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Lang Murphy
As long as it doesn't rupture you... 
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Justin said:This NG has corrupted me!!!!!
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Justin
Ouch!
Luckily, not yet
Luckily, not yet
Lang Murphy said:As long as it doesn't rupture you...
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HEMI-Powered
Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
What advice was that? Must've missed it, jokingly or not.bet you didn't imply said:
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HEMI-Powered
Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
I knew a Chief Engineer who used to say "there are no
inappropriate question, only inappropriate answers". So, ask
away. If you ASK, I will try to answer. If you challenge, I may
challenge back. So I will ask you: how do you know that cnews or
any other "independent" testing source of anything is or is not
biased? My view comes from the companies themselves commenting,
usually obliquely that while they pride themselves on their
candor, honesty, and lack of bias in the usual sense, they are in
the business of making money and need to watch the back end of
the store, i.e., ad revenue, as well as the front end, i.e.,
sales volume from readers. Some mags, like Consumer's Reports
alleges to be unbiased because they buy all their products, but
their parent company has some ties to advertising. Let's say that
right now, I am skeptical of ALL "unbiased" sources unless than
can convince me somehow they are.
Suppose that both NTSA and the Insurance Institute give a set of
vehicles a 5 Star Crash rating and all the car rags gush
glowingly about the save vehicle. YOu go buy/lease one, wrap it
around a tree, turn yourself into a vegetable and kill your wife.
Was their "unbiased" ratings the cause of this or you? I agree
with your general thesis, of course, but it is you and I who make
the ultimate buying decision based on testing as only one of many
criteria and deciding factors. Another one I've mentioned is
personal testimonials. I take my nephew and PC builder at his
word most of the time because he maintains an excellent awareness
of the good, the bad, and the ugly out there and has personal
experience. But, I often override his judgement. He recommended
nVidia for my last video card; I've had enough and insisted on
ATI. He wanted Western Digital for my HD, I wanted Maxtor. For
those who I know much less, you or either your supporters or
detractors, I will listen to but be more skeptical about until I
see a pattern of "correctness" I can get my arms around.
the wheat from the chaff has always been the most difficult task.
I knew a Chief Engineer who used to say "there are no
inappropriate question, only inappropriate answers". So, ask
away. If you ASK, I will try to answer. If you challenge, I may
challenge back. So I will ask you: how do you know that cnews or
any other "independent" testing source of anything is or is not
biased? My view comes from the companies themselves commenting,
usually obliquely that while they pride themselves on their
candor, honesty, and lack of bias in the usual sense, they are in
the business of making money and need to watch the back end of
the store, i.e., ad revenue, as well as the front end, i.e.,
sales volume from readers. Some mags, like Consumer's Reports
alleges to be unbiased because they buy all their products, but
their parent company has some ties to advertising. Let's say that
right now, I am skeptical of ALL "unbiased" sources unless than
can convince me somehow they are.
Suppose that both NTSA and the Insurance Institute give a set of
vehicles a 5 Star Crash rating and all the car rags gush
glowingly about the save vehicle. YOu go buy/lease one, wrap it
around a tree, turn yourself into a vegetable and kill your wife.
Was their "unbiased" ratings the cause of this or you? I agree
with your general thesis, of course, but it is you and I who make
the ultimate buying decision based on testing as only one of many
criteria and deciding factors. Another one I've mentioned is
personal testimonials. I take my nephew and PC builder at his
word most of the time because he maintains an excellent awareness
of the good, the bad, and the ugly out there and has personal
experience. But, I often override his judgement. He recommended
nVidia for my last video card; I've had enough and insisted on
ATI. He wanted Western Digital for my HD, I wanted Maxtor. For
those who I know much less, you or either your supporters or
detractors, I will listen to but be more skeptical about until I
see a pattern of "correctness" I can get my arms around.
This last is perhaps the telling part of the story. Separating
the wheat from the chaff has always been the most difficult task.
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HEMI-Powered
Today, Stephan Rose made these interesting comments ...
I've known a number of Goldwing owners. They are land yachts
compared to the performance bikes, the crotch rockets as I refer to
them, being discussed here. Like the giant Harley-Davidson road
bikes, these things weigh the better part of 1,000 pounds and are
for cruising comfortably, NOT racing either in the straight or on a
road course.
One needs to buy and drive/ride what they wants and not buy or
drive/ride what they wants. There are exceptions I'm sure, but it
is hard to imagine someone in my climate riding their ultra-
performance bike to work everyday rain, shine, or snow/sleet nor
taking their wife or girlfriend out for dinner.
I've known a number of Goldwing owners. They are land yachts
compared to the performance bikes, the crotch rockets as I refer to
them, being discussed here. Like the giant Harley-Davidson road
bikes, these things weigh the better part of 1,000 pounds and are
for cruising comfortably, NOT racing either in the straight or on a
road course.
