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Frank
Dave said:
Well it's about time for all of the after market ink/cart/paper issues
to be legally sorted out.
Be that as it may, should it become impossible to legally obtain after
market ink for any printer, I'm sure other radical changes will occur in
this market as one law suite usually begets another.
Frank
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SleeperMan
Dave said:
HA!
That's like some BMW would file a lawsuit against michelin since they also
make tyres which fit on BMW, while they originally use goodyear...
Will they also file a lawsuit against paper companies since they make paper
which fits into their printers?
Ink is consumable material. As paper. as simple as that. They even don't
have legal support for saying that "using non-epson ink will void a
warranty", while this is total bullshit.
Even if they do win, they will close down in a few months, since no-one will
then buy Epson printers. Always there will be companies which will allow
such ink as a reason that printers will sell. Even if we do believe that
they have no profit by selling printers, only ink, we do know that this is
bullshit. They don't make 100 units, but 100 millions...it's just...they
also have a profit (bigger) from selling ink. Well, it's just bussiness. If
they lower prices, people will buy epson ink. As simple as that.
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Stratman
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20060222/tc_pcworld/124814
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Presumably the President of Epson only uses the brand of petrol that was
supplied with his car.
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Presumably the President of Epson only uses the brand of petrol that was
supplied with his car.
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Burt
Dave said:
Hope this is not the way Canon will go with its new chipped cartridges.
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measekite
BUT THEY ARE EITHER WINNING ALL OF THE LAWSUITS OR THE RELABELERS ARESleeperMan said:Dave wrote:
HA!
That's like some BMW would file a lawsuit against michelin since they also
make tyres which fit on BMW, while they originally use goodyear...
Will they also file a lawsuit against paper companies since they make paper
which fits into their printers?
Ink is consumable material. As paper. as simple as that. They even don't
have legal support for saying that "using non-epson ink will void a
warranty", while this is total bullshit.
SETTLING OUT OF COURT.
MOST PEOPLE USE THE INK THAT THE PRINTER IS DESIGNED TO TAKE TO YOUEven if they do win, they will close down in a few months, since no-one will
then buy Epson printers.
POINT IS NOT VALID.
NOT ME. I WILL BUY CANON INK FOR MY CANON PRINTER AND HP INK FOR MY HPAlways there will be companies which will allow
such ink as a reason that printers will sell. Even if we do believe that
they have no profit by selling printers, only ink, we do know that this is
bullshit. They don't make 100 units, but 100 millions...it's just...they
also have a profit (bigger) from selling ink. Well, it's just bussiness. If
they lower prices, people will buy epson ink. As simple as that.
PRINTER.
M
measekite
HIS CAR WAS DESIGNED TO RUN ON A TYPE OF FUEL NOT A SPECIFIC BRAND BUTStratman said:| http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20060222/tc_pcworld/124814
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Presumably the President of Epson only uses the brand of petrol that was
supplied with his car.
EPSON PRINTERS ARE DESIGNED TO USE EPSON INK. EPSON DESIGNED IT AND
THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY. I AM SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DESIGNED.
AND YES OEM INK COSTS TOO MUCH.
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SleeperMan
measekite said:BUT THEY ARE EITHER WINNING ALL OF THE LAWSUITS OR THE RELABELERS ARE
SETTLING OUT OF COURT.
MOST PEOPLE USE THE INK THAT THE PRINTER IS DESIGNED TO TAKE TO YOU
POINT IS NOT VALID.
NOT ME. I WILL BUY CANON INK FOR MY CANON PRINTER AND HP INK FOR MY
HP PRINTER.
yeah, we know...you're one of rare...
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SleeperMan
measekite said:HIS CAR WAS DESIGNED TO RUN ON A TYPE OF FUEL NOT A SPECIFIC BRAND BUT
EPSON PRINTERS ARE DESIGNED TO USE EPSON INK.
BULLSHIT!!!
they are designed to run on ink.Either pigmented or dye one. That's it.
Similar like a car is designed to run on petrol. Not Shell or Agip petrol
but petrol, not diesel. as simple as that.
EPSON DESIGNED IT AND
another bullshit. Epson didn't design ink It has other producer who makesTHAT IS WHAT THEY SAY. I AM SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DESIGNED.
ink for Epson. And it makes it "only for Epson" while it sells same ink in
free market under another name. It's like when buying wiper for Renault
original, you get Valeo and it's original Renault. And it costs 100 units,
say. But, when you go into car parts store, you get SAME Valeo wiper for 20
units. Not similar, but SAME, just in different package. Same is with ink.
It's just too hard for you to understand or admit this. But, if you have
money, i guess i don't see the reason why not to waste it...
S
SleeperMan
Burt said:Hope this is not the way Canon will go with its new chipped
cartridges.
This new chipped cart can be refilled and when put back in, software warns
you about it and offers options to replace cart, or to use it as is -
refilled
M
measekite
THAT PROGRESSSleeperMan said:Burt wrote:
This new chipped cart can be refilled and when put back in, software warns
you about it and offers options to replace cart, or to use it as is -
refilled
M
measekite
MORE HORSESHIT!!!SleeperMan said:measekite wrote:
BULLSHIT!!!
they are designed to run on ink.Either pigmented or dye one. That's it.
