Yamaha OPL3-SAx Sound System

[Connie Schuster]

Be forewarned, I'm a newbie to Newsgroups and have no clue as to which one
to post my question. It sounds like you all know what you're talking about,
so I figured I would post here. I just purchased a tower from an individual
and am having problems with no sound (sound was working fine at the time of
purchase). Under Device Manager, it says that it's causing a resource
conflict (Code 15.). But under the Resources tab (under Conflicting
Devices), it says that there are no conflicts. I have checked all of my
other devices and all are working properly (with no conflicts listed). I
have also run the Hardware Troubleshooter (with no luck),
downloading/upgrading the driver, and un-installing & reinstalling. What
can I do to make it work again? I have a Pentium II computer and am running
Windows 98se.

loneshewolf

 

[JAD]

do you know how to enter bios? hit DEL at startup in most cases. if not then remove the sound card and all releted entries in
sound and multimedia. reboot

if you can enter BIOS/cmos change 'PNP oS installed' to NO 'reset configuration data' to yes.

save all changes and exit...machine will reboot

 

[Connie Schuster]

Entered BIOS and PNP OS Installed was already set to 'NO'. I didn't see
'reset configuration data'. I appologize for my stupidity, I know how to
USE the computer and I'm now in the process of learning how to configure,
etc.

do you know how to enter bios? hit DEL at startup in most cases. if not

then remove the sound card and all releted entries in

sound and multimedia. reboot

if you can enter BIOS/cmos change 'PNP oS installed' to NO

'reset configuration data' to yes.

 

[JAD]

ok...change that PnP Os to yes...... some boards don't have that reset setting(actually its a bios thing) and see if that will sort
out the resource problem

 

[Connie Schuster]

Okay, now the device manager says that it's working properly...but still no
sound (only sound is when I'm connecting, the speakers are fine). Out of
curiosity, I went to Control Panel > Multimedia > Audio, in which it
displayed two devices: Audio for Yamaha OPL3-SAx Sound System and Audio for
opl3sa32.dll. Status for Yamaha says driver enabled & active, but the
status for opl3sa32.dll says: driver is enabled, but inactive due to an
unknown problem. How the heck do I find out what the unknown problem is???
I've already upgraded the driver.

ok...change that PnP Os to yes...... some boards don't have that reset

setting(actually its a bios thing) and see if that will sort

 

[JAD]

ahhh yes well heres the thing that sound card (a favorite of mine) has a TON of drivers out there, not all drivers are for the
chipset you have. It sounds as though you have a driver conflict. stop using the driver you currently are trying as an update.....I
believe a have a driver for that card. I can email it to you if its not too big. I will have to look. REMOVE all instances of driver
from add/remove.

Since the driver worked at one time, the 'INF' file should still be there. Try when updating, to select a specific place for the
driver location. Then select 'show all compatible hardware. chose the driver with the oldest date.

I'll go and check my CD's for that driver...yikes I gotta stop hoarding all this old stuff... ;^)

Question....does the description call it a OPL-SAX '3' or 2?

 

[Shep©]

Okay, now the device manager says that it's working properly...but still no
sound (only sound is when I'm connecting, the speakers are fine). Out of
curiosity, I went to Control Panel > Multimedia > Audio, in which it
displayed two devices: Audio for Yamaha OPL3-SAx Sound System and Audio for
opl3sa32.dll. Status for Yamaha says driver enabled & active, but the
status for opl3sa32.dll says: driver is enabled, but inactive due to an
unknown problem. How the heck do I find out what the unknown problem is???
I've already upgraded the driver.

Are the speakers you are connecting to,"Powered" e.g have their own
amplifier?
If not that may be the problem.
also click here,

http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/mmsystem.html
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/drivers.html

HTH

setting(actually its a bios thing) and see if that will sort

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[Connie Schuster]

I got the driver from the Yamaha website. I figured that way I would be
sure to get the right one. Initially I tried upgrading it, when that didn't
work I removed the old one and downloaded the new one (to My Documents) from
Yamaha. Is there somewhere else I should try putting the file?

The description of the device is: opl3sa32.dll (both the 3 and the 2). It
is also listed in Line Input Devices with the same status: driver is
enabled, but inactive due to an unknown problem.

I sure do appreciate the help you're giving me.

ahhh yes well heres the thing that sound card (a favorite of mine) has

a TON of drivers out there, not all drivers are for the

chipset you have. It sounds as though you have a driver conflict. stop

using the driver you currently are trying as an update.....I

believe a have a driver for that card. I can email it to you if its not

too big. I will have to look. REMOVE all instances of driver

from add/remove.

