Adding an item to "Send To" menu

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Thu, 4 Aug 2005:



FS

Jaymon said *right-click* on My Computer, not open it. Right-click and you
should see Manage in the context menu that pops up.

===============================
OK, I did that - see above message. It opened a window called "Computer
Management" which only contains:

System Tools - Storage - Services and Applications.

There is nothing there (I'm looking at it) about users and the other things
he mentions.

FS~

 

[Nightowl]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Thu, 4 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl wrote:]

OK, I did that - see above message. It opened a window called
"Computer Management" which only contains:

System Tools - Storage - Services and Applications.

There is nothing there (I'm looking at it) about users and the other
things he mentions.

Right. And each of those categories should have a sign (+} next to it
which you can click on to expand it. Are you saying you are not seeing
this? When I expand System Tools I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Local Users and Groups
Performance Logs and Alerts
Device Manager

According to this Knowledge Base article, all these options and tools
should be the same in both Home and Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423

If you're not seeing these options, it seems it's one more thing that's
seriously broken in your installation :-(

 

[Nightowl]

Nightowl wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

Right. And each of those categories should have a sign (+} next to it
which you can click on to expand it. Are you saying you are not seeing
this?

Just had another thought -- if you only see a single pane, instead of
two, and don't see the expansion boxes next to the categories, this
could be why:

In the management console, go to the View menu, click on Customise and
make sure Console Tree is checked, then OK. You should now see the +
signs -- can you?

However, I'm confused; first you said you saw only three categories,
then in your reply to Jaymon, you said:

I opened the tree to look - no "local users and groups."

So do you see a tree with expansion boxes next to the categories, or
not? Single pane or double like Explorer?

 

[Guest]

Double click on system tools and you should see it, sorry if i confused you..
I also forgot in my haste to mention for you to click the apply button when
complete..

J

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Thu, 4 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl wrote:]

OK, I did that - see above message. It opened a window called "Computer
Management" which only contains:

System Tools - Storage - Services and Applications.

There is nothing there (I'm looking at it) about users and the other
things he mentions.

--------------

Right. And each of those categories should have a sign (+} next to it
which you can click on to expand it. Are you saying you are not seeing
this? When I expand System Tools I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Local Users and Groups
Performance Logs and Alerts
Device Manager

## OK, this is what I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Performance Logs and Alerts.
Device Manager...

That's it!! :-( No Local Users and Groups.

According to this Knowledge Base article, all these options and tools
should be the same in both Home and Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423

## There always has been items MISSING from my version of XP-Home. It makes
it difficult to follow anyone's advice here or get real help from websites.
Why? How can I do anything when so many things do not exist on my PC?

Another thing: I'm the Owner Administrator of this PC and can't sign off -
I get a "Serious System Error" message.....

If you're not seeing these options, it seems it's one more thing that's
seriously broken in your installation :-(

## Then it was broken right from HP, and broken again after they replaced my
HD and reinstalled a whole new version of XP-Home. :*(

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Double click on system tools and you should see it, sorry if i confused
you..
I also forgot in my haste to mention for you to click the apply button
when
complete..

======================
Done and it is not there. This is what is under Tools there:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Preformance Logs and Alerts ........ and
Device Manager.

Nothing about Users

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

According to this Knowledge Base article, all these options and tools
should be the same in both Home and Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423

============================
And there is no mention at that site about "Users and Groups" being there
under Tools! That's exactly when I see under Tools. These three.

The administrative tools in Computer Management are grouped into the
following three categories in the console tree: . System Tools
. Storage
. Services and Applications


FS~

 

[Nightowl]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

And there is no mention at that site about "Users and Groups" being
there under Tools! That's exactly when I see under Tools. These three.

But there is. That's why I referenced it to you.

The administrative tools in Computer Management are grouped into the
following three categories in the console tree: . System Tools
. Storage
. Services and Applications

Read on. . . "Each category includes several tools or services." It goes
on to list them. First heading is System Tools: 7th line under that (3rd
bullet down), Local Users and Groups.

