yet another XP->98SE ICS problem....

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I have run the Setup programs many times, run every option in the Help & Support troubleshooter, surfed the net, browsed the Newsgroup and still can't make this work. Hopefully a 'guru' will save me.

I have set up a simple home network. Host XP home, client 98SE. LAN via crossover cable through motherboard connections.

File sharing works fine. Each computer 'sees' the other in the 'view connections' and 'network neighborhood' groups, respectively. I can see files, use files, and move files.

As for ICS......

When I open Internet Explorer I get the 'cannot establish connection'. Does not work with 'www', 'http', or IP address.

When I 'ping' from the command prompt (as per one of Steve W's replies on other posts) I get a positive response from '192.168.0.1', but 'timed out' when I ping a site IP.

However, I did notice that if I launch Internet Explorer from the 98SE client when the dial-up connection on the XP host is inactive, the XP host does establish the dial-up connection to the ISP so I know the 2 are 'talking'.

I'm guessing that this is either a protocol or address issue, but I have tried every automatic setting, manual setting, NETBUI, TCP/IP, etc, etc I could get my hands on.

Anyone else have a clue? 'Cuz I sure don't.

Thanks in advance for any help.....................JB
 
"Joe said:
I have run the Setup programs many times, run every option in the Help & Support troubleshooter, surfed the net, browsed the Newsgroup and still can't make this work. Hopefully a 'guru' will save me.

I have set up a simple home network. Host XP home, client 98SE. LAN via crossover cable through motherboard connections.

File sharing works fine. Each computer 'sees' the other in the 'view connections' and 'network neighborhood' groups, respectively. I can see files, use files, and move files.

As for ICS......

When I open Internet Explorer I get the 'cannot establish connection'. Does not work with 'www', 'http', or IP address.

When I 'ping' from the command prompt (as per one of Steve W's replies on other posts) I get a positive response from '192.168.0.1', but 'timed out' when I ping a site IP.

However, I did notice that if I launch Internet Explorer from the 98SE client when the dial-up connection on the XP host is inactive, the XP host does establish the dial-up connection to the ISP so I know the 2 are 'talking'.

I'm guessing that this is either a protocol or address issue, but I have tried every automatic setting, manual setting, NETBUI, TCP/IP, etc, etc I could get my hands on.

Anyone else have a clue? 'Cuz I sure don't.

Thanks in advance for any help.....................JB
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TCP/IP is what the Internet uses, and it's the only protocol that you
need. Remove NetBEUI and IPX/SPX if they're present. Installing them
can't help with Internet access and could interfere with file and
printer sharing.

At this point, I'd forget about the Network Setup Wizard and start
over.

On the XP computer:

1. Right click the shared Internet connection, click Properties |
Advanced, and disable ICS.

2. If there's a network bridge, right click and delete it.

3. Right click the local area network connection, click Properties |
Advanced, and disable the Internet Connection Firewall.

4. Un-install all firewall programs (Norton Internet Security,
ZoneAlarm, Kerio, etc), and don't install them again until everything
is working. To protect your network while the firewall programs are
un-installed, enable the Internet Connection Firewall on your Internet
connection.

5. Reboot.

6. Right click the connection that you want to share, click Properties
| Advanced, and enable ICS.

On the 98SE computer:

1. Go to Control Panel | Network.

2. Double click "TCP/IP -> network card".

3. Configure it to obtain an IP address automatically.

4. Reboot.

5. Check the TCP/IP setup with Winipcfg. It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

6. Run the ping tests again.
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I did so want that to work. Nice and simple. Unfortunately, still no Internet sharing. Only change I notice.... the host now does not launch the dial-up connection when I open explorer on the client

Here's what I did
- removed all IPX/SPX , NETBEUI from the protocol list leaving only the TCP/IP choices
- followed instructions as per SW's pos
- file sharing still works. no error messages, but the ICS still does not happen
- ping finds 192.168.0.1, but returns 'request timed out' for other IP'

Any suggestions?
 
I had same symptoms on two xp machines, everything looked
fine and file sharing worked, but ICS would not. Turned
out to be spyware Running spy bot search and destroy on
both m/c sorted it out straight away. Could give it a
try at least - www.safer-networking.org
 
Well, I finally got it working. Just in case there are any other boneheads like me spending an inordinate amount of their free time trying to set up simple home LAN's just so the kids can play head-to-head games, here's my secret

I finally did a clean re-format, re-install on both computers. Yep. Wiped it all out. After that, the Network set-up was simple. 2 minutes. No Network Install Wizard on the client, just simple set-up steps as outlined by Steve W above

I figure that Windows had simply accumulated so much crap with routine use that there was a bug, flaw, or conflict that was 'un-troubleshootable'. I've already learned the hard way that Windows runs better if purged and reinstalled every 3-6 months, anyway. I guess this is another example

So.......... if you're desperate and searching this Newsgroup for the 'magic fix' to solve that Network install problem, before you waste hours mucking with DNS settings, IP addresses, pings, etc........ consider the possibility that you may be doomed to failure from the start, and just start from scratch. Good Luck.
 
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