Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu: run w/o fan mate 1?

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Peter Wagner

Hi

It's allowed to run the Zalman CNPS7000A-AlC w/o fan mate 1 connected?
Or will the fan to be damaged, because the max. output from the fan mate is
11V but is the fan a 12 V model?

TIA
p
 
I think it is no problem but you cannot adjust te fan speed anymore and that
what is al about. Low fan speed > Low noise...
 
Peter Wagner said:
Hi

It's allowed to run the Zalman CNPS7000A-AlC w/o fan mate 1 connected?
Or will the fan to be damaged, because the max. output from the fan mate is
11V but is the fan a 12 V model?

TIA
p
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Shouldn't be a problem at all. I have nearly the same cooler (except mine
being the copper one) and didn't even bother installing the fan mate. Like
Driekes stated you won't be able to control the fan speed but if it's
important to you, depending on what type of MB you have you can use q-fan or
some other setting in the bios to control fan speed.
 
"Peter Wagner" said:
Hi

It's allowed to run the Zalman CNPS7000A-AlC w/o fan mate 1 connected?
Or will the fan to be damaged, because the max. output from the fan mate is
11V but is the fan a 12 V model?

TIA
p
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I run mine direct from the CPU header, so it runs at 12V. I keep
Q-fan disabled.

In the manual for the "B" version, it says:

http://zalman.co.kr/Upload/product/CNPS7000B_eng.PDF

"Fan speed of 2500 RPM can be obtained by directly connecting 3 pin
fan connector to motherboard. (Without Fan Controller)"

HTH,
Paul
 
ftran999 said:
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Thanks for your answer.
Shouldn't be a problem at all. I have nearly the same cooler (except
mine being the copper one) and didn't even bother installing the fan
mate. Like Driekes stated you won't be able to control the fan speed
but if it's important to you, depending on what type of MB you have
you can use q-fan or some other setting in the bios to control fan
speed.
Click to expand...

Yes, I've q-fan as BIOS option.
I'll try it to see how quiet it's with q-fan.

p
 
Driekes said:
I think it is no problem but you cannot adjust te fan speed anymore
and that what is al about. Low fan speed > Low noise...
Click to expand...

I'll try the BIOS possibility q-fan.

p
 
Paul wrote:

Thank your for your answer.
I run mine direct from the CPU header, so it runs at 12V. I keep
Q-fan disabled.
Click to expand...

I'll try how Q-fan works w/o fan mate 1.
Fan mate 1 annihilates only power (a heater), Q-fan is probably more
'intelligent'.
In the manual for the "B" version, it says:

http://zalman.co.kr/Upload/product/CNPS7000B_eng.PDF

"Fan speed of 2500 RPM can be obtained by directly connecting 3 pin
fan connector to motherboard. (Without Fan Controller)"
Click to expand...

Thanks for the link.
I hope the fan motor is the same as in the A version.
HTH,
Paul
Click to expand...

p
 
Peter said:
Paul wrote:
Click to expand...
I'll try how Q-fan works w/o fan mate 1.
Fan mate 1 annihilates only power (a heater), Q-fan is probably more
'intelligent'.
Click to expand...

It isn't. :-(
The minimal RPM with Q-fan is about 2150 RPM and at higher temperatures the
RPM won't go faster. :-(
I've reinstalled the fan mate 1 and adjusted to about 1600 RPM.

Yes, it works.
No damage.

p
 
I'll try how Q-fan works w/o fan mate 1.
It isn't. :-(
The minimal RPM with Q-fan is about 2150 RPM and at higher temperatures the
RPM won't go faster. :-(
I've reinstalled the fan mate 1 and adjusted to about 1600 RPM.
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The graph on the Asus site (don't recall the URL) showed that the QFan
didn't even kick in until the CPU hit 60'C! That's a bit much for me. I'd
rather it kick in a lot lower and ramp up more gradually.

Qfan set at 11/16 and using the FanMate at low the CPU is currently at 33'C
(case 32'C) at 1500rpm. CPU is 2.6Ghz (800) clocked just over 3.1Ghz.

.... time let Hoyle idle for a while and see how hot it gets.
 