I'll answer your other one separately to avoid confusing things more

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Nightowl wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

## I see these only:

System Tools
Storage
Services and Applications

Under System Tools I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Performance Logs and Alerts
Device Manager

NOTHING about Users and Groups there!!!!

Just had another thought -- if you only see a single pane, instead of two,
and don't see the expansion boxes next to the categories, this could be
why:

In the management console, go to the View menu, click on Customise and
make sure Console Tree is checked, then OK. You should now see the +
signs -- can you?

## Yes. It was checked as the default.

However, I'm confused; first you said you saw only three categories, then
in your reply to Jaymon, you said:

## No, that one is not there.

So do you see a tree with expansion boxes next to the categories, or not?
Single pane or double like Explorer?

## On my PC it's a double pane like WE.

FS~

 

[Nightowl]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl said:]

## OK, this is what I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Performance Logs and Alerts.
Device Manager...

That's it!! :-( No Local Users and Groups.


## There always has been items MISSING from my version of XP-Home. It
makes it difficult to follow anyone's advice here or get real help from
websites. Why? How can I do anything when so many things do not exist
on my PC?

I'm afraid it's because somehow your account wasn't properly set up when
XP was first installed. It doesn't have a normal user profile, with all
the folders you should have and the usual "links" and paths within
Windows (that's why you haven't got a working Send To folder). It's also
probably why, though you should be an administrator, it's not working
properly when you try to create new users, and that may be why you've
"lost" Users and Groups in Computer Management as well.

There seems to be many problems and bits of the OS missing from your
installation, and maybe many more problems in store in the future
because you don't have the folder setup and structure that Windows and
other programs will expect you to have, you can't do things you ought to
be able to do, and as you say, it's difficult to follow help because
your setup is not what it should be . . . It's just not a reliable
install. To put it bluntly, it's a mess.

This is probably exactly what you don't want to hear, but I would take
the PC to a *knowledgeable*, preferably fairly local computer person
(not a big chain) and have him or her get all your data off, wipe the
old installation and re-install XP properly and set it up for you. I
know it's a horrible thing to have to do but it would be much better in
the long run than trying to struggle along with a broken OS, really.

Another thing: I'm the Owner Administrator of this PC and can't sign
off - I get a "Serious System Error" message.....

Your XP setup is broken, you see.

## Then it was broken right from HP, and broken again after they
replaced my HD and reinstalled a whole new version of XP-Home. :*(

Possibly. . . I couldn't say. But the OEM pre-install will only create
the built-in Administrator and system accounts. It's for the new owner
to set up the working accounts he/she wants. Get someone reliable who
knows what they're doing to re-install and set it up properly for you.

 

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Thu, 4 Aug 2005:



Right. And each of those categories should have a sign (+} next
to it which you can click on to expand it. Are you saying you
are not seeing this? When I expand System Tools I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Local Users and Groups
Performance Logs and Alerts
Device Manager

According to this Knowledge Base article, all these options and
tools should be the same in both Home and Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423

If you're not seeing these options, it seems it's one more thing
that's seriously broken in your installation :-(

Hi,

Actually, that knowledge base article states that the "Local Users and
Groups" entry only exists for WinXP Pro, it is not available for
WinXP Home:

<quote>
Local Users and Groups

Use the Local Users and Groups tool to create and manage your local
user accounts and groups. Local Users and Groups is available only
in Windows XP Professional
</quote>

 

[Nightowl]

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl said:]

Hi,

Actually, that knowledge base article states that the "Local Users and
Groups" entry only exists for WinXP Pro, it is not available for
WinXP Home:

You are absolutely right, Torgeir, thank you for the correction! I read
at the bottom that the article applied to both Pro and Home, and didn't
see this caution at all. That'll teach me to stay up all night.

FS, sincere apologies -- you weren't seeing it because it shouldn't be
there Sorry for the confusion.

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:


But there is. That's why I referenced it to you.

