Beta testers of AIDA might have
been nice as well!!!
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Well, I'm surprised by the secrecy too, but I've been following Fiery
and the forum for a while now and he always made clear that once he
felt that AIDA32 was "up-to-snuff", that it would go commercial. That
said, I believe he's trying to distance himself from AIDA32 for good
reason. Lavalys *IS* AIDA32. Fiery gave extensive support for AIDA32:
a freeware product. The Lavalys page specfically says there is no tech
support for the freeware version. Fiery wants to devote himself to his
corporate customers who give him money (rightfully so!).

If he ever decides to ditch the freeware version, I would be very
tempted to buy a personal copy for myself! It's $30/node which is not
bad at all. I might just buy it if they will license it for just one
computer.

Adam
 
Adam Leinss said:
Well, I'm surprised by the secrecy too, but I've been following
Fiery
and the forum for a while now and he always made clear that
once he
felt that AIDA32 was "up-to-snuff", that it would go
commercial.
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I'm a long-time devoted user, but not a frequent forum reader, I
wouldn't mind seeing some of those posts. Are they still there?
I'm sincerely interested. Any links?
That said, I believe he's trying to distance himself from
AIDA32 for good
reason. Lavalys *IS* AIDA32.
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Not quite sure what you mean here, other than the obvious, that
Everest is identical to AIDA32. I see that Everest was released
the beginning of Jan 2004

Fiery gave extensive support for AIDA32:
a freeware product. The Lavalys page specfically says there is
no tech
support for the freeware version.
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Yeah, which is not good. They mention something about a forum
being available some time in the future, so there's that glimmer
of hope.

Fiery wants to devote himself to his
corporate customers who give him money (rightfully so!).
Absolutely.


If he ever decides to ditch the freeware version, I would be
very
tempted to buy a personal copy for myself! It's $30/node which
is not
bad at all. I might just buy it if they will license it for
just one
computer.
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Unless another tools becomes available that can feed my IT
department's HW/SW audit database as well as AIDA32/Everest can,
I'll be a paying customer of Everest as soon as AIDA32's
information is obsolete. (My apologies if this talk about paying
for Everest is inappropriate for this newsgroup.)
Adam
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My 2 cents (ok, maybe a dime's worth),
D.
 
dsmcd said:
I'm a long-time devoted user, but not a frequent forum reader, I
wouldn't mind seeing some of those posts. Are they still there?
I'm sincerely interested. Any links?
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Surprisingly, my account was deleted within the last month without my
knowledge, so I cannot search on posts I made with my nickname. I
also searched for the word "free" and it shows 3 posts and I _know_
there was more posts then that where he talked about why it was free
and when it wouldn't be.
I believe these posts were removed on purpose.
Not quite sure what you mean here, other than the obvious, that
Everest is identical to AIDA32. I see that Everest was released
the beginning of Jan 2004
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Obvious to us, yes. But Fiery keeps dodging the issue that Everest
is, in fact, AIDA32. I believe he also has a more active role in
Everest then he is letting on. I notified him of a bug in the program
with Novell client detection and he was immediately able to find and
correct the bug, i.e. he has extensively knowledge of the source code.

Adam
 
(e-mail address removed) (Adam Leinss) wrote:

Obvious to us, yes. But Fiery keeps dodging the issue that
Everest
I believe he also has a more active role in
Everest then he is letting on.
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Yes, that's the crux. I'd love to know if the transition to
Everest was hostile or honest.

D.
 
Il 24/03/2004 6.36, dsmcd scrisse:
Argh. I have AIDA32 automated CSV files generated at logon and
imported into a sql database for realtime audits. All for
hundreds of computers state-wide. Everything was finally
perfected and working smooth.

Bad, sad, news. So very many things just got so very worse.
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Take a look at this program:

http://ocsinventory.sourceforge.net/

bye
maxx
 
Well, I kinda agree. But it does provide a lot of information and it's
nicely organized.
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If a audit/info program is what you want (not diagnostic like Aida),
Mike Sa. recently suggested<http://www.pxserver.com/WinAudit.htm>.
Nice, small, no install, and w/alt. report formats.