The graph on the Asus site (don't recall the URL) showed that the QFan
didn't even kick in until the CPU hit 60'C! That's a bit much for me. I'd
rather it kick in a lot lower and ramp up more gradually.

Qfan set at 11/16 and using the FanMate at low the CPU is currently at 33'C
(case 32'C) at 1500rpm. CPU is 2.6Ghz (800) clocked just over 3.1Ghz.

... time let Hoyle idle for a while and see how hot it gets.
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After 10 minutes CPU wouldn't go any hotter that 49'C with case at 33'C. Fan
RPM didn't vary at all. (actually it hovered around 1470rpm).

I find that my PC and the wifes PC will crash once we get around 52'C, but
none of my apps push the computer that hard. CPU is down to 38'C within 60
seconds of closing Hoyle.
 
The graph on the Asus site (don't recall the URL) showed that the QFan
didn't even kick in until the CPU hit 60'C! That's a bit much for me. I'd
rather it kick in a lot lower and ramp up more gradually.

Qfan set at 11/16 and using the FanMate at low the CPU is currently at 33'C
(case 32'C) at 1500rpm. CPU is 2.6Ghz (800) clocked just over 3.1Ghz.

... time let Hoyle idle for a while and see how hot it gets.
Click to expand...

The web page for Qfan is here:
http://www.asus.com/mb/qfan.htm

Paul
 
"Driekes" said:
http://nl.asus.com/products/mb/feature.htm

Should it be possible to enable Q-fan on the P4P800S SE? Or is it hardware
that is missing on that board?
Click to expand...

In the manual I have here, the Winbond 83627THF is there, and it
has three 5V analog type fan control channels. But if you look near
the CPU fan header, there is no big transistor or MOSFET to
control the fan, so the necessary control device is missing.
(Unless the transistors are hidden in a non-standard place...)

You could play with this program, but don't expect a miracle
if there are no transistors on the board to drive the fans :-)
The program might pretend to adjust the fans, but if the speed
doesn't change, then you will know the transistors are missing.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
http://www.almico.com/forumindex.php (chip list)

HTH,
Paul
 
I also was thinking about the hardware that is missing. To bad... About the
program, I installed it on my A7N8X-X board (2700+, stock cooler) and the
cpu temp was rising right away (to very temps above 56 degree c). I heard no
noise reduction so I removed it.

I don't understand why Asus doesn't support it to al boards. I saw in
AsusWorld magazine that only the newest boards (and fully equiped boards)
support Q-Fan2. Also the chassis fan is controlled. I bit late I think, all
the Compaq/hp machine's (even the Presarios) are supporting that for a year
or longer... And yes, there is an Asus or MSI (%$*$$$) board is installed.

Paul said:
"Driekes" said:
http://nl.asus.com/products/mb/feature.htm

Should it be possible to enable Q-fan on the P4P800S SE? Or is it hardware
that is missing on that board?
Click to expand...

In the manual I have here, the Winbond 83627THF is there, and it
has three 5V analog type fan control channels. But if you look near
the CPU fan header, there is no big transistor or MOSFET to
control the fan, so the necessary control device is missing.
(Unless the transistors are hidden in a non-standard place...)

You could play with this program, but don't expect a miracle
if there are no transistors on the board to drive the fans :-)
The program might pretend to adjust the fans, but if the speed
doesn't change, then you will know the transistors are missing.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
http://www.almico.com/forumindex.php (chip list)

HTH,
Paul
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Ken said:
Now I get the file via the "save target" function in my browser.
But that EXE file does not working!
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Did you see the note near the bottom of the speedfan.php page ?

"The latest version is SpeedFan 4.14

NOTE: Some download accelerators may fail downloading. Try
without them. NOTE: Norton Internet Security blocks the
REFERER field. Download won't work without the proper REFERER
field."

So, apparently the author knows about the problem.

When I tried, I got a 1,437,117 byte file for 4.14.

Here is a mirror site:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download337.html
The file from files1.majorgeeks.com was 1,437,117 bytes and
has the same checksum as the one from alnico.com .

HTH,
Paul
 
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