One needs to buy and drive/ride what they wants and not buy or
drive/ride what they wants. There are exceptions I'm sure, but it
is hard to imagine someone in my climate riding their ultra-
performance bike to work everyday rain, shine, or snow/sleet nor
taking their wife or girlfriend out for dinner.
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Justin
HEMI-Powered said:
I guess I CAN'T work and reply at the same time. I guess I should also spit
this gum out as well
Yes, I believe you missed the "'nuff said" joke as well.
J
Justin
HEMI-Powered said:
I don't. No one does. In fact I don't even know that 2+2 = this thing we
call 4. You only know what you are taught or discover yourself and certain
things have to be accepted if you want to live in a society that
communicates with each other. To each individual person, everything they
see is fact ONLY to them.
To answer a more appropriate question, why do I think they're non-biased? I
already told you. Those are MY findings with them. Can they be biased on
any subject? Sure! Maybe they have a hidden camera contract with someone.
Maybe Canon pays their iNet bill! Or maybe the person giving the review
just got his wank chopped off by his wife and is in a REALLY bad mood. All
the more reason to NEVER take just one persons opinion. Get MANY opinions.
You challenge me on how I know they can be non-biased. Well:
"ALL reviews of anything ARE biased"
How do YOU know? You don't. I think that comment is complete non-sense.
Maybe that's because you know something I don't, I have no idea. What I do
know is that I could be completely non-biased while reviewing any given
product. Thus, your comment becomes invalid.
I do not show favoritism. I do not waste my time on such silly matters.
PC, Apple, Linux? I use all three. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo? I have all
three. Ford, Chevy? I've bought from both. I can find good and bad in all
things. Do I believe that I'm 100% unique and the only person on this
planet that can do that? No. That is why I say I do think the same way as
you.
So, we have your opinion and we have mind. Shouldn't that be the end of it?
That would be me. What's the point? I missed it. A 5 star rating does not
mean you can't die in a car???
Was this in question?
Seriously bud, I said check out cnet.com IF you haven't already. The reason
this is continuing is because we both do not agree on something being ABLE
to be non-biased.
So you recognize that you know less about something then someone else yet
you'll fly by the seat of your own pants?
Assuming "often override his judgment" = "more times then not":
He obviously recommended WD for a reason. You choose Maxtor instead. I
take it you weighed the two based on real data. Why couldn't you do that on
your own? Hum...this seems odd to me. If I ask someone's opinion as to
what product to buy, it's because I'm lost and can't decide. I would need
help to understand the pros and cons of each. So at that point we BOTH
understand the same set of pros and cons. Why would you not swing toward
the pro "more times then not?"
It would make more sense if you were on a fine line choosing between the
two. Able to fall either way and a little push did in fact cause to you
fall. However I don't see that happening "more times then not." But then
again, I have no idea of how often you make such decisions.
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Stephan Rose
HEMI-Powered wrote:
Depends on the girlfriend. =) The right kind won't have a problem going out
to dinner on a bike. =)
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to dinner on a bike. =)
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Justin
Stephan Rose said:
That's "for sure!" I have a couple family members that don't go anywhere
unless it's on a Harley. Either individually or together on one. His is
supped up and her's isn't so he tends to get away from her
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bp
What sound card cost 800 bucks ?
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
The latter is an open invitation for the Lin-knocks kooks and isn't really a valid
option if you've invested the money you say you have in the box.
Back up your necessary files and documents, and any peripheral drivers that you
may not still have install discs for.
Reformat and re-install XP from scratch. Reload your Mobo drivers, video drivers
(drivers only), and then the sound card drivers (drivers only). Re-configure the OS
to appear and operate as it did before VISTA, before reinstalling your audio and other
software. You may have to reassociate some of your audio software file types to
the appropriate software if you configure WMP 9 before reloading your software (and
IMHO, you should tweak out the entire OS... mail, Inet, everything... before adding
back your software for peripherals, major OEM software, and finally your audio). As
long as you're on the same HD and mobo, XP should re-authorize with no problem.
Several of them... but they're generally called I/O devices rather than 'soundcards'.
I work with soundcards that require external interfacing ("break-out boxes" for the
less expensive stuff) which run in the thousands of $$.
--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
option if you've invested the money you say you have in the box.
Back up your necessary files and documents, and any peripheral drivers that you
may not still have install discs for.
Reformat and re-install XP from scratch. Reload your Mobo drivers, video drivers
(drivers only), and then the sound card drivers (drivers only). Re-configure the OS
to appear and operate as it did before VISTA, before reinstalling your audio and other
software. You may have to reassociate some of your audio software file types to
the appropriate software if you configure WMP 9 before reloading your software (and
IMHO, you should tweak out the entire OS... mail, Inet, everything... before adding
back your software for peripherals, major OEM software, and finally your audio). As
long as you're on the same HD and mobo, XP should re-authorize with no problem.
Several of them... but they're generally called I/O devices rather than 'soundcards'.
I work with soundcards that require external interfacing ("break-out boxes" for the
less expensive stuff) which run in the thousands of $$.
--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com