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measekite
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David Chien
My own preferences:
1) Canon MP7xx series. We've got several here at work - they're very
quiet, super-fast even at photo printing, setup easy and work great, and
have dirt-cheap ink cartridges (vs. much more expensive HP & Epson
cartridges). Highly recommended! MP760/780 are good ones to look at first.
2) Epson RX500 or higher series. Slower than the Canon, but they do a
superb job as well as the Canon for direct photo prints and the
auto-adjusted photo print quality. Has a nice feature the Canon doesn't
have - you can scan directly to any flash memory card! w/o a PC
attached! This means you can make scans of photos, text, magazines,
etc. right into your CF/XD/MS/SD/ETC card very conveniently.
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Other than that, keep in mind that printers can go dirt-cheap, esp. for
last year's model just clearing out (eg. Epson RX500 - got mine for
<$130 on clearance, you can buy a nice refurb directly from epson today
with full 1 year warranty at $129! in their clearance store:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/...hljcgemcfjgdfljdfok.0&cookies=no&oid=45471986
), and they still perform well.
www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ -> for the many threads on hot printer deals.
Also, keep in mind that if you don't go for an all-in-one (and buy a
cheap Inkjet only, or a last-year's all-in-one), you can easily spend
$200 and get both a nice cheap Samsung/Brother laser printer on sale +
an inkjet printer of some sort at today's sale prices!
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I personally would avoid HP printers due to the high cartridge costs.
The printer companies are all getting their $$$$ from the inks, not the
printers nowadays, but that new HP all in one with a big 3.6" or 3.7"
LCD screen is a good start to look at if you have $399 - fast, excellent
photo prints, and works well.
1) Canon MP7xx series. We've got several here at work - they're very
quiet, super-fast even at photo printing, setup easy and work great, and
have dirt-cheap ink cartridges (vs. much more expensive HP & Epson
cartridges). Highly recommended! MP760/780 are good ones to look at first.
2) Epson RX500 or higher series. Slower than the Canon, but they do a
superb job as well as the Canon for direct photo prints and the
auto-adjusted photo print quality. Has a nice feature the Canon doesn't
have - you can scan directly to any flash memory card! w/o a PC
attached! This means you can make scans of photos, text, magazines,
etc. right into your CF/XD/MS/SD/ETC card very conveniently.
---
Other than that, keep in mind that printers can go dirt-cheap, esp. for
last year's model just clearing out (eg. Epson RX500 - got mine for
<$130 on clearance, you can buy a nice refurb directly from epson today
with full 1 year warranty at $129! in their clearance store:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/...hljcgemcfjgdfljdfok.0&cookies=no&oid=45471986
), and they still perform well.
www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ -> for the many threads on hot printer deals.
Also, keep in mind that if you don't go for an all-in-one (and buy a
cheap Inkjet only, or a last-year's all-in-one), you can easily spend
$200 and get both a nice cheap Samsung/Brother laser printer on sale +
an inkjet printer of some sort at today's sale prices!
---
I personally would avoid HP printers due to the high cartridge costs.
The printer companies are all getting their $$$$ from the inks, not the
printers nowadays, but that new HP all in one with a big 3.6" or 3.7"
LCD screen is a good start to look at if you have $399 - fast, excellent
photo prints, and works well.
M
measekite
David said:My own preferences:
1) Canon MP7xx series. We've got several here at work - they're very
quiet, super-fast even at photo printing, setup easy and work great,
and have
I WOULD SAY THAT CANON CARTS ARE NOT DIRT CHEAP
A
aprestn5
Gary said:Its not that simple, or complicated.
First of, yes the hardware is capable of CD printing. The "software" in
the printer is set to not enable the driver to print to CD. You diddle
with the eeprom settings using the diagnostic mode to "regionlize" it
for a region where CD and Letter printing is allowed, so the driver will
enabld CD printing.
From what I've read the setting that disables the CD printing function
occurs if you install the Windows ( and/or presumably the Mac) driver and
answer the question about where you live with a response of any of the
Americas.