Similar like a car is designed to run on petrol. Not Shell or Agip petrol
but petrol, not diesel. as simple as that.
HORSESHIT!!!
EPSON DESIGNED IT AND
another bullshit.
DO NOT CONFUSE THE ENGINEERING, FORMULATION AND DESIGN WITH THE MFG TOEpson didn't design ink It has other producer who makes
ink for Epson.
SPECIFICATIONS.
SURE AND THEY RISK LOSING THE EPSON CONTRACT, LAWSUIES AND PATENTAnd it makes it "only for Epson" while it sells same ink in
free market under another name.
VIOLATIONS SO THEY CAN SELL (RELATIVE) A FEW DROPS OF INK TO THE IDIOTS
IN THIS NG. NOW THAT IS COWSHIT
I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SLEEP AND COUNT URINE SHEEPIt's like when buying wiper for Renault
original, you get Valeo and it's original Renault. And it costs 100 units,
say. But, when you go into car parts store, you get SAME Valeo wiper for 20
units. Not similar, but SAME, just in different package. Same is with ink.
YOU MUST BE BROKE.It's just too hard for you to understand or admit this. But, if you have
money, i guess i don't see the reason why not to waste it...
M
measekite
YOU ARE RARE JUST LIKE DA BEEFERSleeperMan said:measekite wrote:
yeah, we know...you're one of rare...
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Davy
If everyone stopped buying Epson they would have to think twice, bu
doubt that would ever be the case, may lose one or two sells yeah
Coming to the stage where the ink tanks run dry you 'clod' the printe
in middle of the Pacific or right in their backyard and buy a new un
Dav
doubt that would ever be the case, may lose one or two sells yeah
Coming to the stage where the ink tanks run dry you 'clod' the printe
in middle of the Pacific or right in their backyard and buy a new un
Dav
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Frank
SleeperMan said:BULLSHIT!!!
they are designed to run on ink.Either pigmented or dye one. That's it.
Similar like a car is designed to run on petrol. Not Shell or Agip petrol
but petrol, not diesel. as simple as that.
EPSON DESIGNED IT AND
another bullshit. Epson didn't design ink It has other producer who makes
ink for Epson. And it makes it "only for Epson" while it sells same ink in
free market under another name. It's like when buying wiper for Renault
original, you get Valeo and it's original Renault. And it costs 100 units,
say. But, when you go into car parts store, you get SAME Valeo wiper for 20
units. Not similar, but SAME, just in different package. Same is with ink.
It's just too hard for you to understand or admit this. But, if you have
money, i guess i don't see the reason why not to waste it...
You're absolutely right! That simpleton moron piece of shit has no idea
who make what ink.
Frank
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Frank
Brilliant! Even an idiot like meashershithead could (well maybe) figureSleeperMan said:This new chipped cart can be refilled and when put back in, software warns
you about it and offers options to replace cart, or to use it as is -
refilled
that one out.
Frank
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rafe b
There are reputable 3rd-party vendors that
have been selling Epson-compatible carts
for years: MIS, Lyson, Mediastreet,
InkjetMall, etc.
Don't think for a moment that HP, Canon,
or Lexmark would deal any more kindly
with vendors of compatible ink carts.
For *current* HP inkjet printers, the
only carts you will find are either from
HP directly, or from recycled HP carts.
rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
M
measekite
LYSON IS A MFG FORMULATOR. THE REST ARE JUST RELABELERS WHO WILL NOTrafe said:There are reputable 3rd-party vendors that
have been selling Epson-compatible carts
for years: MIS, Lyson, Mediastreet,
InkjetMall, etc.
TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE SELLING
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Davy
When people request help in un-clogging their printers why is i
assumed the problem is third party inks
When blame can be pointed towards-: The user, the ink and th
reliability factor
But yet-
When I have had experience of Epsons clogging on the 2nd day and
replacement clogging on the 4th day with OEM ink this was assumed t
be a bad batch of printers
Let Epson bring law suites, let them overcharge for their inks, thi
sure ain't stoppin' the problem
Thank God I bought a Canon...at least I can print without having t
check for flaws and I don't get clogged, ...."Never get Clogge
with an Epson, cos it can be expensive"
Dav
assumed the problem is third party inks
When blame can be pointed towards-: The user, the ink and th
reliability factor
But yet-
When I have had experience of Epsons clogging on the 2nd day and
replacement clogging on the 4th day with OEM ink this was assumed t
be a bad batch of printers
Let Epson bring law suites, let them overcharge for their inks, thi
sure ain't stoppin' the problem
Thank God I bought a Canon...at least I can print without having t
check for flaws and I don't get clogged, ...."Never get Clogge
with an Epson, cos it can be expensive"
Dav
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Arthur Entlich
I can't argue this. I find Epson's latest projectionist approaches to
be unconscionable. They first develop cartridges with unique features
which are mainly for their own advantage to try to limit the purchase of
third party product, and to avoid refilling, and then they go and sue
companies that figure out ways to get around them.
Personally, it would give me great pause about buying a new Epson printer.
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be unconscionable. They first develop cartridges with unique features
which are mainly for their own advantage to try to limit the purchase of
third party product, and to avoid refilling, and then they go and sue
companies that figure out ways to get around them.
Personally, it would give me great pause about buying a new Epson printer.
Art