Since the driver worked at one time, the 'INF' file should still be there.

Try when updating, to select a specific place for the

 

[JAD]

The 32 in the file name refers to 32bit.....usually in the device manager the name under sounds and multimedia is
oPL-SaX-3(2)/OPL3(2)-SaX. The dll file you named is oPL3 is the other sound source OPL3 also? Can you look at the card itself and
catch the number on the largest chip?

You could go into device manager and write down the driver details along with their paths and delete them from the system along with
any INF files associated.....remember that the INF is a hidden system folder so the appropriate file settings have to be set
in -tools -option-view in order to see it.C:/windows/INF/other ..if you have an 'other' folder under the INF folder most likely
this is where windows is pulling the info from.

after this reboot and windows should not just load a driver it will ask...hmm forgot to ask, is the driver you downloaded a EXE
'self install' or is it a just a series of dll's and vxd's etc? If it is the later, point to the my doc folder where you put the
files. if its an exe cancel the install wizard and get to desktop, run the exe, reboot..

 

[Connie Schuster]

By driver details and paths, I'm assuming you mean the driver files (there
are 7 listed under driver details). In deleting them and the INF files (and
removing the driver from the device manager), would that also remove the
opl3sa32.dll device in multimedia, or do I remove that separately? I
haven't opened the system yet, but I could if you need me to check on the
number on the chip. And, yes, the driver I downloaded is an EXE file.

The 32 in the file name refers to 32bit.....usually in the device manager

the name under sounds and multimedia is

oPL-SaX-3(2)/OPL3(2)-SaX. The dll file you named is oPL3 is the other

sound source OPL3 also? Can you look at the card itself and

catch the number on the largest chip?

You could go into device manager and write down the driver details along

with their paths and delete them from the system along with

any INF files associated.....remember that the INF is a hidden system

folder so the appropriate file settings have to be set

in -tools -option-view in order to see it.C:/windows/INF/other ..if

you have an 'other' folder under the INF folder most likely

this is where windows is pulling the info from.

after this reboot and windows should not just load a driver it will

ask...hmm forgot to ask, is the driver you downloaded a EXE

'self install' or is it a just a series of dll's and vxd's etc? If it is

the later, point to the my doc folder where you put the

 

[Connie Schuster]

Also forgot to ask...after deleting all that, will it automatically set the
resources when I re-install? Or should I write those numbers down too?

The 32 in the file name refers to 32bit.....usually in the device manager

the name under sounds and multimedia is

oPL-SaX-3(2)/OPL3(2)-SaX. The dll file you named is oPL3 is the other

sound source OPL3 also? Can you look at the card itself and

catch the number on the largest chip?

You could go into device manager and write down the driver details along

with their paths and delete them from the system along with

any INF files associated.....remember that the INF is a hidden system

folder so the appropriate file settings have to be set

in -tools -option-view in order to see it.C:/windows/INF/other ..if

you have an 'other' folder under the INF folder most likely

this is where windows is pulling the info from.

after this reboot and windows should not just load a driver it will

ask...hmm forgot to ask, is the driver you downloaded a EXE

'self install' or is it a just a series of dll's and vxd's etc? If it is

the later, point to the my doc folder where you put the

 

[Connie Schuster]

Yes, I have "powered" speakers and they're working fine. I checked out the
web pages that you suggested (saved them)...very informative...sounds scary.
Can't help wondering what I'll do to screw it up. First of all, I
don't have the supply drivers disk, I only have the exe file that I
downloaded from Yamaha. And, do I back up the registry using the Wrp.zip
file that is on the website or manually backup using my zip drive?
Uhhh...since I'm a newbie to this technical 'stuff', I'm going to try JAD's
suggestion first. My way of 'learning' is with step-by-step, blow-by-blow
instructions and minor experimentations. I feel safer that way, since I
don't want to pull a major screw up.

 

[Connie Schuster]

Uhhh, no INF file under C:\Windows, so I ran *.inf under find files and it
came back with a list of 210! Also, totally off the driver subject, but can
the C:\Windows\Temp file be emptied? I have 15.2mb of files in there. I
usually go through internet options to delete the temp files and cookies.

