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measekite
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jonsnow3000
I narrowed my choices to these two printers, the canon 5200 and the
canon 6600d. Which one is better? Any opinions?
canon 6600d. Which one is better? Any opinions?
M
measekite
THE IP6600 IS AN INK DISPENSER GEARED TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO USE A
COMPUTER TO EDIT AND PRINT PICTURES. THEY ARE BETTER OFF GOING TO
COSTCO LAB.
THE CHOICE IS BETWEEN THE IP5200 AND THE IP4200. IF YOU CARE ABOUT
SPEED THEN THE IP5200 IS THE WAY TO GO BUT IF YOU ARE AN INFREQUENT
PRINTER AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT SPEED THAN THE IP4200. THE QUALITY OF
RESULTS SHOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME.
AND BE SURE TO USE CANON INK SO YOU DO NOT CLOG THE MACHINE.
COMPUTER TO EDIT AND PRINT PICTURES. THEY ARE BETTER OFF GOING TO
COSTCO LAB.
THE CHOICE IS BETWEEN THE IP5200 AND THE IP4200. IF YOU CARE ABOUT
SPEED THEN THE IP5200 IS THE WAY TO GO BUT IF YOU ARE AN INFREQUENT
PRINTER AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT SPEED THAN THE IP4200. THE QUALITY OF
RESULTS SHOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME.
AND BE SURE TO USE CANON INK SO YOU DO NOT CLOG THE MACHINE.
Z
zakezuke
Measekite said: <Snipped per request>
A good rule of thumb is you should not listen to Measekite... at all,
esp since he clearly was not following this thread and was painfully
unaware that your application was printing your art. He also has never
even met the ip6600D, he has never owned one, nor has ever used one.
Heck I own the ip5200 and haven't really had a chance to use it yet.
His opinions, and I mean this with the upmost respect... are worth
diddly bat guano.
The best thing you can do... really... is to load up a digital camera
with images of your typical work, go into your friendly neighborhood
shop with photo paper in hand, and print off the same image on both
printers. Most will agree so long as you leave the prints there. We
can give our opnions till we are blue in the face, but that's not going
to tell you anything about how each printer renders your images. This
isn't a cop-up but rather a fact, pick the printer you think does the
best.
Technicaly speaking, the benifit the ip5200 has is printing pigmented
text, and if enjoy your images printed with raised black matte lines.
Selecting plain paper using photo paper adds a sort of 3d element to
objects with stark black lines.
If you have no need what so ever for text documents, would enjoy the
benifits of storing your edited images on memory cards for printing in
the field without a pictbridge camera, and if you don't mind the added
cost of those light inks which are used in abondance... go ip6600d.
A good rule of thumb is you should not listen to Measekite... at all,
esp since he clearly was not following this thread and was painfully
unaware that your application was printing your art. He also has never
even met the ip6600D, he has never owned one, nor has ever used one.
Heck I own the ip5200 and haven't really had a chance to use it yet.
His opinions, and I mean this with the upmost respect... are worth
diddly bat guano.
The best thing you can do... really... is to load up a digital camera
with images of your typical work, go into your friendly neighborhood
shop with photo paper in hand, and print off the same image on both
printers. Most will agree so long as you leave the prints there. We
can give our opnions till we are blue in the face, but that's not going
to tell you anything about how each printer renders your images. This
isn't a cop-up but rather a fact, pick the printer you think does the
best.
Technicaly speaking, the benifit the ip5200 has is printing pigmented
text, and if enjoy your images printed with raised black matte lines.
Selecting plain paper using photo paper adds a sort of 3d element to
objects with stark black lines.
If you have no need what so ever for text documents, would enjoy the
benifits of storing your edited images on memory cards for printing in
the field without a pictbridge camera, and if you don't mind the added
cost of those light inks which are used in abondance... go ip6600d.
E
Edwin Pawlowski
zakezuke said:If you have no need what so ever for text documents, would enjoy the
benifits of storing your edited images on memory cards for printing in
the field without a pictbridge camera, and if you don't mind the added
cost of those light inks which are used in abondance... go ip6600d.
Never used the 5200 so I cannot comment on it. I did buy a 6600 though, and
just finished printing out 300 4x6 photos. I'm very happy with it. I used
three cartridges of ink to do the printing, the other three are only about
half used.
M
measekite
THE 6600 IS FOR PEOIPLE WHO DO NOT USE A COMPUTER. THE IP5200 IS BETTEREdwin said:Never used the 5200 so I cannot comment on it. I did buy a 6600 though, and
just finished printing out 300 4x6 photos. I'm very happy with it. I used
three cartridges of ink to do the printing, the other three are only about
half used.
