Acrobat Reader 7 is better than 6

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BarryTone said:
So was PDF (Portable Document Format).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format

But I do agree PDF is NOT meant to be modified (that's why there's
viewer called Adobe READER). Adobe has online tools that will allow
users to convert PDF's to text or HTML.
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My complaint about PDF is it's usually set up as "portrait". I have a
"landscape" display on my computer, and cannot tilt it sideways so the
whole page shows at once. The tool bar at the top makes this worse.

Then there's the idiots that use three columns and lots of pictures
embedded in the text. Up, down, left, right, up, down...

And, the print is usually fuzzier than it would be with HTML.

Sure, all these things could be solved by throwing money around. Hah, hah.
 
o convert PDF's to text or HTML.
My complaint about PDF is it's usually set up as "portrait". I have a
"landscape" display on my computer, and cannot tilt it sideways so the
whole page shows at once. The tool bar at the top makes this worse.

Then there's the idiots that use three columns and lots of pictures
embedded in the text. Up, down, left, right, up, down...

And, the print is usually fuzzier than it would be with HTML.

Sure, all these things could be solved by throwing money around. Hah, hah.
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HTML and PDF are 2 totally different thing designed for 2 totally areas

PDF is designed to print and you find that text usually should print
clearly.... printing HMTL on the other hand is an after thought
 
Bebop said:
HTML and PDF are 2 totally different thing designed for 2 totally areas

PDF is designed to print and you find that text usually should print
clearly.... printing HMTL on the other hand is an after thought
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So, I'm supposed to print the PDF's I browse to? Read a couple lines and
toss the printout?

One of the printers at work typically prints one letter per sheet when
asked to print PDF's. That's another goody.
 
Offbreed said:
So, I'm supposed to print the PDF's I browse to? Read a couple lines and
toss the printout?
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It doesn't look like any amount of reading would improve your comprehension
or understanding so I wouldn't bother if I were you.
 
Octavian stated:

Nonsense. HTML was invented to enable document sharing across
platforms. In the late 1980s, mainframes, minis, PCs, and Macs
had no reasonable way to communicate. The beauty of the web was
that existing socket connection technology over TCP/IP could be
used, and the new message "standard" (HTML) enabled a client to
pull a document from a remote server, regardless of platform.

The formatting of the results were unpredictable. But in those
days, that was okay. Prior to that, the only mechanism for document
exchange was plain text! That's easy to edit for content, but
hard to format for appearance. So HTML was a big step forward.

That the layout on your client was not exactly what the author
intended didn't matter. And your ability to change it was even
more limited that with plain text!
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IMHO, HTML was made for Internet... and PDF was made for complex
documents.

I have some service manuals/schematics for TV/monitors/audio equipment
in .PDF. I think that no browser could handle high-complexity images
like electronic circuit schematics.

Even if so, sometimes I like to zoom in to see just the area of the
schematic I'm interested in. HOW would I do this in HTML with images?

And also, PDF is a single file while HTML needs to have all the images
in separate files.


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Chaos Master said:
IMHO, HTML was made for Internet... and PDF was made for complex
documents.
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HTML was made to be a flexible layout system, which the end user can
influence a lot to suit different needs or hardware.

PDF was made to be the opposite, a very inflexible final design, the same
for all viewers, the author has decided how every reader is going to read
the document.
I have some service manuals/schematics for TV/monitors/audio equipment
in .PDF. I think that no browser could handle high-complexity images
like electronic circuit schematics.
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The pictures are the same no matter if they are included in html or pdf
files. The only difference is that you can easily extract the pictures
again from html.
Even if so, sometimes I like to zoom in to see just the area of the
schematic I'm interested in. HOW would I do this in HTML with images?
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I use Opera web browser, I can choose zoom-in level.
If that is not enough I can take the picture into a paint program and
process it.
And also, PDF is a single file while HTML needs to have all the images
in separate files.
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It is easy to zip up a web page with its pictures.
mht is also getting more acceptance.
 
You have missed one of the big advantages of a mark up language like HTML
or the newer XML. The content and the layout are kept separate, to allow
the end user to adapt the layout to his own needs or wishes, and to
different hardware and software environments.

The layout the author has created is more a suggestion, a structure, not
a final layout.

For example:
There are markup tags like H1 H2 H3 H4 for different font sizes. But H1
H2 etc are not fixed to a certain pixel size or certain number of
millimeters, exactly because the end user may want or need to apply his
sizes to the different headings in different situations.
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Not really. The point was to allow the browser to render in an manner
suitable to the system it was running on - not for the user to
arbitrarily modify the layout. The browser made the decision based on
the available system fonts which were expected to vary considerably.

The Web was never intended to be a precise document layout tool - the
content was what mattered, as Tim Berners-Lee and others have said for
years.

Only in the last five years or so have things like CSS and the like
made it possible to more precisely position and render text and
imagery.

PDFs were intended for one purpose - to enable the distribution of
documents across varying platforms which would render as closely as
possible to their original appearance. Content was secondary to
portability and reproduction of the original.
 
Reader Speed Launch is designed to speed up launch by causing virus
detection software to precheck Acrobat. It does this by doing an
open/close (no reads) of each Acrobat component in the background.
Once it has completed all the Acrobat files it quits. If you have no
virus checking software installed or virus detection software that
remembers which files have been checked, this won't speed up launch,
but it also won't do any harm.
 
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