The 32 in the file name refers to 32bit.....usually in the device manager

the name under sounds and multimedia is

oPL-SaX-3(2)/OPL3(2)-SaX. The dll file you named is oPL3 is the other

sound source OPL3 also? Can you look at the card itself and

catch the number on the largest chip?

You could go into device manager and write down the driver details along

with their paths and delete them from the system along with

any INF files associated.....remember that the INF is a hidden system

folder so the appropriate file settings have to be set

in -tools -option-view in order to see it.C:/windows/INF/other ..if

you have an 'other' folder under the INF folder most likely

this is where windows is pulling the info from.

after this reboot and windows should not just load a driver it will

ask...hmm forgot to ask, is the driver you downloaded a EXE

'self install' or is it a just a series of dll's and vxd's etc? If it is

the later, point to the my doc folder where you put the

 

[Shep©]

Yes, I have "powered" speakers and they're working fine. I checked out the
web pages that you suggested (saved them)...very informative...sounds scary.
Can't help wondering what I'll do to screw it up. First of all, I
don't have the supply drivers disk, I only have the exe file that I
downloaded from Yamaha. And, do I back up the registry using the Wrp.zip
file that is on the website or manually backup using my zip drive?
Uhhh...since I'm a newbie to this technical 'stuff', I'm going to try JAD's
suggestion first. My way of 'learning' is with step-by-step, blow-by-blow
instructions and minor experimentations. I feel safer that way, since I
don't want to pull a major screw up.

Win98 make 5 registry backups you can use to reset the system.
You can make changes to get things right and if you think you have
screwed up you can re-boot and press the F8 key on bootup to get to
the Dos startup menu and choose Command Prompt only and type
scanreg/restore to access them.Have a practice.
I suspect that you either have duplicate/bogus sound card entries that
can only be seen in Safemode(use F8 Dos startup menu for that as well)
and remove ALL entries under the sound video games section and re-boot
and then re-check Control Panel/Multimedia and mixer settings.






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[Shep©]

Win98 make 5 registry backups you can use to reset the system.
You can make changes to get things right and if you think you have
screwed up you can re-boot and press the F8 key on bootup to get to
the Dos startup menu and choose Command Prompt only and type
scanreg/restore to access them.Have a practice.
I suspect that you either have duplicate/bogus sound card entries that
can only be seen in Safemode(use F8 Dos startup menu for that as well)
and remove ALL entries under the sound video games section and re-boot
and then re-check Control Panel/Multimedia and mixer settings.

PS to find out the actual sound card download Aida32,
http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32
or Belarc Advisor,
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html



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[Connie Schuster]

Didn't work...keeps asking for disk 2 (even with the install wizard).

The 32 in the file name refers to 32bit.....usually in the device manager

the name under sounds and multimedia is

oPL-SaX-3(2)/OPL3(2)-SaX. The dll file you named is oPL3 is the other

sound source OPL3 also? Can you look at the card itself and

catch the number on the largest chip?

You could go into device manager and write down the driver details along

with their paths and delete them from the system along with

any INF files associated.....remember that the INF is a hidden system

folder so the appropriate file settings have to be set

in -tools -option-view in order to see it.C:/windows/INF/other ..if

you have an 'other' folder under the INF folder most likely

this is where windows is pulling the info from.

after this reboot and windows should not just load a driver it will

ask...hmm forgot to ask, is the driver you downloaded a EXE

'self install' or is it a just a series of dll's and vxd's etc? If it is

the later, point to the my doc folder where you put the

 

[JAD]

ok then that driver is either incomplete or maybe a bad download. What happens if you just point back to the original folder when
it asked for disk 2?

when you download the file and run the exe does it go into an install or does it expand compressed files to a destination/// like
c:/windows/temp, which BTW can be deleted. My procedure is to empty my recycle bin then delete the contents of windows/temp and
leave it sit for a few days. If no weird startup problems occur and all programs are running, then empty the bin.

This is so hard to do over the phone let alone days over a newsgroup.If you haven't tried a restore point or registry repair, then
do so, it may just get you out of a jam.

We seem to be skipping around too much

1. try restore/registry repair

2. if that doesn't work remove ALL 'opl' from the system, add/remove programs and search 'opl' from start-search-files and folders,
any that are easily distinguished as OPLsax sound delete them. also device manager remove opL anything, make sure you have NO
'other device' listed in device manager.

3 I am sending you the driver: it will execute extraction to a floppy, so have a blank ready. Disk 1of 1

4 reboot when asked for the driver, point to the floppy


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