Z
zakezuke
From what I've read the setting that disables the CD printing function
Not true... firstly the printer's "destination" is stored in the
printer's EEprom which can be set via servicemode through the front
panel. It has NOTHING to do with where you say you live nor what
region setting your computer is set to.
1. Driver asks printer if it supports CD printing
If YES this info is stored in the registry
If NO this info is stored in the registry
2. Driver checks registry for this value
If YES you are given the option to print on CDs
If NO you are not even given the option
3. Printer checks it self if it supports this feature
If YES it prints a CD
If NO it says close inner cover 1.
I.e. you can order a printer from the UK, plug it in, and it will print
on CDs no problem.
Mac is a little different, but not by much. There is no registry and
some users say enabling the feature on the printer causes the option to
be displayed in the driver where others say they must install the
driver again for the option to apear. On this level I can't say as I
don't own a mac, but PC I can tell you without a doubt that regardless
of which it's up to the printer to have this feature if enabled, and
the driver asks the printer not you what destination the printer was
set for.
occurs if you install the Windows ( and/or presumably the Mac) driver and
answer the question about where you live with a response of any of the
Americas.
Not true... firstly the printer's "destination" is stored in the
printer's EEprom which can be set via servicemode through the front
panel. It has NOTHING to do with where you say you live nor what
region setting your computer is set to.
1. Driver asks printer if it supports CD printing
If YES this info is stored in the registry
If NO this info is stored in the registry
2. Driver checks registry for this value
If YES you are given the option to print on CDs
If NO you are not even given the option
3. Printer checks it self if it supports this feature
If YES it prints a CD
If NO it says close inner cover 1.
I.e. you can order a printer from the UK, plug it in, and it will print
on CDs no problem.
Mac is a little different, but not by much. There is no registry and
some users say enabling the feature on the printer causes the option to
be displayed in the driver where others say they must install the
driver again for the option to apear. On this level I can't say as I
don't own a mac, but PC I can tell you without a doubt that regardless
of which it's up to the printer to have this feature if enabled, and
the driver asks the printer not you what destination the printer was
set for.
G
Gary Tait
aprestn5 said:From what I've read the setting that disables the CD printing function
occurs if you install the Windows ( and/or presumably the Mac) driver and
answer the question about where you live with a response of any of the
Americas.
That is kinda incorrect. There is a region setting in the printer's eeprom.
There is a service coded to adjust that.
M
Mapanari
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
You need to learn how to read, boy.
I said "bang for the buck".
The 4000 is more expensive with no diference in engine or real printing
capability.
If you're a moron who needs all those bells and non needed whistles, then
buy it.
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You need to learn how to read, boy.
I said "bang for the buck".
The 4000 is more expensive with no diference in engine or real printing
capability.
If you're a moron who needs all those bells and non needed whistles, then
buy it.
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M
Mapanari
aprestn5 said:Not necessarily; With both iP3000 and iP4000 being shifted to clearance
bins, sometimes shopping around pays off. Last week, I saw a local office
supplies store, not usually noted for low prices, clearing out iP4000s at
50% off their regular price - $10 *less* than I'd seen any iP3000s going
for hereabouts. I went back to the store just in time to get their last
one. Now to track down (or make) a CD tray......
You and 20,000 other interested Americans, ****ed over by Philips.
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M
Mapanari
Gary Tait <[email protected]>
wrote
I've looked all over the world for a tray, and haven't been able to find
it.
So, if it's that simple, tell me where I can get a tray?
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wrote
First of, yes the hardware is capable of CD printing. The "software" in
the printer is set to not enable the driver to print to CD. You diddle
with the eeprom settings using the diagnostic mode to "regionlize" it
for a region where CD and Letter printing is allowed, so the driver will
enabld CD printing.
On the x000 printers, the non-CD cover plate is there, which can be
removed for CD printing, and if desired, replaced by the proper CD Tray
inlet assembly. The new Pixmas have the tray inlet rollers in the US
model, so it simply is a matter of the eeprom and gett ing a tray.