## Where? When I open the tree there is no "Users and Groups" under these
headers.

Read on. . . "Each category includes several tools or services." It goes
on to list them. First heading is System Tools: 7th line under that (3rd
bullet down), Local Users and Groups.

## Where under Tools is "User and Groups" located? All I see there is:

Event Viewer
Application
Trace Logs
System... where is "Users and Groups?"

I'll answer your other one separately to avoid confusing things more

## Where are "Users and Groups" found there on that window?

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl said:]

## OK, this is what I see:

Event Viewer
Shared Folders
Performance Logs and Alerts.
Device Manager...

That's it!! :-( No Local Users and Groups.


## There always has been items MISSING from my version of XP-Home. It
makes it difficult to follow anyone's advice here or get real help from
websites. Why? How can I do anything when so many things do not exist on
my PC?

I'm afraid it's because somehow your account wasn't properly set up when
XP was first installed.

$$ It was set us as myself being the Owner Administrator.

It doesn't have a normal user profile, with all

the folders you should have and the usual "links" and paths within Windows
(that's why you haven't got a working Send To folder). It's also probably
why, though you should be an administrator, it's not working properly when
you try to create new users, and that may be why you've "lost" Users and
Groups in Computer Management as well.

$$ How can I fix this then? I can't log off as the Owner Admin or I get a
"serious system error."

There seems to be many problems and bits of the OS missing from your
installation, and maybe many more problems in store in the future because
you don't have the folder setup and structure that Windows and other
programs will expect you to have, you can't do things you ought to be able
to do, and as you say, it's difficult to follow help because your setup is
not what it should be . . . It's just not a reliable install. To put it
bluntly, it's a mess.

$$ What can I do about it now? It's been this way for 2 years.

This is probably exactly what you don't want to hear, but I would take the
PC to a *knowledgeable*, preferably fairly local computer person (not a
big chain) and have him or her get all your data off,

$$ I have everything backed up myself. The last time I took it to the PC
shop here in town it cost $300! Labor alone is something like $75 an hour
now. Or it's $75 just to come to your house - plus labor (if you can find
one these days). And they don't work fast.

wipe the

old installation and re-install XP properly and set it up for you. I know
it's a horrible thing to have to do but it would be much better in the
long run than trying to struggle along with a broken OS, really.

$$ So I should me logged on/in as the Administrator and not the Owner
Administrator?

Possibly. . . I couldn't say. But the OEM pre-install will only create the
built-in Administrator and system accounts. It's for the new owner to set
up the working accounts he/she wants. Get someone reliable who knows what
they're doing to re-install and set it up properly for you.

$$ I wonder of I can reach the lake if I toss it from the diningroom
window............

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Hi,

Actually, that knowledge base article states that the "Local Users and
Groups" entry only exists for WinXP Pro, it is not available for
WinXP Home:

## AAARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...... and I spend so much time looking for
it!!!!!! >:-( Thank you! I was starting to think I was losing my sanity.

<quote>
Local Users and Groups

Use the Local Users and Groups tool to create and manage your local
user accounts and groups. Local Users and Groups is available only
in Windows XP Professional
</quote>

## And I try and make a point that I have XP-HOME/SP2. I've suspected and
even asked if the information I sometimes get here is for Pro or another
version of XP. Some of the techs assume everyone is using the PRO version,
or that's the version they're familiar with.

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote on Fri, 5 Aug 2005:

[Nightowl said:]

Hi,

Actually, that knowledge base article states that the "Local Users and
Groups" entry only exists for WinXP Pro, it is not available for
WinXP Home:

You are absolutely right, Torgeir, thank you for the correction! I read at
the bottom that the article applied to both Pro and Home, and didn't see
this caution at all. That'll teach me to stay up all night.

$$ Drink lots of strong coffee when you stay up late. It helps keep me
awake. ))

FS, sincere apologies -- you weren't seeing it because it shouldn't be
there Sorry for the confusion.

$$ Sh*t happens......... ignore my other post. I saw it before these.

FS~

 

[Gene K]

You MUST right click "My Computer" on the Desktop. There is no Icon.
Gene