FOR THOSE WHO USE A PHOTO EDITOR LIKE PHOTOSHOP
J
jonsnow3000
I bought the 6600d today for 200 dollars at compusa. The 5200 model was
on sell for 140 and the hp 8250 was 80 dollars. I am very happy with my
choice after going to my local rite aid last month and almost buying
another 38 dollar tri-color ink cartridge for my hp 712c. The prints are
sharp and I can see detail like you wouldn't believe. The color is spot
on. This will very, very work well for what I do. The red lights on the
inks look like something out of Star Trek, a very cool effect. The inks
are about 14 dollars each but hold twice the ml of the 8250 which cost
9.99 each and in various ml sizes. If hp had any sense they would have
put at least 14 ml in each ink cartridge, I would have no problem buying
the hp for that alone. I heard the 8250 costs a small fortune in ink
costs and run out every 100 pages.
on sell for 140 and the hp 8250 was 80 dollars. I am very happy with my
choice after going to my local rite aid last month and almost buying
another 38 dollar tri-color ink cartridge for my hp 712c. The prints are
sharp and I can see detail like you wouldn't believe. The color is spot
on. This will very, very work well for what I do. The red lights on the
inks look like something out of Star Trek, a very cool effect. The inks
are about 14 dollars each but hold twice the ml of the 8250 which cost
9.99 each and in various ml sizes. If hp had any sense they would have
put at least 14 ml in each ink cartridge, I would have no problem buying
the hp for that alone. I heard the 8250 costs a small fortune in ink
costs and run out every 100 pages.
Z
zakezuke
If hp had any sense they would have
Hp has plenty of sense... they went through much bother and effort to
inovate a system that wastes less. While you can say this canon has
9ml and this other one has 25ml and say with some certainty that the
25ml will output the 9ml... that simply is not the case with the HP.
the 8250 is really onpar with the Canon as far as cost per page based
on the estimates they both provide, and if it wasn't for the issue with
aftermarket ink and CD printing, i'd buy the 8250 for $80 in a
heartbeat. 5ml is easily 10ml in canon terms, the ink buffer a fab
feature esp for a printer with a seperate head. Front access inks
without dealing with a the lid, ultra fabaruni.
While I lack direct experence with the 8250... I doubt it's as bad as
all that. I have to admit the sizes are wacky, but given those light
inks are used more there is every reason for them to be bigger.
c1823 is $38 for 370p. The canon for just CMY is 3x$14 for 280 pages.
The c1823 while higher cost per ml is lower per page. Sometimes those
tricolors are not a bad deal at all even taking into account your
tossing away a color.
But still... inks, money, in the end you sound like you are going to be
happy with the ip6600D. The older i960 was just fantastic, and the
current i6600D looks even more so.
put at least 14 ml in each ink cartridge, I would have no problem buying
the hp for that alone. I heard the 8250 costs a small fortune in ink
costs and run out every 100 pages.
Hp has plenty of sense... they went through much bother and effort to
inovate a system that wastes less. While you can say this canon has
9ml and this other one has 25ml and say with some certainty that the
25ml will output the 9ml... that simply is not the case with the HP.
the 8250 is really onpar with the Canon as far as cost per page based
on the estimates they both provide, and if it wasn't for the issue with
aftermarket ink and CD printing, i'd buy the 8250 for $80 in a
heartbeat. 5ml is easily 10ml in canon terms, the ink buffer a fab
feature esp for a printer with a seperate head. Front access inks
without dealing with a the lid, ultra fabaruni.
While I lack direct experence with the 8250... I doubt it's as bad as
all that. I have to admit the sizes are wacky, but given those light
inks are used more there is every reason for them to be bigger.
I am very happy with my
choice after going to my local rite aid last month and almost buying
another 38 dollar tri-color ink cartridge for my hp 712c
c1823 is $38 for 370p. The canon for just CMY is 3x$14 for 280 pages.
The c1823 while higher cost per ml is lower per page. Sometimes those
tricolors are not a bad deal at all even taking into account your
tossing away a color.
But still... inks, money, in the end you sound like you are going to be
happy with the ip6600D. The older i960 was just fantastic, and the
current i6600D looks even more so.
A
Arthur Entlich
How long do you want your images to last after they are bought?
How long do you want them to last if you are selling them in a bright
gallery, retail store or out in the sun?
Cheap often equals fugitive inks that fade. Better inks cost more
(lower fading, more accuracy, pigment colorants, etc.).