I think all the Pixma line, particularily the 3000 to 6000, and their
x100/x200 counter parts as well.
I've looked all over the world for a tray, and haven't been able to find
it.
So, if it's that simple, tell me where I can get a tray?
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Z
zakezuke
I've looked all over the world for a tray, and haven't been able to find
E-bay... search for canon cd tray. Also hit this forum
http://fiveeasysteps.proboards2.com/
People outside America, including Canada it seems, and hit their
friendly neighborhood canon website, and look for authorized repair
centers, and ask for tray type B, C, or D depending on model. They are
cheap enough that one can make a few bucks buying a few and selling
them on e-bay at 100% profit.
Tray type B is for the older IP pixmas, ip3000/4000/5000, and the MP
pixmas mp750/760/780
Tray type C is for the newer IP pixmas, while tray B will work, it's a
touch thick
Tray type D is for the newer mp pixmas. Tray B is reported to not
work.
Alternativly you can hack an epson tray, or make one out of cardboard,
plastic, whatever. Odds are i'll have some surplus cardboard ones by
the end of the week.
it.
So, if it's that simple, tell me where I can get a tray?
E-bay... search for canon cd tray. Also hit this forum
http://fiveeasysteps.proboards2.com/
People outside America, including Canada it seems, and hit their
friendly neighborhood canon website, and look for authorized repair
centers, and ask for tray type B, C, or D depending on model. They are
cheap enough that one can make a few bucks buying a few and selling
them on e-bay at 100% profit.
Tray type B is for the older IP pixmas, ip3000/4000/5000, and the MP
pixmas mp750/760/780
Tray type C is for the newer IP pixmas, while tray B will work, it's a
touch thick
Tray type D is for the newer mp pixmas. Tray B is reported to not
work.
Alternativly you can hack an epson tray, or make one out of cardboard,
plastic, whatever. Odds are i'll have some surplus cardboard ones by
the end of the week.
Z
zakezuke
You need to learn how to read, boy.
Agreed... it's rare that I notice a print that looks better on my mp760
than my ip3000, and even then it's really about the paper. Given the
fact that the dye black is used only when black = 80% or higher there
are times, most of the time it seems, where it's not even used. The
dye black on my mp760 gets used at a ratio of there and abouts of 4
color cartridge changes to one black change.
I will agree matte paper looks better on the mp760 for black, unless I
set the ip3000 for plain paper mode.
But this is all very academic.... last year you had a choice between
the ip3000 for $45 after the nifty rebate, or the ip4000 for $85 after
nifty rebate. Those who bought and got the ip3000 rebate paid for
basicly the ink plus a few bucks. OEM users who bought the ip3000 and
then bought the ip4000 lost squat. The ip4000 was almost always more
than the ink it came with.
I said "bang for the buck".
The 4000 is more expensive with no diference in engine or real printing
capability.
Agreed... it's rare that I notice a print that looks better on my mp760
than my ip3000, and even then it's really about the paper. Given the
fact that the dye black is used only when black = 80% or higher there
are times, most of the time it seems, where it's not even used. The
dye black on my mp760 gets used at a ratio of there and abouts of 4
color cartridge changes to one black change.
I will agree matte paper looks better on the mp760 for black, unless I
set the ip3000 for plain paper mode.
But this is all very academic.... last year you had a choice between
the ip3000 for $45 after the nifty rebate, or the ip4000 for $85 after
nifty rebate. Those who bought and got the ip3000 rebate paid for
basicly the ink plus a few bucks. OEM users who bought the ip3000 and
then bought the ip4000 lost squat. The ip4000 was almost always more
than the ink it came with.
M
measekite
I DO NOT THINK YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A BANGMapanari said:@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
You need to learn how to read, boy.
I said "bang for the buck".
YOU ARE NUTSThe 4000 is more expensive with no diference in engine or real printing
capability.
NO BELLS AND NO WHITLES JUST BETTER RESULTS. YOU ARE AN IDIOTIf you're a moron who needs all those bells and non needed whistles, then
buy it.
