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john
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NoStop
Cymbal said:I'd keep using XP until 2009 when the next OS comes out. Vista looks like
a real loser.
This is probably the last "operating system" Microsoft releases. So either
live with it or move on over to a real operating system like Ubuntu.
Cheers.
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Alias
Carey said:If you have an "OEM version", then the only
upgrade not permitted is the motherboard.
Can you prove this or are you just making it up as you go along? Also,
are you referring to a branded or generic OEM?
Alias
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Alias
Julie said:Ummm, the price is the price. You should get over it and just deal with it.
All software is "rented" (open source software excluded). Not sure if you
know that, yet. Every game you buy, every program you buy... What's that
thing you click when you are in the setup program? "I agree". Did you think
clicked that to say, "I agree to let it install"? If you "owned" the
software, you'd have the source code to it.
How come, then, every single computer store advertises that they sell
software with NO MENTION of buying a license. Bait and switch? If it
were made clear to the customers, perhaps these questions would not be
posted every single day on this newsgroup.
The fact is the software companies don't want you to know and hope you
will just click on "I agree" and not read the EULA.
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Eric
Nah, they'll keep releasing a new OS at least every 4-5 years.NoStop said:This is probably the last "operating system" Microsoft releases. So either
live with it or move on over to a real operating system like Ubuntu.
Cheers.
They should come up with a few more OS's as 64 bit machines become more
common.
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Alias
Eric said:Nah, they'll keep releasing a new OS at least every 4-5 years.
They should come up with a few more OS's as 64 bit machines become more
common.
I thought it was common knowledge that MS will release Vienna in two
years. First they gotta clean up with NT's version of Windows Me, Vista
and, so they say, Vienna will be what they said Vista will be.
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Jeffrey S. Sparks
Just about every piece of software out there on the market today is licensed
not sold out right...
Jeff
not sold out right...
Jeff
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Alias
Jeffrey said:Just about every piece of software out there on the market today is
licensed not sold out right...
Jeff
My point. Just because everyone is in on the bait and switch scam
doesn't make it right. No store advertises "licenses" to buy and ALL of
them advertise "software" for sale, be they web shops or brick and
mortar shops.
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Jeffrey S. Sparks
Actually it's true with most "media." even music cd's, movies, etc... If
you read the fine print of say a movie dvd it has restrictions on how you
can use it. The reason is they want money for their product. If they
"sold" it to you, then you could turn around and sell it for what ever you
want and then they wouldn't make any money and would probably go out of
business.
Jeff
you read the fine print of say a movie dvd it has restrictions on how you
can use it. The reason is they want money for their product. If they
"sold" it to you, then you could turn around and sell it for what ever you
want and then they wouldn't make any money and would probably go out of
business.
Jeff
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Alias
Jeffrey said:Actually it's true with most "media." even music cd's, movies, etc...
If you read the fine print of say a movie dvd it has restrictions on how
you can use it. The reason is they want money for their product. If
they "sold" it to you, then you could turn around and sell it for what
ever you want and then they wouldn't make any money and would probably
go out of business.
Jeff
Then why aren't the shops instructed to be upfront about it with signs
and links that say Software Licenses instead of just Software? People
get the idea that they can do what they want in the privacy of their
home or office with something they buy, which is where I think a lot of
confusion arises.
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Darrell
Alias said:Then why aren't the shops instructed to be upfront about it with signs and
links that say Software Licenses instead of just Software?
For the same reason fast food restaurants don't advertise hamburgers as
"hamburger sandwhiches." Some things are implied, and if the customer wants
more detail they can check the ingredients (or fine print.)
With today's software just about every title has a EULA screen one must
acknowledge before running the software for the first time. It is no one's
fault but the customer if he chooses to click "I agree" without
understanding the document.
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Alias
Darrell said:For the same reason fast food restaurants don't advertise hamburgers as
"hamburger sandwhiches." Some things are implied, and if the customer
wants more detail they can check the ingredients (or fine print.)
Um, restaurants do sell food. Not one shop sells software.
With today's software just about every title has a EULA screen one must
acknowledge before running the software for the first time. It is no
one's fault but the customer if he chooses to click "I agree" without
understanding the document.
And the software companies count on that so they can get away with their
restrictive EULAs.
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Jeffrey S. Sparks
Alias said:Um, restaurants do sell food. Not one shop sells software.
And the software companies count on that so they can get away with their
restrictive EULAs.
Alias
I don't think your going to find any retailer throwing up signs, "software
licenses sold here!"
Jeff
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Alias
Jeffrey said:I don't think your going to find any retailer throwing up signs,
"software licenses sold here!"
Jeff
Of course not, they're an integral part of the bait and switch scam.
That said, there are exceptions. Where I buy my licenses does advertise
licenses on their web site but I buy from a wholesaler and you need a
user name and password to see the site.
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Eric
Alias said:Of course not, they're an integral part of the bait and switch scam. That
said, there are exceptions. Where I buy my licenses does advertise
licenses on their web site but I buy from a wholesaler and you need a user
name and password to see the site.
Alias
Software is licensed like any other license. That license is sold as part
of a software package that includes a copy of the software for you to run.
It is written in the fine print that the package includes a license.
If you buy a hunting package that includes a trip to some woods stocked with
deer, and a license to hunt, that does not mean you own hunting. You still
have to obey the rules of the license that say how many deer you can hunt.
You are not free to kill as many deer as you like, keeping only the limit
specified in the license and giving the rest to your friends. It does not
have to be written on the front of the hunting package that the license is
included. It can be in the fine print.