For something more like Aida, there is always Sisoftware Sandra
Standard Edition (Liteware) <http://www.sisoftware.net/>. See the
following post by Thorsten Duhn with good suggestion for how to avoid
the reminders (reminders when you try to access features/modules
present only in the full version):
<http://google.com/groups?&[email protected]>

As for hardware-info, a nice little program:
CPU-Z <http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php>
and from the same site:
PC WIZARD, <http://www.cpuid.com/pcw.php>,
larger and more complete with both hardware and Windows system info,
benchmarks etc.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
[..]
As Riley would have said, "What a revoltin' development this is!" Anyone
know why? No explanation that I can find on the Web site.
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But in the forum he gives some hints. Seems he's getting married and he
mentions a better job and therefore lack of time.
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I wonder if the "better job" is with this lot?
http://www.lavalys.com/index.php?page=product&view=1&subpage=3

Looks rather familiar, does it not?

http://www.lavalys.com/index.php?page=product&view=1&subpage=2
The free HOME edition loses out on some features that WERE in Aida32,
but it looks a far worthier successor to Aida32 than Belarc.

The Aida32 forum is raging with quelled speculation, and other forums
have been pushing the envelope even further, comparing screenshots,
version numbers (3.93 - 1.00.93) and the locations
(Hungarian R&D office - Yeah right!)

It leaves a bad taste, but if the Lavalys Everest free/pro split
doesn't cut where it bother's you, it looks set to carry the Aida32
baton forward.
 
Matt said:
The Aida32 forum is raging with quelled speculation, and other
forums
have been pushing the envelope even further, comparing
screenshots,
version numbers (3.93 - 1.00.93) and the locations
(Hungarian R&D office - Yeah right!)
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Since I'm a long time devoted AIDA32 user, I'd like to see these
other forums.

Any links?

Oh, and the AIDA32 forum pointed out this little tidbit today:
Host info lavalys.hu 2/3000/50/0; 03/26/04 09:01:58
Official name: lavalys.hu
IP address: 62.112.193.37

Host info aida32.hu 2/3000/50/0; 03/26/04 09:03:42
Official name: aida32.hu
IP address: 62.112.193.37

FWIW,
D.
 
Bjorn said:
If a audit/info program is what you want (not diagnostic like Aida),
Mike Sa. recently suggested<http://www.pxserver.com/WinAudit.htm>.
Click to expand...

Just downloaded it and will check it out.
Nice, small, no install, and w/alt. report formats.
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No, I agree with you. Combined audit and diagnostics is what we're
talking about. Belarc was just the first thing that came to mind, and
you're right: it's pretty much just an audit. Still, it does a very
good job of auditing software and either it or Mike's recommendation
(WinAudit) might be good in conjunction with the last link you
mention. Belarc does (or at least used to) have a very annoying habit
of adding an entry to you IE Favorites folder and if you deleted it,
the next time you used Belarc the link would be back.
For something more like Aida, there is always Sisoftware Sandra
Standard Edition (Liteware) <http://www.sisoftware.net/>. See the
following post by Thorsten Duhn with good suggestion for how to avoid
the reminders (reminders when you try to access features/modules
present only in the full version):
<http://google.com/groups?&[email protected]>

As for hardware-info, a nice little program:
CPU-Z <http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php>
and from the same site:
PC WIZARD, <http://www.cpuid.com/pcw.php>,
larger and more complete with both hardware and Windows system info,
benchmarks etc.
Click to expand...

Thanks for your assessments, Bjorn. I just checked out that PC Wizard
link. Never heard of that one. Frankly, I think you're right. That one
looks like a more suitable replacement for Aida32. Very nicely done
page for that program. Only downsides I can see are that the download
is an installation executable and that software detection seems to be
limited to "Microsoft® Applications". But no big thing since I've used
CPUID in the past and really liked it. Just downloaded PC Wizard 2004
and will check it out.
 