Z
zakezuke
Measkekite said <the ip4000 has better results than the ip3000>
<paraphrasing mine>
Actually owning both, I can say I can hardly ever tell the difference
between the two. The only times where there would even be a
differences are cases where the black used in the photo is 80% or
higher... and even in those rare cases it's hard to tell them apart.
There "may" or "may not" be an improvement in duplex mode, but as we
all pointed out in the past there is an improvement using Microsoft's
Manual Duplex feature from the print dialog box.
Ths is what Measekite can not grasp... there are features in the
printer he loves which other people simply do not use. This does not
make them stupid, or nuts. People have different tastes. For photos,
on kirkland paper, you can hardly "ever" tell the difference, and this
includes the fact my ip3000 is on aftermarket ink and the mp760 is on
OEM.
But this is all somewhat nuts as these printers are not sold on the new
front anymore.
<paraphrasing mine>
Actually owning both, I can say I can hardly ever tell the difference
between the two. The only times where there would even be a
differences are cases where the black used in the photo is 80% or
higher... and even in those rare cases it's hard to tell them apart.
There "may" or "may not" be an improvement in duplex mode, but as we
all pointed out in the past there is an improvement using Microsoft's
Manual Duplex feature from the print dialog box.
Ths is what Measekite can not grasp... there are features in the
printer he loves which other people simply do not use. This does not
make them stupid, or nuts. People have different tastes. For photos,
on kirkland paper, you can hardly "ever" tell the difference, and this
includes the fact my ip3000 is on aftermarket ink and the mp760 is on
OEM.
But this is all somewhat nuts as these printers are not sold on the new
front anymore.
M
Mapanari
Measkekite said <the ip4000 has better results than the ip3000>
<paraphrasing mine>
Actually owning both, I can say I can hardly ever tell the difference
between the two. The only times where there would even be a
differences are cases where the black used in the photo is 80% or
higher... and even in those rare cases it's hard to tell them apart.
There "may" or "may not" be an improvement in duplex mode, but as we
all pointed out in the past there is an improvement using Microsoft's
Manual Duplex feature from the print dialog box.
Ths is what Measekite can not grasp... there are features in the
printer he loves which other people simply do not use. This does not
make them stupid, or nuts. People have different tastes. For photos,
on kirkland paper, you can hardly "ever" tell the difference, and this
includes the fact my ip3000 is on aftermarket ink and the mp760 is on
OEM.
But this is all somewhat nuts as these printers are not sold on the new
front anymore.
M is just a rabble rouser. If you said the moon is full tonight, he'd say
you're nuts, that Venus ascending is brighter, and bigger and a much better
planatary body to **** on anyway, inbetween taking thorazine shots and
lifting the skirts of annoyed low paid ward staff girls.
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M
Mapanari
E-bay... search for canon cd tray. Also hit this forum
http://fiveeasysteps.proboards2.com/
People outside America, including Canada it seems, and hit their
friendly neighborhood canon website, and look for authorized repair
centers, and ask for tray type B, C, or D depending on model. They are
cheap enough that one can make a few bucks buying a few and selling
them on e-bay at 100% profit.
Tray type B is for the older IP pixmas, ip3000/4000/5000, and the MP
pixmas mp750/760/780
Tray type C is for the newer IP pixmas, while tray B will work, it's a
touch thick
Tray type D is for the newer mp pixmas. Tray B is reported to not
work.
Alternativly you can hack an epson tray, or make one out of cardboard,
plastic, whatever. Odds are i'll have some surplus cardboard ones by
the end of the week.
Thanks, that was great advice.
But, how do you tell if you have an "older" iP3000 or a newer one?
Mine is about 8 months old by now, and they're not even selling them
anymore.
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M
measekite
JUST LIKE I THOUGHT MOST OF THE POSTERS ARE HACKERS.Mapanari said:@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
THAT IS EASY. JUST LOOK AT THE DATE OF PURCHASE ON THE SALES RECEIPT.Thanks, that was great advice.
But, how do you tell if you have an "older" iP3000 or a newer one?