No, they do not have to be OEM inks, but they should be a reliable brand.
Art
How long do you want them to last if you are selling them in a bright
gallery, retail store or out in the sun?
Cheap often equals fugitive inks that fade. Better inks cost more
(lower fading, more accuracy, pigment colorants, etc.).
No, they do not have to be OEM inks, but they should be a reliable brand.
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
Keep one thing in mind with HP's ratings. They use dye inks which do
indeed meet those rating if (and pretty much only if) you use HP
swellable polymer paper with their inks. Otherwise the bets are pretty
much off for those numbers.
Art
indeed meet those rating if (and pretty much only if) you use HP
swellable polymer paper with their inks. Otherwise the bets are pretty
much off for those numbers.
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
Again, be careful what you read and believe.
Kodak Ultima uses swellable polymer and works well on some inks, but not
all. More importantly, check what Henry Wilhelm has to say about
Kodak's testing methods. They use very low lighting in their tests to
come up with that 100 year figure.
Art
Kodak Ultima uses swellable polymer and works well on some inks, but not
all. More importantly, check what Henry Wilhelm has to say about
Kodak's testing methods. They use very low lighting in their tests to
come up with that 100 year figure.
Art
M
measekite
jonsnow3000 said:I bought the 6600d today for 200 dollars at compusa. The 5200 model
was on sell for 140 and the hp 8250 was 80 dollars. I am very happy
with my choice
UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO MOSTLY PRINT WITHOUT USING A COMPUTER THE IP5200
WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE.
P
pecan
Arthur Entlich said:Keep one thing in mind with HP's ratings. They use dye inks which do
indeed meet those rating if (and pretty much only if) you use HP
swellable polymer paper with their inks. Otherwise the bets are pretty
much off for those numbers.
Art
I use HP ink and HP paper, but can't see if it's swellable polymer.... how
would I know?
Catherine
F
Fenrir Enterprises
I use HP ink and HP paper, but can't see if it's swellable polymer.... how
would I know?
Catherine
I believe all of the HP photo papers are swellable polymer. I know
that the Premium and Premium Plus ones definitely are.
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Edwin Pawlowski
Some of us are willing to pay the extra $50 to get versatility. Your money,measekite said:UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO MOSTLY PRINT WITHOUT USING A COMPUTER THE IP5200
WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE.
you make your choice, My money, I made mine, as did jonsnow.
B
Burt
The troll owns an ip4000 and is so in love with it that he/she doesn'tEdwin Pawlowski said:Some of us are willing to pay the extra $50 to get versatility. Your
money, you make your choice, My money, I made mine, as did jonsnow.
acknowledge the benefit of six color printers for photo printing. Typical
response on MK's part is to criticize someone's purchase after the fact
based on his meager experience of owning this one inkjet printer. I have
two i960 printers and really like the photo print quality. The positive on
the six color Canon printer is more subtle shading due to the reduced
dye-load inks. The downside is that it literally drinks the reduced
dye-load inks.
M
measekite
THERE REALLY IS NO VERSATILITY UNLESS YOU WANT TO PRINT WITHOUT USING AEdwin said:Some of us are willing to pay the extra $50 to get versatility. Your money,
you make your choice, My money, I made mine, as did jonsnow.
COMPUTER. IFNOT YOU DO NOT NEED THE TINY LCD. THE EXTRA MONEY WILL BUY
YOU AN ADDITIONALO SET OF CARTS.
Z
zakezuke
Burt said:The troll owns an ip4000 and is so in love with it that he/she doesn't
acknowledge the benefit of six color printers for photo printing. Typical
response on MK's part is to criticize someone's purchase after the fact
based on his meager experience of owning this one inkjet printer. I have
two i960 printers and really like the photo print quality. The positive on
the six color Canon printer is more subtle shading due to the reduced
dye-load inks. The downside is that it literally drinks the reduced
dye-load inks.
Yes, the spiffy screen is beside the point. In the past there were D
models offered for the photo printers, and screenless ones. Now there
is no choice.. at least in North America. Japan is another story, you
have your choice between the 6600D for ï¿¥27,900 ($236.00) or the
ip7500 for ï¿¥23,800.(US$202.08) I.e. the screenless model with the
extra black sells for less and offers an option for users who otherwise
would pick the ip4200/5200 for a general purpose printer.
But I would agree it's the user's choice. A printer is a tool... and
every tool user has their own preference. I would not criticize this
person's choice as their power application is printing photos. The
pigment black offers no real benifit... except for oddballs like me who
want stark lines matte on cartoony work.