10 Things I Hate About Vista

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Possibly. But there's so much of that in the Vista groups - much MORE
than I can ever remember in the XP groups - that I've taken a
knee-jerk reaction stance on the matter.

In all my years online (coming up on 18), I've never had a killfile as
large as I do now - either by subject or by author.
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So what you're really saying for 18 years you still haven't learned
how to exercise self-control and simply skip over posters and topics
that bug you. Oh, I understand perfectly. Lots of dopes here that have
that same handicap.

Hint: Real men don't need a killfile. Talk about having a crutch.

I equate people that use killfiles with the morbidly obese that have a
stomach stapling procedure because they can't stop shoveling excessive
amounts of food in their mouth even though they know doing so is
killing them. People that rely on killfiles are admitting that have no
self-control or willpower either.
 
Moonlight said:
Top 15 things I hate about Vista

1 - My printer was not supported, even though it came with my PC, when I
bought it. So I had to download a vista compatible driver, & now the
printer
may or may not work, when you need it. Same my scanner & tablet. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

2 - It keeps giving dialog boxes that says "USB device not recognized"
even
though my printer, tablet, ect. has been loaded with the correct drivers,
that I had to download, because they didn't come with the devices. It also
occasionally says the device "is not" installed, when it decides to work,
& I
can go open then the printers/other devices folder & it is there. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP. (This
is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

4 - When I connect my digital camera, or music player, Vista
automatically
opens a folder & starts downloading everything that's on them, even when I
don't want it too. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

5 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
message again" (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

6 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
idle. WHY?

7 - Whenever I go to troubleshoot why a device or program isn't wanting to
work, it says it's "working properly" according to device manager, but
they
don't
work at all or might work 5 minutes later & it seems to "pick" what
program
it wants to work with. (I. E. If it works it might work with word pad 1
minute then 5 minutes later it might not & work with notepad then) (This
is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up! (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
solutions to fix them. (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

10 - I can't open more than one window/tab/ect. on my browsers or
messenger
without them closing or messing up. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING &
ANNOYING!)

11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
driver
failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
When
the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible. (This is EXTREMELY
ANNOYING! Because when the monitor comes back on I most likly have a
messed
up art piece or document!)

12 - It puts downloads & scanned things into whatever folder it wants to,
even though, I've set the folders that I want them to go to. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING! Because then I have to search for them!)

13 - It may or may not, run games, art programs, ect. when you need them
to,
or they might not work properly, even though they are Vista compatible.
(This
is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

14 - It's hard to find compatible security, other softwares, games, or
devices that are deemed "compatible" with Vista. (This is EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATING!)

15 - It may or may not read burned CDs, USB, devices, or flash drives.
with
files, music, photos, ect. saved on older windows versions. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

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The bad thing is, in 2007 "ALL NEW PCS, MACS, ect." comes with some form
of
Vista on them & I was unfortunate enough to have to get 1 new PC at that
time. I had to have a new PC, I was missing out on a lot of waiting art
projects.

MS if you read this, VISTA SUCKS! You should send out XP on ALL new PCs,
MACS, ect. with the option of an upgrade to Vista. Not just put it on
there &
expect it to work right & people love it! It's so full of glitches, &
messes
up hardware, software, ect.
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So you're stupid. What else is new.
 
Can't handle the load? Just swallow you turd gurgler
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You must be related to potty mouth Frank. Same vulgar kid's stuff.
That suggests you don't have the intelligence to make a rebuttal.
Frank never does either. <snicker>
 
Gordon said:
My eight-year old printer works fine after installing the Vista driver - did
you research this before you bought Vista?

Did you research the hardware compatibility first?
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Would you like to re-post from your original, where you actually asked for
HELP on a SPECIFIC problem, rather than just a general rant? Because I
didn't see any specific questions at ALL.
 
Would you like to re-post from your original, where you actually asked for
HELP on a SPECIFIC problem, rather than just a general rant? Because I
didn't see any specific questions at ALL.
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Here's what I see:

Another fanboy whining like a little girl about things someone pointed
out about Vista.
 
Robert Barnett said:
Here are my top 10 hates...

1. Windows Vista Then dump it!
2. UAC
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Protects from malware being installed without your knowledge. How many times
a day does this annoyance bother you. I may see it once a week. Big Deal!
3. Can't undock start bar tool bars like Quick Launch.
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Sure you can. Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on the
Toolbars tab. Uncheck Quick Launch
4. Insists on showing media related columns in Details views in dialog
boxes and Windows Explorer even after choosing a different view and
telling Windows to use that from now on.
5. The new programs group listing on the start menu. XP was way better and
more attractive.
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You can change it! Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on
the Start Menu tab, check in front of Classic Start menu. Other options are
available in Customize.
6. The extra stuff you were supposed to get with Vista Ultimate turned out
to be a joke and a major rip-off. Support for other languages is not a
good bonus feature.
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Obviously you haven't used the system enough to appreciate the many
funcations.
7. Vista still doesn't write data to hard drives in a non-fragmented way.
The disk defragmenter utility is now even lamer than before and just as
slow.
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The disk defragmenter runs in the background and is never noticed.
Obviously you don't have it set to do that.
8. The disk management tool for partitioning and formatting hard drives is
really poor and doesn't proved feedback on how far along in the format
process you are.
9. Internet Explorer 7 is total animal droppings.
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IE7 was on XP also, or didn't you notice. You might try Netscape, Opera,
Firefox, Avant, Flock or even Apple Safari for Windows.
10. UAC
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I believe this is a duplicate of #2 in this meaningless rant.
 
