AGP Aperture: Don't set it above 64meg

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Michael said:
Where are you seeing this??? The Very first post in this thread in
the ATI newsgroup has No questions at all. He simply made an
observation on what worked for him in the hope that some (non
anal-retentive) people would find his experiences helpful.



And a total waste of bandwidth along with all your attempts to defend
it.

Has it occurred to any of you to actually comment on the issue asked?
 
Looker007 said:
Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
product.
He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card"; He
asked: "What is the ideal
aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think it's
an ATi card,
yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't you
agree?

What question? From what I can see the OP was offering advice, not asking a
question at all.

Cheers.
 
Looker007 said:
Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
product.
He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card"; He
asked: "What is the ideal
aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think it's
an ATi card,
yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't you
agree?
The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the author of
the
post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any "off
the cuff" reply.
My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.

Looker007,
it may be my ignorance, but I completely fail to see the reason why you
said he was getting off topic.
it was clearly a person who was trying to help by telling us about his
specific example where his gf3 had weird issues and that he could not
replicate the issues with the ati9800 he replaced the GF3 with. However,
being that you know about Netiquette i would assume that you know how forums
work, especially unmoderated ones. With that being said i think the person
truely off topic would be you. when you posted that message i'm sure you
knew you were going to start a flame war. my question is why? with an
unmoderated group, why was it your responsibility to point out someone who
mentioned another product? these ati and nvidia forums were designed to keep
the main topic relevant to each company, but who is to say that they can't
have common issues or problems? and if so, why can't we talk about both
here? it's not like ati and nvida are trying to kill each other, why should
we then? i own both nvida and ati cards in my house and i know that both
cards have their place.
 
Michael said:
Where are you seeing this??? The Very first post in this thread in the
ATI newsgroup has No questions at all. He simply made an observation on
what worked for him in the hope that some (non anal-retentive) people
would find his experiences helpful.



And a total waste of bandwidth along with all your attempts to defend it.
Wrong! A total waste of bandwidth is fielding comments in the newsgroup
that aren't related to ATi video cards in general.
Don't be so lazy and search the A.C.P groups, I'm sure there's one that
will fit one's question..
If your ISP doesn't carry the appropriate group then subscribe to a news
service that does.

Me waste bandwidth, hahaha, lol..in relation to what?
In the BIG scheme of things my text is but a period on some
cosmic page.

Get a life and stop defending usenet abusers.
 
Chris said:
Looker007,
it may be my ignorance, but I completely fail to see the reason why you
said he was getting off topic.
it was clearly a person who was trying to help by telling us about his
specific example where his gf3 had weird issues and that he could not
replicate the issues with the ati9800 he replaced the GF3 with. However,
being that you know about Netiquette i would assume that you know how forums
work, especially unmoderated ones. With that being said i think the person
truely off topic would be you. when you posted that message i'm sure you
I've been on the internet since the 80's so yes I do know and understand
what you're
saying... Perhaps I missed the "Original post" and came in on a "RE:"
where I only saw
the mention of the GeF card:
"rms wrote:
I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
hold for all
systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
crashes. rms"
To me seeing the above (in quotes) statement was off topic. As I said above
anything NOT ATi specific would best be served in another A.C.P newsgroup.
Non-moderated usenet groups are supposed to be self-policing. In
otherwords if someone
does post "Off Topic" material someone should use the "bandwidth" to
tell the offending
poster. I excercised that right for the above post, whether original or
"RE:"
It wasn't my intention to start any flame war, but I'm amazed that
unrelated ATi topics are
allowed.
I'm from the "old school" and am a firm believer in "person (gentlemens)
agreements".
knew you were going to start a flame war. my question is why? with an
unmoderated group, why was it your responsibility to point out someone who
mentioned another product? these ati and nvidia forums were designed to keep
the main topic relevant to each company, but who is to say that they can't
have common issues or problems? and if so, why can't we talk about both
here? it's not like ati and nvida are trying to kill each other, why should
we then? i own both nvida and ati cards in my house and i know that both
cards have their place.
If there are common issues then its a MAINBOARD discussion as the post
indicated, not a video card issue.
IE: Aperature setting=mainboard issue.. Best answered on
A.C.P.MAINBOARD, anyone who doesn't subscribe to that usenet group,
why not? I do... I sub to every relevant usenet group that I'm
interested in. I don't take a lazy approach an post on
a "similiar" newsgroup, simply to avoid what has transpired here.
...And yes I have been flamed by other usenet grous for supposedly
posting "off topic" material, which to me was
relevant... I got the same spiel from a usenet "watchdog" that I was
off topic and that my question best be
served on another usenet group "blank.blank.blank.blank"

If I've caused any misunderstandings I apologize..
From now on this newsgroup can go to the perverbial dogs. I'll let
some other
internet "caring" person take the flak for addressing OFF TOPIC posting.
Just because a person has any other brand of vid card other than ATi
doesn't make posting here
right.
In future I just won't read nor comment on the post.


