A new AntiVirus Software?

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Adam said in news:[email protected]:
ummm.... wrong product buddy they are advertising "Antivirus" not
"CyberScrub 3.5"
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They should NOT be *advertising* in the newsgroups because that is
spamming, especially when pretending to be a real user reporting the
product and then pretending to be another user commenting on it. That
is how they want to advertise, by lying and spamming newsgroups?

Cyberscrub is the company. Cyberscrub is also one of their products.
Cyberscrub Cyberscrub, now there's a stupid idea in self-titling your
product. That's why there is confusion over what product is being
discussed. When you search for and read reviews about Cyberscrub, do
they call it Cyberscrub Cyberscrub? No, just Cyberscrub (which is the
company name). When you read reviews about Norton Systemworks, Norton
AntiVirus, Symantec Ghost, Norton Personal Firewall, Powerquest
PartitionMagic, you don't run into the problem of identifying the
product from the author. Nobody reviews "Norton". The product isn't
called "Norton Norton". It is "Norton <something>". Self-titling your
product is a stupid idea. Gee, I wonder why when searching for reviews
on "Cyberscrub" that I end up reading some about their disk cleaning
product? Because they used the same name for the product as their
company name.

By the way, in my other posts, you'll notice that Cyberscrub Anti-Virus
was just released yesterday. The license signing between Kaspersky and
Cyberscrub (the company, not the product) was yesterday. So anyone,
like Nichol, claiming to have tried CyberScrub Anti-Virus is just
blowing smoke in your face. A one-day "trial" is worthless. You'd
barely get through the manual, configuration, browsing all the screens,
and learning how to use the product and obviously wouldn't know anything
about how well the product performs or protects. Oooh, I just found a
product, I managed to install it, must be good, huh, just because I
"used" it for a day? I don't see a download for a trial version of
Cyberscrub on their web site. They JUST signed the license agreement
yesterday. It might very well turn out to be a good AV product but
obviously no one can thoroughly test it inside of one day of it getting
handed down from Kaspersky to Cyberscrub. If Kaspersky continue to
charge for annual subscriptions then whatever they handed off to
Cyberscrub won't be as good as a real KAV version. Kaspersky isn't
going to shoot themself in their own foot by letting a redistributor of
their product undermine their sales. Either Kaspersky will follow suit
or something is missing from the Cyberscrub Anti-Virus product.

Since Kaspersky is licensing their libraries to Cyberscrub, what is of
interest is just what version of KAV got doled out to Cyberscrub. Was
it the Lite version, Personal version, Personal Pro version, or some
crippled and reduced feature set version of one of those? Or did
Cyberscrub only get rights to use the engine so the interface and
ultimately the effectiveness of how those KAV libraries get used is
still unknown. I don't know if Kaspersky answers questions posed by
potential customers. I've sent them an e-mail asking for them to
elucidate on what exactly they licensed *to* CyberScrub and not *for*
Cyberscrub (a barb regarding self-titled products).
 
Adam said in news:[email protected]:
From what i understand is that the product is not a Kaspersky product
it is CyberScrub's only based on the kaspersky engine. I dont see
anything on the trial version or on the website that it is a
kaspersky product that cyberscrub "stole" and just put there name on
it. So therfor there is no verion of Kaspersky that the cyberscrub
program is using. one thing that I've noticed from teh two programs
is that the ybersrub has an "Auto Update" feature that no other
Kaspersky program has nor a way to schedule scans. As for support
once again it is not a kasperkey product so i think that there
support would know how to handel problems becuase cyberscrub did
recive a 94 of of 100 Dun and Bradstreet open ratings so i dont think
they are putting them selfs in a losing position i think they do know
what they are doing.
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Well, according to the news article on Cyberscrub's web site at
http://www.cyberscrub.com/news/index.php (2nd article down), it DOES say
they signed a license agreement with Kaspersky to redistribute
*something* from Kaspersky. According to other users' posts (but not
verified by me), Kaspersky does sell off their KAV libraries to get
implemented in other-branded products, as is also evidenced by
Kaspersky's own web page at http://www.kaspersky.com/oemsuccess. Even
F-Secure, according to Kaspersky, uses the KAV engine.

In trying to capture every buck they can by spreading themself out to
any and all OEMs that want to incorporate the KAV engine in some
other-branded product, Kaspersky may very well effectively dilute their
brand recognition amongst consumers. When you have Joe Schmuck walking
out of Walmart with a product called "Defender Pro AV", how does it help
Kaspersky to dilute their reputation by repackaging KAV Lite under some
unknown brand name? Kaspersky will sell off their KAV libraries to
anyone that will buy them without regard to maintaining control over the
quality of the product in which those libraries get used. You get LOTS
of wannabe anti-virus, firewall, and security products hitching their
wagon to Kaspersky because they can claim they also use the KAV engine
but that doesn't mean they implement it as well, so other products using
those KAV libraries can royally screw up Kaspersky's image (because if
these other products perform poorly then the fault will be seen as
Kaspersky's integrated "product" not performing well as opposed to the
other vendor not implementing well the KAV libraries).

Eventually the question will be "what is KAV" since KAV will be in a
slew of non-Kaspersky brands but implemented differently in each one.
Dilute name recognition enough and eventually no one knows it anymore.
If they continue to sell off their libraries to let anyone include them
in some other-branded software, I don't see Kaspersky even bothering to
continue distributing their own end-user product. They'll be making the
big bucks supplying the code to someone else who slaps their brand on
the software, along with the potential that those other-brand
implementations may not be as good.

Listing lots of customers, including huge corporations, that use your
product is a good thing to fortify your respectability. Listing a slew
of other-brand vendors that are redistributing your product which is
outside your quality control is not a good thing for promotion. It
shows they are focused on how to produce a product they can sell to
other software publishers rather than focusing on how to produce a
product that is best for the user. I guess they have to go where the
money is.
 
Adam said:
i think they do know what they are doing.
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Not if they pay you for shilling they don't. No matter what name you
use, you still can't spell worth a damn. Your attempt at appearing to
be a poster just asking for opinions is so transparent that the most
likely reaction from most people will be to avoid "Viper-Rub" like
the snake oil it is.
 
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