John Corliss wrote in said:
Belarc does (or at least used to) have a very annoying habit
of adding an entry to you IE Favorites folder and if you deleted it,
the next time you used Belarc the link would be back.
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Yes, and auto generates and drops a copy of hmtl report in temp
somewhere, which is easy to forget... Also it insist on installing to
C: (I want it on D: so have to move "by hand" after)...in short a few
annoyances...minor, but still. I like WinAudit better, no install and
optional report formats.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn said:
Yes, and auto generates and drops a copy of hmtl report in temp
somewhere, which is easy to forget... Also it insist on installing to
C: (I want it on D: so have to move "by hand" after)...in short a few
annoyances...minor, but still. I like WinAudit better, no install and
optional report formats.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
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Bjorn:

Have you (or anyone) compared WinAudit, Aida (as it exists now) and
SiSoft Sandra and Belarc for significant features? Or at least any
important shortcomings?.

Last time I ran it, the free SiSoft was disabled in several important
display checks on my machine, where Aida and WinAudit appear to give a
complete display.

If you don't plan to upgrade your hardware for some time, Aida as it
exists now would still be a contender.

Mike Sa
 
ms wrote in said:
Have you (or anyone) compared WinAudit, Aida (as it exists now) and
SiSoft Sandra and Belarc for significant features? Or at least any
important shortcomings?.
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Not me no, nor do I know any. I have not searched for it, but
I'm sure there must be some hardware sites or pc-mags out there that
have given Sandra and Aida a "head to head" comparison once.

Btw: I guess first thing to note is the Belarc and WinAudit are audit
programs, whereas Sandra and Aida more than that, with diagnostics and
benchmarks. So if you are to compare all four, I guess you could
compare only the sysmte/software info part - compare what they report,
if any of them leave anything out compared to the others etc.

Me, I don't need this kind of programs very often, but they are
certainly most handy to have when I do. So as a rule, if two or three
good alternatives exist, I'll try to keep all of them handy - and use
what ever *seems to* satisfy my current needs first and simplest there
and then. I guess sometimes - which ever comes first in my current
start menu sort order decides which I try first, and I only try the
next one if the first one did not hack it or if it left me lost in
navigation....
Last time I ran it, the free SiSoft was disabled in several important
display checks on my machine, where Aida and WinAudit appear to give a
complete display.
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Yes some of the modules are not present in the free version, I forget
which now, but in one of previous message in this thread
<I noted:
See the following post by Thorsten Duhn with good suggestion for
how to avoid the reminders (reminders when you try to access
features/modules present only in the full version):

If you don't plan to upgrade your hardware for some time, Aida as it
exists now would still be a contender.
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Aida is very good. And most useful is the 16-bit edition, which you
can run from a DOS floppy. Handy if your building computers, or have
to replace some cards etc - say if you experience IRQ conflicts or
other hardware related problems. Or simply handy to test and "see"
that your system "hangs together" after having tossed in all the
hardware parts. Btw: did not find the 16-bit version at their site
now, the previous dos page url gave a 404...but not hard to find
elsewhere, just do a google. The latest 16-bit version I have on disk
is 202, don't know if this is the latest though.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn said:
Not me no, nor do I know any. I have not searched for it, but
I'm sure there must be some hardware sites or pc-mags out there that
have given Sandra and Aida a "head to head" comparison once. snip

Aida is very good. And most useful is the 16-bit edition, which you
can run from a DOS floppy. Handy if your building computers, or have
to replace some cards etc - say if you experience IRQ conflicts or
other hardware related problems. Or simply handy to test and "see"
that your system "hangs together" after having tossed in all the
hardware parts. Btw: did not find the 16-bit version at their site
now, the previous dos page url gave a 404...but not hard to find
elsewhere, just do a google. The latest 16-bit version I have on disk
is 202, don't know if this is the latest though.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
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Thanks for the info.
I have the older Aida DOS v2.10. Actually plan in future to scan my old
DOS 486/50 with it.

Mike Sa
 
ms wrote in said:
I have the older Aida DOS v2.10.[...]
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Found v2.12-1126 here
<ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/utildiag/aida16en.zip>
(file dates inside archive: 26 November 2003)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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