I did have another answer for the poster, but I doubt he/she will read
this post..
Aperature setting depends not only on the amount of memory your video
card has
but also on the amount of memory you have on the mainboard.
If your video card has 256MB of video memory, you really shouldn't need
an Aperature
setting larger than 64, why? Because there aren't hardly any games or
apps being published
today that will use the 256MB of on board video memory...
Another rule of thumb I read about said not to make your Aperature
setting larger than .25, one
quarter of your system onboard ram.. I forget were I read this, it could
have been on Tom's Hardware
site, in the LangaNews newsletter or on Guru3D,.. someplace.. If in
doubt do a Google on mainboard Aperature
setting.

The correct number has always been of interest to em as well, but I
follow the "one quarter" rule of thumb...Another
question may be: Does the video application, be it game or program
really use the alloted Aperature memory setting?
When the vid card's memory is used up, does the program or game start
to lag or stutter or even quit for lack of video memory?
;)

--Looker007
 
Looker007 said:
Wrong! A total waste of bandwidth is fielding comments in the newsgroup
that aren't related to ATi video cards in general.
Don't be so lazy and search the A.C.P groups, I'm sure there's one that
will fit one's question..
If your ISP doesn't carry the appropriate group then subscribe to a news
service that does.

Me waste bandwidth, hahaha, lol..in relation to what?
In the BIG scheme of things my text is but a period on some
cosmic page.

Get a life and stop defending usenet abusers.
I replied earlier in this thread with my technical thoughts/suggestions. You
sound angry that your view on the appropriateness or otherwise of a post has
been challenged. You must have heard the term "winning the battle but
loosing the war" right? Well if you continue like this you'll be loosing
both the war and the battle (and at the moment I'm not even sure you've won
a battle in the first place). I'm much more willing to listen to the views
of people who don't come across as having an authoritarian or dictatorial
tone when it comes to what people post and in which newsgroups. Putdowns
such as telling people to "Get a life" don't convince me to accept that
persons viewpoint and it says more about the accuser than the accused.

Paul
 
Looker007 said:
Wrong! A total waste of bandwidth is fielding comments in the newsgroup
that aren't related to ATi video cards in general.


So how come you aren't flaming RonGrossi?? His posts aren't even
related to computers, much less ATI or it's products.

Don't be so lazy and search the A.C.P groups, I'm sure there's one that
will fit one's question..


Most of us don't have your time to read every newsgroup looking for that
tidbit that may come in useful later on. The OP's posting may be useful
to someone with an ATI, nVidia, SIS, or any clone video card. So the OP
should have posted to every video group and mainboard group?

If your ISP doesn't carry the appropriate group then subscribe to a news
service that does.

So you are going to pay for every usenet user's access to some uber
newsgroup that carries everything?

Me waste bandwidth, hahaha, lol..in relation to what?
In the BIG scheme of things my text is but a period on some
cosmic page.

And how much time have you spent being an inept usenet Gestapo?
 
*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:- ¸ô¶ó -:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*

Can't decide whether

- your an incompetent troll
- a part time netcop
- or just a ****in idiot

Which is it Looker ?

¸ô¶ó
 
Chris said:
Looker007,
it may be my ignorance, but I completely fail to see the reason why you
said he was getting off topic.
it was clearly a person who was trying to help by telling us about his
specific example where his gf3 had weird issues and that he could not
replicate the issues with the ati9800 he replaced the GF3 with. However,
being that you know about Netiquette i would assume that you know how
forums work, especially unmoderated ones. With that being said i think the
person truely off topic would be you. when you posted that message i'm
sure you knew you were going to start a flame war. my question is why?
with an unmoderated group, why was it your responsibility to point out
someone who mentioned another product? these ati and nvidia forums were
designed to keep the main topic relevant to each company, but who is to
say that they can't have common issues or problems? and if so, why can't
we talk about both here? it's not like ati and nvida are trying to kill
each other, why should we then? i own both nvida and ati cards in my house
and i know that both cards have their place.

Just write him off as a netcop-wannabee and toss him where he belongs.
 
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