Moonlight said:
3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP.
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This seems like some extremely bogus networking drivers on your system.
8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!
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You would either want to get a Vista-compatible version of that application
or disable that application. You could potentially turn off UAC to work
around this too, but -- that startup program needing administrative
privileges is a little unusual.
9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
solutions to fix them.
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This is the reason I responded -- *what* exact program error messages--
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
-- according to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel?

I might be able to provide some more guidance on those, since some crashes
are pretty straight-forward....
11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
driver
failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
When
the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible.
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Up to date from the vendor's web site or from Windows Update? Windows
Update typically has at least kernel-level working drivers (shouldn't blue
screen), but if the vendor has user-level issues/errors, those might be
fixed in an update on the vendor's site. If not, that potentially sounds
like bogus hardware.

-Zach
 
zachd said:
This seems like some extremely bogus networking drivers on your system.

This issue doesn't bother me as much as some of the others now.


You would either want to get a Vista-compatible version of that application
or disable that application. You could potentially turn off UAC to work
around this too, but -- that startup program needing administrative
privileges is a little unusual.

I'm not sure on how to do that? Or what startup programs are involved.


This is the reason I responded -- *what* exact program error messages--
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
-- according to the Problem Reports and Solutions Center control panel?

I might be able to provide some more guidance on those, since some crashes
are pretty straight-forward....

Some of the messages I get are after I try to use hardware that doesn't want to work or after programs shut down for no reason.

I click "send report" button, but, then it says "can not be sent"


It supposedly is Vista compatable, as for the vender, It's an HP montieor vp15, & a compaq desktop SR5030NX, & an HP printer A Deskjet F380 All-In-One. (This is the device I need to be working the most! THat & the montior bugs me the most. Out of all the glitches.)

Up to date from the vendor's web site or from Windows Update? Windows
Update typically has at least kernel-level working drivers (shouldn't blue
screen), but if the vendor has user-level issues/errors, those might be
fixed in an update on the vendor's site. If not, that potentially sounds
like bogus hardware.

-Zach
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I'm not sure if this is enough info, but, I hope some of it helps?
 
I think I'm going to just go buy XP & drop Vista. Because it's take me 2 days
or more to downloaded patches & drivers. I know my printer's driver takes 24
hours, because this would be the 3 rd time I've had to redownload it, & Vista
will not let me delete or uninstall the printer before reinstalling it.
 

It definitely bothers me, though. That's a component not performing well,
and any failure really doesn't fly - and potentially contributes to other
issues. =\

You can click on that tool that's alerting you to this in order to get that
list. =)

That's fascinating and may be part of other problems.

The data by itself from that control panel would still be illuminative
regardless. =\
It supposedly is Vista compatable, as for the vender, It's an HP montieor
vp15, & a compaq desktop SR5030NX, & an HP printer A Deskjet
F380 All-In-One. (This is the device I need to be working the most!
THat & the montior bugs me the most. Out of all the glitches.)
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I can definitely understand that - the last one I would know nothing about,
but HP support would probably be most effective on.

I saw the other post - it looks like your hardware has some subpar drivers,
and I hope that your change gets those working again. The crash data would
be interesting regardless, but I would suspect it would point to some
outdated or broken driver upon your system. I don't know how your printer's
driver takes 24 hours to download, but that sounds pretty stunning to me. I
generally make sure to build an "Install Packages" folder that I download
all the things I need to update on my system so I'm sure they're available
later without redownload. But if you've already been redownloading the
driver, that sounds like you're banging your head against the wall and that
you're running into a bug that would not be resolved by reinstalling
repeatedly. That's the time at which you need to use actual customer
support, as self-service really hasn't been getting you very far. =\

-Zach
 
As for...
5. The new programs group listing on the start menu. XP was way better and
more attractive.
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You can change it! Right-click on the tool bar, choose Properties, click on
the Start Menu tab, check in front of Classic Start menu. Other options are
available in Customize.


Unfortunately, that is the pre-xp interface which is just ugly. Why on earth
they didn't do the XP look instead is just another indication that Microsoft
has no clue.

As for my "meaningless rant" this entire thread is a meaningless rant. There
is a lot to rant about when it comes to Vista. If you can't see then they
pull your meaningless head out of your meaningless ass.

Robert
 
As for my "meaningless rant" this entire thread is a meaningless rant. There
is a lot to rant about when it comes to Vista. If you can't see then
pull your meaningless head out of your meaningless ass.
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Good advice, but fanboys never listen. <snicker>
 
Adam Albright said:
Good advice, but fanboys never listen. <snicker>
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Nor acknowledge Vista's obvious defects in network and disk (lack of) speed.
Which is a fact. Sort of reminds me of the first episode of Star Trek.
Where they had never seen a human before, so they put her back together the
best they could. Vista is like this. Untrained new people developed Vista,
or so it seems.

Fanboys, well they are pied piper sheep. Let them follow M$ into a third
rate bit player. Will take years to happen, but it is now swinging in that
direction unless M$ can fix their attitude and broken Vista OS.
 
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