M
measekite
WHEN YOU ARE IN THE SHADOWS THE EXTRA DEEP BLACK INCREASES THE CONTRASTMapanari said:@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
OF THE ENTIRE PHOTO.
NOT FOR ME
THERE IS NO MANUAL DUPLEX. ALL THAT IS IS A SAYING TO MEAN YOU TURN THE
PAPER OVER TO PRINT THE OTHER SIDE.
I THINKSO
YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR PRINTER IS ON BECUASE THEY WILL NOT TELL YOU
DO YOU LIKE THATM is just a rabble rouser. If you said the moon is full tonight, he'd say
you're nuts, that Venus ascending is brighter, and bigger and a much better
planatary body to **** on anyway, inbetween taking thorazine shots and
lifting the skirts
F
Frank
Mapanari wrote:
idiot.
And oh yeah, he's probably a psychotic loser and (probably) a fat
drunken old fool.
Frank
Meashershithead is a brainless piece of shit. He's also a moron ****witM is just a rabble rouser. If you said the moon is full tonight, he'd say
you're nuts, that Venus ascending is brighter, and bigger and a much better
planatary body to **** on anyway, inbetween taking thorazine shots and
lifting the skirts of annoyed low paid ward staff girls.
idiot.
And oh yeah, he's probably a psychotic loser and (probably) a fat
drunken old fool.
Frank
Z
zakezuke
Thanks, that was great advice.
I'll B more clear.
If you have an ip3000, ip4000, ip5000,ip6000D, ip8500, mp750, mp760,
mp780 you take tray type B. You have an ip3000, you take tray type B.
Tray B is the one you want.
Newer pixmas, the ip4200 and the like, those would take Tray C, the
newer multi fuctions would take D, but the numbers I listed in the
prior paragraph, all take B.
Odds are tray C and tray D will work dandy, from my understanding the
reflectors are in the same location, and also from my understanding
they are like .3mm thinner, but I don't know for a fact.... I know B
works. I've met B, I own two Bs, B works.
As for whether you have an older pixma or a newer one, you can always
print off a rom diagonstic, which are included in the instructions on
how to test the tray. It will tell you rom revision. But that is
beside the point. "B". It be the most popular, it'll be about $20 to
$30 bucks.
But, how do you tell if you have an "older" iP3000 or a newer one?
I'll B more clear.
If you have an ip3000, ip4000, ip5000,ip6000D, ip8500, mp750, mp760,
mp780 you take tray type B. You have an ip3000, you take tray type B.
Tray B is the one you want.
Newer pixmas, the ip4200 and the like, those would take Tray C, the
newer multi fuctions would take D, but the numbers I listed in the
prior paragraph, all take B.
Odds are tray C and tray D will work dandy, from my understanding the
reflectors are in the same location, and also from my understanding
they are like .3mm thinner, but I don't know for a fact.... I know B
works. I've met B, I own two Bs, B works.
As for whether you have an older pixma or a newer one, you can always
print off a rom diagonstic, which are included in the instructions on
how to test the tray. It will tell you rom revision. But that is
beside the point. "B". It be the most popular, it'll be about $20 to
$30 bucks.
M
Mapanari
I'll B more clear.
If you have an ip3000, ip4000, ip5000,ip6000D, ip8500, mp750, mp760,
mp780 you take tray type B. You have an ip3000, you take tray type B.
Tray B is the one you want.
Newer pixmas, the ip4200 and the like, those would take Tray C, the
newer multi fuctions would take D, but the numbers I listed in the
prior paragraph, all take B.
Odds are tray C and tray D will work dandy, from my understanding the
reflectors are in the same location, and also from my understanding
they are like .3mm thinner, but I don't know for a fact.... I know B
works. I've met B, I own two Bs, B works.
As for whether you have an older pixma or a newer one, you can always
print off a rom diagonstic, which are included in the instructions on
how to test the tray. It will tell you rom revision. But that is
beside the point. "B". It be the most popular, it'll be about $20 to
$30 bucks.
Thanks.
I've seen them today on Ebay for about $17 plus S n H.
I think I'll get one.
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